Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 LCL, Until you get your implants out, you've got an uphill battle . . . That sugar craving - and I'm guessing salt brings on refined grain - comes from the little fungal organisms screaming "feed me, feed me, feed me" . . . It takes about three weeks to overcome the cravings. . . Once the fungal organisms are under control, the gut needs to be repopulated with beneficial organism . . .like Primal Defense. Rogene Diet Hi Rogene ... I'll just have to try harder ... I do eat many of those things .... probably not enough. The hard part is ,,,, when I am craving salt or sugar .... I want junk .... that food just doesn't suit me. I can go so well for 5 days .... and then need junk ... I eat 80 percent on the good side. If I slip up, tomorrow's another day ... I just back on again ... thru this cleanse though, I did pretty well. LCL ------------ -- Original message ------------ -- From: Rogene S <saxony01 (DOT) com> LCL, Almost anything you can eat raw, you can eat lightly steamed . . . beets, aspargus, spinach, beet greens, carrots, squash, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, green beans, onions, . . . In fact, the only vegetables I can think of I wouldn't eat steamed is lettuce and avacados! Once you taste steamed veggies, with all their flavor, you'll never want to boil a veggie again! . . . You can combine so many things to make wonderful salads . . . mandrin oranges, rasins, apples, nuts (almonds, walnuts, cashews, pecans, pine nuts), grapes, berries, cheese, bell pepper, onion, carrots, cauliflower, broccoli, spinach, rice noodles. You can add meats like chicken and salmon. What's neat is that you can toss almost anything together, and with a little dressing come up with a great meal. Toss some Kefir grains in too! . . . or add yogurt to the dressing. Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 > > > Hi, > > Can anyone recommend a diet or foods which would > prevent cancer. Are there any sepcific vegetables or > foods which are better than others. Maybe Debby could > could chime in here. She had been very helpful to > others with dietary needs. ==>This diet, plus supplements, prevents cancer. All of the foods recommended work together with the supplements to build up the immune system. Cancer is caused by toxins and a depressed immune system. A healthy immune system will kill cells which harbour cancer. Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 All the cruciferous vegetables (lettuce, cabbage, broccoli, caulifauer, brussel sprouts, etc.) are very good. Pau d'arco tea has been touted as a cancer-curing agent. Zack On Sun, 22 Apr 2007, natrualhealin wrote: > > Hi, > > Can anyone recommend a diet or foods which would > prevent cancer. Are there any sepcific vegetables or > foods which are better than others. Maybe Debby could > could chime in here. She had been very helpful to > others with dietary needs. > > I have read that maybe broccoli n tomatoes are > beneficial. > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. In helping > others the rewards go on forever! > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 If its going in your body- count it. 3 T per day is what I aim for 4 would be a little much, but thats just MHO. Yes I count the oil I fry my lumpia in and spread on my toast, etc. zoe > Different topic so I can't combine my post or I would. > I've read that one should take 3 or 4 tbls a day to lose weight. I > haven't bought the book I'm ashamed to say, but I will. > In the mean time, I was wondering if part of that amount could be in > cooking? > I use oil to season with, well I use to use margarine but I stopped > that. > I followed someone's link to Brainy's weightloss an got that > information. > My main goal when I started VCO was to get some energy and get my > cholestrol down. Losing weight is just like the icing on the cake. > Thanks, > Barbara > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Thank you zoe for your reply. I'm new to this an I was hoping that what I used in cooking counted. Eating 3 or 4 tablespoons an then cooking with it seemed excessive to me. Barbara > > If its going in your body- count it. 3 T per day is what I aim for 4 would be a little much, but thats > just MHO. Yes I count the oil I fry my lumpia in and spread on my toast, etc. > zoe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Dear Tom My PA is almost completely in remission by eliminating wheat from my diet. In addition to that, I try to eat lots of celery, cucumbers and carrots--as they are good for skin disorders. I used to juice them, but now just try to consume them raw. Ks Di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Tom, I did a serious elimination diet beginning with a 3 day fast to see if anything I was eating triggered my PA. It took months. For me, there is no food trigger at all. Eliminating foods did not help me at all and adding them back did not exacerbate my PA at all. If, however, you have an allergy or sensitivity to some food, then eliminating it should help any auto-immune disease. That being said, eating as healthy a diet as possible is good for your overall health. Most of the supplements touted for arthritis - those that have been legitimized by clinical trials, at least - are helpful for osteoarthritis but not for inflammatory arthritis like PA and RA. Things that supposedly boost your immune system are counterproductive, since our problem is an over- (not under-) active immune system. Before jumping on every " good food - bad food " bandwagon, I suggest you the elimination route. There's no point giving up something you like if it doesn't matter either way. There are NO (as in ZERO) supplements or substances that I know of that have been *proven* in controlled studies to cure or even help PA. I've searched high and low for such and they just don't exist. Realize that this is a