Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Kinga, I also think that diet is important, but which diet is the question. I think it is very individual and even changes as time goes on. I have read enough stuff over the years that I can remember a study or proclamation that any food I'm about to eat is bad for me. Then I remember the words of one of my teachers that the attitude with which we eat our food is as important as the food that we eat. We can eat the healthiest food with a poisonous attitude and we will not thrive. I think for us with chronic illnesses it is important to be mindful of what we eat, choose unadulterated foods, watch how we react...and eat in a spirit of gratitude. Take care, Ute On 3/13/2011 2:26 PM, Kinga wrote: > > Hello all, > > I was curious how many of you find your recovery is(was) dependent on > dietary restrictions. I have been to a naturopath who put me on a > " eubiotic " diet, which means no sugar , no grains other than rice and > quinoa or rye, no yeast (sourdough is OK), above ground veggies only > and no fruit (due to sugar). > > Dr. Mercola also emphasises cutting out sugar in his regimen to RA > patients. > Although I am beginning to understand I will never be able to eat like > i did before, I am wondering how restricted the diet needs to be on AP? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Hi Kinga I wish I had known about this dietary stuff when I went on ap. I think with taking antibiotics it's even more important to watch sugar intake. Keep sweet consumption very low since it feeds the pathogens. This book has good advice on diet and ap: Rheumatoid Arthritis: The Infection Connection by Poehlmann She put her RA into remision using ap - 100 mg MWF and diet. I think diet and detox are crticial to ap's success. I went into remission initally on just ap but needed 200 mg daily to do so and had to stay at that dose to remain in remission. Eventually that high dose made me very ill so I had to go off and RA came roaring back. But when I implemented strict diet and detox measures I started to feel much better. Femented foods and probiotics are also very important. Hello all, I was curious how many of you find your recovery is(was) dependent on dietary restrictions. I have been to a naturopath who put me on a " eubiotic " diet, which means no sugar , no grains other than rice and quinoa or rye, no yeast (sourdough is OK), above ground veggies only and no fruit (due to sugar). Dr. Mercola also emphasises cutting out sugar in his regimen to RA patients. Although I am beginning to understand I will never be able to eat like i did before, I am wondering how restricted the diet needs to be on AP? Kinga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Hi everyone, I found it to be very important, to achieving success with AP, that I follow a very strict diet. I ate basically protein, above the ground veggies, no sugar, no fruit, no dairy, and I I juiced a lot of veggies. I was able to achieve remission in 18 months. I was a patient of Dr. Mercolas at the time. I agree with all the other comments that your diet needs to be tailored to meet the needs of your own body. We are all so different and have unique needs. This time around, I am basically following the same diet. Ocassionally, I will allow myself to have a potato here and there and I have decided to add some carrots to my veggie juice. I've also decided to have small amounts of brown rice on the occassional basis. I think it's so important to eat your food with a joyful attitude and if that means adding some potatoes, carrots, and brown rice here and there then so be it. I was so frustrated when I had to limit my diet when I first got sick, and I believe my frustration negatively impacted my health. So, when I cheat on the diet here and there, I will try not to be so hard on myself. Just my 2 cents. Suzanne > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Dearest Zannie. Your two cents worth of advise is worth a million bucks to all the frustrated people who jump from one diet to another. Best to listen to your own body and be moderate. You know what you can or can't eat. Our bodies have been talking to us for years. In fact all of my life at least. Now that I am older, I am understanding my own body language better. Take care and thanks. Dolores &  Mike From: Zannie <zannie68@...