flare and remit disease, so just because someone " feels better " doesn't prove that what they just ate or didn't eat made the difference. Sometimes you just get better without doing anything. Only a controlled study can tell for sure that something is making a statistically-significant difference. best regards, sherry z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Not sure if related but every time I diet (calorie restriction) my PA is somewhat better. It could just be coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Dear Tom, As a nutrition consultant and PA patient I tried to give you a nutritional support protocol. Lifestyle recommendations: 1-Regular exercise as well as physical therapy including heat, cold, massage 2-Take hot baths with Epsom salts and plain MSM powder 3-Stool analysis recommended for food allergy testing,ask your MD if he /she order it for you. Dietary recommendations: 1-Drink at lease eight glasses off purified water daily 2-Avoid soda drinks 3-Avoid fumaric acid food such as peanut, mustered, cinnamon, all grapes wines, black pepper 4-Avoid all sugars. Replace sugar with the Stevia 5-Avoid white flour and all refined carbohydrates 6 Avoid safflower, corn, sunflower and soya bean oils, which aggravate inflammation.Instead favor flax oil , fish oils, fresh fish, raw nuts and seeds 7-Eat a paleolithic diet low in grains and allergenic foods such as dairy products and citrus 8-Avoid margarine, hydrogenated vegetable oils and fried foods 9-Avoid damaged fats, including junk foods 10-Carry small amounts of nuts and seeds with you throughout the day to prevent missing meals or snacks 11-Eat fresh,eat organic, seasonal fruits and vegetables. Eat organic wholefoods . Supplement recommendations: In addition to the core nutrient program recommended by your health care professional and /or from the results of your most recent is health metabolic profile: 1-MSM powder 2T per day 2-A good quality natural antinflammatory caps, which you can find it in health food store. Or Internet . Usually is the combination of: Enzymes: Protease, trypsin ,serrazimes and chumotrypsin. Turmeric(curcuma longa)(root) Boswellia Ginger Quercetin Rutin Rosemary Resveratrol 4 a day on empty stomach 3-GLA(Gamma-Linoleic Acid) 240 mg 3 a day with meal 4-B vitamin with food 5-Zinc For pain you can choose a soothing cream specially modified for arthritis If you're not seeing any professional health care and hopefully your living in a city with good health food store(like whole foods) usually they have nutritionist that can recommend you good quality products or search net for more information about diets and supplements.for example www.Dr Murray.com There is no cure for PA ,but by fallowing this kind of protocol you may get some help for P & A both. I personally fallow alternative ways of treatment, fortunately my rheumy beliefs in alternative medicine and he is monitoring my condition carefully and he respects my choice. This way is very expensive, because no insurance covers supplements and alternative labs. I wish you the very best of heath, Peace soudi Certified Holistic Nutrition Consultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 this is really catching on. i have alot of guests, we call out customers guests, that stay away from most wheat. and they do feel better. we cant always try to understand it. just listen to what our bodies are saying........casey Costello <costello@...> wrote: Dear Tom My PA is almost completely in remission by eliminating wheat from my diet. In addition to that, I try to eat lots of celery, cucumbers and carrots--as they are good for skin disorders. I used to juice them, but now just try to consume them raw. Ks Di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Thank you for your reply to Tom about diet, Soudi. I like the measured recommendations you put forth: there is balance, intelligence and caring in your posting. Peace be with you. Brent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 I am not sure about foods, but spending time in the sun will increase it. > > How on this diet can you increase vitamin d without > taking supplements? > > Vitamin D rich foods are ususally i think in dairy and > morning cereals. > > How can i get more vitamin d from foods? > > e > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. > http://sims./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 > I am not sure about foods, but spending time in the > sun will > increase it. * & * & * Thank you. I am thinking that on the east coast the fall and winter are coming and the days will be shorter. So i will soak up the sun as I have it now. justine ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. http://autos./index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 , I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think he has malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the soys and he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot take him off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than 'regular " milk. Hanagan <hanagan_8@hotmai l.com> To Sent by: < @... childrensapraxian m> et@... cc m Subject [ ] diet 09/21/2007 01:13 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions.....what do I do with a very picky eater????? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Have you tried almond milk? it is delicious! Even rice milk taste pretty good, but it isn't as nutritious. Re: [ ] diet , I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think he has malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the soys and he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot take him off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than 'regular " milk. Hanagan <hanagan_8@hotmai l.com> To Sent by: < @groups. co childrensapraxian m> etgroups (DOT) co cc m Subject [childrensapraxiane t] diet 09/21/2007 01:13 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian etgroups (DOT) co m We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions. ....what do I do with a very picky eater????? Thanks ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. http://gethalo3gear .com?ocid= SeptemberWLHalo3 _WLHMTxt_ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 My son smells everything! So, if Almond Milk smells different than his current milk, he is going to refuse. It is not a matter of how things taste. My son has alot of food aversions of which I'm trying desparately to cure. It is extremely difficult for him to try any new foods. He acts like he's in pain while tasting. (And for all I know, he may very well be). I'm scheduled to attend a Food Seminar for Children such as mine in a couple of weeks. Hopefully, they'll enlighten me with what to do. The drs don't care about this issue either. My son is in the high percentile range for height and right in the middle for weight. He rarely if ever gets sick and that's all they care about. The rest is " our " issue. Molly <mau_li@... > To Sent by: childrensapraxian cc et@... m Subject Re: [ ] diet 09/21/2007 10:14 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m Have you tried almond milk? it is delicious! Even rice milk taste pretty good, but it isn't as nutritious. Re: [ ] diet , I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think he has malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the soys and he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot take him off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than 'regular " milk. Hanagan <hanagan_8@hotmai l.com> To Sent by: < @groups. co childrensapraxian m> etgroups (DOT) co cc m Subject [childrensapraxiane t] diet 09/21/2007 01:13 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian etgroups (DOT) co m We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions. ....what do I do with a very picky eater????? Thanks ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. http://gethalo3gear .com?ocid= SeptemberWLHalo3 _WLHMTxt_ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 1/2 gallon of anything is not good. My kids ate 3 or 4 things before we wenht GFCF. We only had one bad day. Self-limiting foods by the kid is a sign of something going wrong, at least that is what we found with our kids. Just a thought. Honestly, if you took him off milk and replaced it with water would he drink that until you addressed the rest of diet? Does he have to have milk? myra.bauza@... wrote: > > , > I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think > he has > malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply > can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the > soys and > he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot > take him > off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than > 'regular " milk. > > > > Hanagan > <hanagan_8@hotmai > l.com> To > Sent by: < @... > <mailto: %40groups.co> > childrensapraxian m> > et@... <mailto:et%40groups.co> cc > m > Subject > [ ] diet > 09/21/2007 01:13 > AM > > > Please respond to > childrensapraxian > et@... <mailto:et%40groups.co> > m > > > > > > > We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had > remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem > with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that > we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about > three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the > rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of > vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions.....what do I > do with a very picky eater????? > > Thanks > > > __________________________________________________________ > Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our > way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. > http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 > <http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 , Try to wein him off slowly and do try the Almond milk for most of the kids quite enjoy it. Actually, it is the only other product that I can stand. Kids who eat selectively like this tend to REALLY respond to the diet so it just might be the ticket for your boy. If you don't buy the 'bad food' then he will eventually eat the good food. Believe me, he won't let himself starve! I am sure that Mark went through a really nasty withdrawal period when we drastically changed his diet. It lasted for about a week and then everything was fine. Since Mark is older, he was able to understand that changing his diet was necessary to reducing his dyspraxia. Believe me, Mark and dyspraxia are bitter enemies! He hates it and will do ANYTHING to rid himself of it. Janice [sPAM] Re: [ ] diet , I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think he has malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the soys and he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot take him off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than 'regular " milk. Hanagan <hanagan_8@hotmai l.com> To Sent by: < @... childrensapraxian m> et@... cc m Subject [ ] diet 09/21/2007 01:13 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions.....what do I do with a very picky eater????? Thanks __________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 If you want to take your son off of dairy and he drinks that much. I would start weaning him down off of it. 1 gallon every other day is really too much. It is probably why he only eats those things. By luck my daughter stopped drinking milk when she was 17 mos because she gave up the bottle why on vacation. She was a very picky eater and her appetite grew overnight. I kept with keeping her off milk and she began to eat. I am sure you will see the same results. Just do it slowly and stick with it.... myra.bauza@... wrote: , I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think he has malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the soys and he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot take him off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than 'regular " milk. Hanagan <hanagan_8@hotmai l.com> To Sent by: < @... childrensapraxian m> et@... cc m Subject [ ] diet 09/21/2007 01:13 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions.....what do I do with a very picky eater????? Thanks __________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 It sounds like your son has sensory integration issues going on with food. Some OTs know how to treat this if you call around and ask. Also, picky eaters often become less picky once the one food they are obsessing over is removed from the diet. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but kids often obsess over foods that are the most harmful for them. Once you remove that food, other problems are often resolved. It's just the transition that can be a monster! My 5 year old was a milk guzzler and a picky eater. It took him over a month, but he will now drink almond milk and enjoys it, although he doesn't drink it often. At first he would have nothing to do with any alternative milks because he still remembered what the real stuff tasted like and he still craved it. Now he doesn't miss dairy at all and is a much less picky eater. This type of transition is very typical for kids who are milk lovers. Sometimes you just have to be creative and hang tough. Kim with 4 cuties myra.bauza@... wrote: My son smells everything! So, if Almond Milk smells different than his current milk, he is going to refuse. It is not a matter of how things taste. My son has alot of food aversions of which I'm trying desparately to cure. It is extremely difficult for him to try any new foods. He acts like he's in pain while tasting. (And for all I know, he may very well be). I'm scheduled to attend a Food Seminar for Children such as mine in a couple of weeks. Hopefully, they'll enlighten me with what to do. The drs don't care about this issue either. My son is in the high percentile range for height and right in the middle for weight. He rarely if ever gets sick and that's all they care about. The rest is " our " issue. Molly <mau_li@... > To Sent by: childrensapraxian cc et@... m Subject Re: [ ] diet 09/21/2007 10:14 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m Have you tried almond milk? it is delicious! Even rice milk taste pretty good, but it isn't as nutritious. Re: [ ] diet , I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think he has malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the soys and he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot take him off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than 'regular " milk. Hanagan <hanagan_8@hotmai l.com> To Sent by: < @groups. co childrensapraxian m> etgroups (DOT) co cc m Subject [childrensapraxiane t] diet 09/21/2007 01:13 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian etgroups (DOT) co m We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions. ....what do I do with a very picky eater????? Thanks ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. http://gethalo3gear .com?ocid= SeptemberWLHalo3 _WLHMTxt_ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Thanks for th advice. If it were simply up to me.....I would do this in a heartbeat..but have a husband who gives into and a MIL who also gives into him. I'm fighting a losing battle on all fronts. And they just don't understand how harmful the milk can potentially be for him. Nothing is easy. I am going to try the enzymes another lister Tracey tried and succeeded with... Kim <kimonines (DOT) com> To Sent by: childrensapraxian cc et@... m Subject Re: [ ] diet 09/21/2007 01:12 PM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m It sounds like your son has sensory integration issues going on with food. Some OTs know how to treat this if you call around and ask. Also, picky eaters often become less picky once the one food they are obsessing over is removed from the diet. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but kids often obsess over foods that are the most harmful for them. Once you remove that food, other problems are often resolved. It's just the transition that can be a monster! My 5 year old was a milk guzzler and a picky eater. It took him over a month, but he will now drink almond milk and enjoys it, although he doesn't drink it often. At first he would have nothing to do with any alternative milks because he still remembered what the real stuff tasted like and he still craved it. Now he doesn't miss dairy at all and is a much less picky eater. This type of transition is very typical for kids who are milk lovers. Sometimes you just have to be creative and hang tough. Kim with 4 cuties myra.bauza@... wrote: My son smells everything! So, if Almond Milk smells different than his current milk, he is going to refuse. It is not a matter of how things taste. My son has alot of food aversions of which I'm trying desparately to cure. It is extremely difficult for him to try any new foods. He acts like he's in pain while tasting. (And for all I know, he may very well be). I'm scheduled to attend a Food Seminar for Children such as mine in a couple of weeks. Hopefully, they'll enlighten me with what to do. The drs don't care about this issue either. My son is in the high percentile range for height and right in the middle for weight. He rarely if ever gets sick and that's all they care about. The rest is " our " issue. Molly <mau_li@... > To Sent by: childrensapraxian cc et@... m Subject Re: [ ] diet 09/21/2007 10:14 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m Have you tried almond milk? it is delicious! Even rice milk taste pretty good, but it isn't as nutritious. Re: [ ] diet , I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think