> Subject: rheumatic Re: Diet rheumatic Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 9:28 AM  Hi everyone, I found it to be very important, to achieving success with AP, that I follow a very strict diet. I ate basically protein, above the ground veggies, no sugar, no fruit, no dairy, and I I juiced a lot of veggies. I was able to achieve remission in 18 months. I was a patient of Dr. Mercolas at the time. I agree with all the other comments that your diet needs to be tailored to meet the needs of your own body. We are all so different and have unique needs. This time around, I am basically following the same diet. Ocassionally, I will allow myself to have a potato here and there and I have decided to add some carrots to my veggie juice. I've also decided to have small amounts of brown rice on the occassional basis. I think it's so important to eat your food with a joyful attitude and if that means adding some potatoes, carrots, and brown rice here and there then so be it. I was so frustrated when I had to limit my diet when I first got sick, and I believe my frustration negatively impacted my health. So, when I cheat on the diet here and there, I will try not to be so hard on myself. Just my 2 cents. Suzanne > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Hi Kinga, Recovery for me is not dependent on dietary restrictions but I am aware that mycoplasma feeds on gluten which is why I am diligent about not eating gluten & that eating dairy & sugar can certainly be inflammatory as well as a few other things, ie nightshade veggies & spices etc .. however after trial & error I was able to conclusively identify which food groups I reacted to & which I didn't so was able to reintroduce a lot of the foods I had previously binned. So it's not a case for me of NEVER being able to eat as I did before, just not as often & certainly not the quantities. Perhaps someone else can jump in here & say how diet affects them?? Maz > > Hello all, > > I was curious how many of you find your recovery is(was) dependent on dietary restrictions. I have been to a naturopath who put me on a " eubiotic " diet, which means no sugar , no grains other than rice and quinoa or rye, no yeast (sourdough is OK), above ground veggies only and no fruit (due to sugar). > > Dr. Mercola also emphasises cutting out sugar in his regimen to RA patients. > Although I am beginning to understand I will never be able to eat like i did before, I am wondering how restricted the diet needs to be on AP? > > Kinga > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Definitely, I will jump in. This story is all before I ever got sick with scleroderma and goes back about 30 years. One night I made a chili dish with beans. I was fine as we usually ate that often at that time. Next night I came home from work and since Mike was still at work, I decided to heat up the chili. One spoonful and suddenly I had a huge reaction. Face flushed, lips swollen, heart pounding, etc. I rushed to the ER where I was attended to immediately. I was told it was the beans.  I stopped eating chili with beans that day. Chili without beans, I was okay with. Twenty years later without a bean in my body in all that time.  I went to a pot luck party. My friend had made a lovely cold bean salad and I was so tempted. I held a bean to my lip waiting for the usual tickle and it didn't happen. I put the bean in my mouth. Still okay. Took a bite. Just fine. I waited a while. No problem. I took a different bean and then another bean and was still fine. That day I ended up eating up almost the entire cold bean salad one bean at a time and been eating beans since without problems. Don't know why or how the body works. But the body will tell you when you should or should not have something. Dietary needs change like the body changes. Nothing is a forever situation. Dolores & Mike From: Maz <maz.aust@...> Subject: rheumatic Re: Diet rheumatic Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 11:01 PM  Hi Kinga, Recovery for me is not dependent on dietary restrictions but I am aware that mycoplasma feeds on gluten which is why I am diligent about not eating gluten & that eating dairy & sugar can certainly be inflammatory as well as a few other things, ie nightshade veggies & spices etc .. however after trial & error I was able to conclusively identify which food groups I reacted to & which I didn't so was able to reintroduce a lot of the foods I had previously binned. So it's not a case for me of NEVER being able to eat as I did before, just not as often & certainly not the quantities. Perhaps someone else can jump in here & say how diet affects them?? Maz > > Hello all, > > I was curious how many of you find your recovery is(was) dependent on dietary restrictions. I have been to a naturopath who put me on a " eubiotic " diet, which means no sugar , no grains other than rice and quinoa or rye, no yeast (sourdough is OK), above ground veggies only and no fruit (due to sugar). > > Dr. Mercola also emphasises cutting out sugar in his regimen to RA patients. > Although I am beginning to understand I will never be able to eat like i did before, I am wondering how restricted the diet needs to be on AP? > > Kinga > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 This gives me some hope for sure, but I am guessing you have to restrict for a period of a few months for sure. The naturopath I saw is convinced that we can be cured with diet, cleansing, colonics without drugs at all, including AP or LDN. It is just a difficult and expensive road. Not that AP isn't. Probably I should begin eliminating foods now, even before AP but it is not easy. It is easier to be motivated when you are paying big bucks to see the doc that is telling you to do it. Kinga rheumatic Re: Diet Hi Kinga, Recovery for me is not dependent on dietary restrictions but I am aware that mycoplasma feeds on gluten which is why I am diligent about not eating gluten & that eating dairy & sugar can certainly be inflammatory as well as a few other things, ie nightshade veggies & spices etc .. however after trial & error I was able to conclusively identify which food groups I reacted to & which I didn't so was able to reintroduce a lot of the foods I had previously binned. So it's not a case for me of NEVER being able to eat as I did before, just not as often & certainly not the quantities. Perhaps someone else can jump in here & say how diet affects them?? Maz > > Hello all, > > I was curious how many of you find your recovery is(was) dependent on dietary restrictions. I have been to a naturopath who put me on a " eubiotic " diet, which means no sugar , no grains other than rice and quinoa or rye, no yeast (sourdough is OK), above ground veggies only and no fruit (due to sugar). > > Dr. Mercola also emphasises cutting out sugar in his regimen to RA patients. > Although I am beginning to understand I will never be able to eat like i did before, I am wondering how restricted the diet needs to be on AP? > > Kinga > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 No grains should be eaten on a candida diet. Too high carb. Feed the fungus. Wil is our group member and has his own clinic. He is saving my life and saving me a lot of money. Was desperately ill for 10 years before getting on MMS/AOT; it is not " maybe " working for me, it IS working for me. Nine months supply cost $30--cheap. ..I eat 60% raw veges, LOW carbs. Diet is also critical. .. The unsoaked nuts ie almond milk will also have enzyme inhibitors/anti-nutrients. Seeds/nuts should be soaked overnight in warm salted h20 if going to be eaten at all. (So don't recommend almond milk or grapeseed oil at all either.) ...Spaghetti sauce is usually made with tomatoes which are a fruit, really high carb. Not recommend tomatoes either--sorry. ..MMS heals lyme.. Antibiotics will keep killing the probiotics in the gut, counterproductive.. If anyone of us is craving sweets (tomatoes, breads of any kind) and feeding the body that stuff, we are simply giving the fungus the food it is screaming for. ~Louise I am a newbie and have been silently following for a month or more now. I agree the MMS is going into overkill, even with the best of intentions. Whether this is the " cure all " or not, diet is just as important and must be looked at equally if not more. I have not tried MMS but I can give you a long list of other supplements I've tried with some success. Probiotics are great, oil of oregano is good when I can stomach it, coconut and grapeseed oil on any salad or fried food, digestive enzymes, MSM (not to be confused with MMS), NAC, etc. What I would personally like to see is any kind of recipes that I can make at home (especially ones that are sweetened with Stevia). I cannot live without something sweet now and then. On that note Stevia is ridiculously expensive so I'm attempting to grow my own plants from seeds. If anyone has tips on this please chime in. Another avenue we can discuss (because our diets tend to be double what others have to pay) is that products are sometimes a treasure hunt funding gluten and sugar free foods (together in one package). For example does any know a good spaghetti sauce without sugar? What's the tastiest brand of almond milk? Has anyone attempted baking gluten free and sugar free cupcakes? Where can I find a decent tasting bread that will fit the protocol? Etc. I would also like to hear some different protocols out there and success stories. Most people leave groups after they find something that works for them and forget to share their information. It's a sad fact of life and leaves the rest of us still fighting in the dark. I am here because I also suffer from Lyme disease and excessive antibiotics so some of us can't readily report what is helping the them fully or not with other factors in play. I understand that. Most people here probably should also do a heavy metal cleanse because candida covers it up too. While Louise has good intentions, most of us are at the end of our ropes with finances and trying different magic " cure all " pills that fail and we just can't rationalize buying or taking any more without an extremely solid reason. I don't know this Wil guy nor his credibility and at times it does come off as another scam. I'm sorry. Sometimes it's easy to confuse fanaticism with the truth. I realize this is nothing new, just a perspective from outside of one person. Take it as you will. Lex ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Hi Group:) What I want to know is how do you do the diet when you CANNOT clean out your cupboards or fridge because you have a teenager and grandkids in and out that want to eat like they always have at home and at Grams????? I'm just like ........the spirit is willing but thats about it:(( Darn! Seems like I always need willpower or extra strength for something!! HUGS:) Carol ** California Carol! HUGS:) Carol^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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