he has malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the soys and he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot take him off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than 'regular " milk. Hanagan <hanagan_8@hotmai l.com> To Sent by: < @groups. co childrensapraxian m> etgroups (DOT) co cc m Subject [childrensapraxiane t] diet 09/21/2007 01:13 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian etgroups (DOT) co m We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions. ....what do I do with a very picky eater????? Thanks ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. http://gethalo3gear .com?ocid= SeptemberWLHalo3 _WLHMTxt_ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Yes, he insists on MILK. He does drink water & juice on occasion (pretty much when we are at a restaurant). I'm with you..I know that this amount of milk is not good. I try to minimize it if I'm around him most of the time but I do have a husband and a MIL who give into his every whim. They don't understand how MILK (casein) can potentially be harming him or at least not making him operate at his fullest potential. Liz <lizlaw@optonline .net> To Sent by: childrensapraxian cc et@... m Subject Re: [ ] diet 09/21/2007 10:41 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m 1/2 gallon of anything is not good. My kids ate 3 or 4 things before we wenht GFCF. We only had one bad day. Self-limiting foods by the kid is a sign of something going wrong, at least that is what we found with our kids. Just a thought. Honestly, if you took him off milk and replaced it with water would he drink that until you addressed the rest of diet? Does he have to have milk? myra.bauza@... wrote: > > , > I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think > he has > malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply > can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the > soys and > he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot > take him > off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than > 'regular " milk. > > > > Hanagan > <hanagan_8@hotmai > l.com> To > Sent by: < @... > <mailto: %40groups.co> > childrensapraxian m> > et@... <mailto:et%40groups.co> cc > m > Subject > [ ] diet > 09/21/2007 01:13 > AM > > > Please respond to > childrensapraxian > et@... <mailto:et%40groups.co> > m > > > > > > > We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had > remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem > with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that > we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about > three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the > rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of > vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions.....what do I > do with a very picky eater????? > > Thanks > > > __________________________________________________________ > Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our > way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. > http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 > <http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Thanks. That's my goal. I have been slowly minimizing his intake. Just the other morning he threw a crying fit because he wanted a second helping of milk before school and I refused! He's a total milk junkie! Russo <nicholas1227@yah oo.com> To Sent by: childrensapraxian cc et@... m Subject Re: [ ] diet 09/21/2007 12:54 PM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m If you want to take your son off of dairy and he drinks that much. I would start weaning him down off of it. 1 gallon every other day is really too much. It is probably why he only eats those things. By luck my daughter stopped drinking milk when she was 17 mos because she gave up the bottle why on vacation. She was a very picky eater and her appetite grew overnight. I kept with keeping her off milk and she began to eat. I am sure you will see the same results. Just do it slowly and stick with it.... myra.bauza@... wrote: , I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think he has malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the soys and he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot take him off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than 'regular " milk. Hanagan <hanagan_8@hotmai l.com> To Sent by: < @... childrensapraxian m> et@... cc m Subject [ ] diet 09/21/2007 01:13 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions.....what do I do with a very picky eater????? Thanks __________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Thanks, Janice. I do understand it. " Janice " <jscott@interbaun .com> To Sent by: < @... childrensapraxian m> et@... cc m Subject Re: [ ] diet 09/21/2007 03:14 PM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m Here's the thing about milk.... they call it the casio-morphine effect (spelling?) or if gluten is your problem, the gluta-morphine effect. Some call it the opoid effect. These substances are very close in make-up to morphine. I think it is something like one or two molecules away.... very similiar at least. For our kids who are diet responders, we might as well be loading them up on morphine as it produces the same results. This includes the ADDICTION aspect. Thus, your child wants milk because it takes him away to 'LA-LA land' and makes him feel good. Thus, when he doesn't get it, he does feel some measure of withdrawal. Withdrawal can be a little nasty to go through (nothing like the real morphine however) but once it is done, the child really is happier and healthier and more able-bodied. Now we all have 'feel-good' foods that we enjoy. For me, it is macaroni and cheese. Gee, guess I like casien and gluten too! But, it simply does not affect me to such an extent neurologically. For my son, casien messes with his senses to the level of about 5,000 times what it does for me. No wonder he never developed properly; the child was chronicly stoned. How on earth can a person develop neurologically if they never have their true, god-given wits about them? They are simply walking around in a semi-drug induced haze. Is this forever? I have heard stories where the diet can be eliminated at some point but we certainly are not there yet. My child can tolerate quite a bit of gluten along with high quality enzymes without issue. But if I forget to give him enzymes for a few days, he begins to regress once more. He cannot tolerate milk even with enzymes. So.... every child is indeed individual and some are able to eventually leave the diet once the gut is healed and the yeast issues are resolved and just use dietary enzymes to control the sensitivity in the stomach. But if your child was a diabetic, you wouldn't give them just a little sugar; you would completely remove it from their choices of foods. It is the same way for us and casien. Janice [sPAM] Re: [ ] diet If you want to take your son off of dairy and he drinks that much. I would start weaning him down off of it. 1 gallon every other day is really too much. It is probably why he only eats those things. By luck my daughter stopped drinking milk when she was 17 mos because she gave up the bottle why on vacation. She was a very picky eater and her appetite grew overnight. I kept with keeping her off milk and she began to eat. I am sure you will see the same results. Just do it slowly and stick with it.... myra.bauza@... wrote: , I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think he has malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the soys and he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot take him off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than 'regular " milk. Hanagan <hanagan_8@hotmai l.com> To Sent by: < @... childrensapraxian m> et@... cc m Subject [ ] diet 09/21/2007 01:13 AM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My problem with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize that we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so afraid of vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions.....what do I do with a very picky eater????? Thanks __________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. Itâ?Ts our way of saying thanks for using Windows Liveâ " ¢. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Good Mommy. As for husband and MIL you have to give it to them straight. In his little body from what your are seeing milk may very well be a street drug for him. The only way to know one way or the other is elimination and observation. You simply cannot do that with people who love him serving as his dealer. myra.bauza@... wrote: > > Yes, he insists on MILK. He does drink water & juice on occasion (pretty > much when we are at a restaurant). I'm with you..I know that this > amount of > milk is not good. I try to minimize it if I'm around him most of the time > but I do have a husband and a MIL who give into his every whim. They > don't > understand how MILK (casein) can potentially be harming him or at > least not > making him operate at his fullest potential. > > > > Liz > <lizlaw@optonline > .net> To > Sent by: > <mailto: %40> > childrensapraxian cc > et@... <mailto:et%40groups.co> > m Subject > Re: [ ] diet > > 09/21/2007 10:41 > AM > > > Please respond to > childrensapraxian > et@... <mailto:et%40groups.co> > m > > > > > > > 1/2 gallon of anything is not good. My kids ate 3 or 4 things before we > wenht GFCF. We only had one bad day. Self-limiting foods by the kid is a > sign of something going wrong, at least that is what we found with our > kids. Just a thought. > > Honestly, if you took him off milk and replaced it with water would he > drink that until you addressed the rest of diet? Does he have to have > milk? > > myra.bauza@... <mailto:myra.bauza%40chase.com> wrote: > > > > > , > > I'm with you. I would love to take my son off of dairy since I think > > he has > > malabsorption issues.(not as bad as when he was younger) but I simply > > can't. My son drinks 1 gallon every other day...and I've tried the > > soys and > > he will not have them. My son only eats about 5 things so I cannot > > take him > > off it . I do buy Lactaid and that seems to be less troublesome than > > 'regular " milk. > > > > > > > > Hanagan > > <hanagan_8@hotmai > > l.com> To > > Sent by: < @... > <mailto: %40groups.co> > > <mailto: %40groups.co> > > childrensapraxian m> > > et@... <mailto:et%40groups.co> > <mailto:et%40groups.co> cc > > m > > Subject > > [ ] diet > > 09/21/2007 01:13 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > childrensapraxian > > et@... <mailto:et%40groups.co> > <mailto:et%40groups.co> > > m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We began the fish oil supplements about one month ago, and we've had > > remarkable results! Now, I'd like to address the diet issues. My > problem > > with this is that my 2.5 year old id INCREDIBLY picky! I now realize > that > > we are also completely dependent on dairy. I took dairy away for about > > three days (he seemed to have a better mood), but he wouldn't drink the > > rice or soy milk (enriched with vitamin d and calcium). I'm so > afraid of > > vitamin deficiencies that I chickened out. Any suggestions.....what > do I > > do with a very picky eater????? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s > our > > way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. > > http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 > <http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2> > > <http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 > <http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2>> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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