Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

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Well if you have the money for the expensive stuff.But doesn't the ozone itself kill any impurities?As far as regulating it , is it that important to get a certain mixture of ozone for an enema?If you turn down the concentrator , you get a higher rate of concentration of oxygen and turn the ozone generator up. you get a higher ozone. I just don't see the issue of a finely regulated ozone for an enema?And the Ozone sould itself do the purification ? Am I wrong here?ThanksDennis To: Rife Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Re: H2O2

Do not use an oxygen concentrator! The gas isn't pure and you can't calculate the concentration accurately, nor can you meter the flow rate which is critical.

Purchase a 20 cubic foot oxygen tank at your local welding store with CGA-540 fittings. You can purchase a used bottle filled for under $100 USD. Exchange the tanks thereafter for about $15 USD. Obtain a pediatric regulator. You need to produce 1/8 LPM for ozone production. Don't but medical grade oxygen or a CGA-870 regulator, the fittings are crappy and you often mustt have a prescription to get a more expensive tank containing the same gas.

Next purchase the Enaly 1000BT-12 generator and get some ozone resistant hoses like Tygon or silicone rubber.

Take enemas with water saturated with the ozone. The vascularity of the rectum is massive and your portal vein will suck up the ozone which will purify your liver and subsequently the blood. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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The stuff I listed is very inexpensive, in fact, the cheapest that I have found

to do the job properly. With the exception of direct injection of ozone gas, the

Enaly generator is perfect and I have not seen anything better at any price

outside of the GE-60 and the hard to find Hansler devices from Germany.

The beauty of saturating enema water is the fact that the concentrations cannot

reach dangerous levels where tissue damage occurs. At 37C. The maximum ozone

saturation is in the mid 30% range. Enough to be effective without much

potential risk.

Of course ozone destroys impurities but the problem with concentrators, in spite

of no ability to determine actual concentration levels measured in GAMMA,

nitrogen is also present. NOX is desirable in the blood as it is a

vaso-dialator, but it is also responsible for clotting. As cancer is an anaerobe

(aka a plant fungi) the last thing one would want is to apply what is

essentially nitrogen fertilizer that stimulates plant growth. Nope, no oxygen

concentrators for me...Taboo

Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

----------------------------------------------------------------------Well if

you have the money for the expensive stuff.

But doesn't the ozone itself kill any impurities?

As far as regulating it , is it that important to get a certain mixture of ozone

for an enema?

If you turn down the concentrator , you get a higher rate of concentration of

oxygen and turn the ozone generator up. you get a higher ozone.

I just don't see the issue of a finely regulated ozone for an enema?

And the Ozone sould itself do the purification ? Am I wrong here?

[Guest guest]

Look at the comparisonEnaly generator and WPS-400 by synergyEnaly Ozone Output : 400mg/h The synergy Gamma output: approximately 100 (both chambers) NOT Milli Gama True the Enaly is under $200 but the Synergy is FAR higher Gamma rate. and about $800 ( I can get them for $600)and the wps100 Synergy Ozone Machine Generator for about $400 which is about 80gamma Not Mili GammaSo about 80 time more powerful. for about twice the price.Unless I am looking at someting wrong. And with all due respect. On the statement ."As cancer is an anaerobe (aka a plant fungi)" yes cancer is anaerobic but how does that make it a plant?Plastic is anaerobic but not a plant.How can human cells that strt growwing haywire become a plant?A patholigist can and does take a cancer cell and determine if it is a cancer or not. Have you ever heard of one saying that human DNA someohow converted to a plant life.It is still human cells gone haywire. Not a plant.I do not understand your reasoning here. I am speaking from a point of view of someone who had cancer . It was in my colon and spread to my liver ,lungs and pancreas.And even though I did some radiation and 11 days of chemo, I stopped treatment and surgery and went alternative.Now here 6 years later I am compelety cancer free. I did ozone as one of the treatments and never fertized the cancer. hope you understand I am not comdeming your comments , just trying to reason on it.Sometimes you have to stand back and say . "does this make sense" And a cancer being or converting to a plant does not , to me.thanks again,Dennis To: Rife Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

The stuff I listed is very inexpensive, in fact, the cheapest that I have found to do the job properly. With the exception of direct injection of ozone gas, the Enaly generator is perfect and I have not seen anything better at any price outside of the GE-60 and the hard to find Hansler devices from Germany.

The beauty of saturating enema water is the fact that the concentrations cannot reach dangerous levels where tissue damage occurs. At 37C. The maximum ozone saturation is in the mid 30% range. Enough to be effective without much potential risk.

Of course ozone destroys impurities but the problem with concentrators, in spite of no ability to determine actual concentration levels measured in GAMMA, nitrogen is also present. NOX is desirable in the blood as it is a vaso-dialator, but it is also responsible for clotting. As cancer is an anaerobe (aka a plant fungi) the last thing one would want is to apply what is essentially nitrogen fertilizer that stimulates plant growth. Nope, no oxygen concentrators for me...Taboo

Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

----------------------------------------------------------Well if you have the money for the expensive stuff.

But doesn't the ozone itself kill any impurities?

As far as regulating it , is it that important to get a certain mixture of ozone for an enema?

If you turn down the concentrator , you get a higher rate of concentration of oxygen and turn the ozone generator up. you get a higher ozone.

I just don't see the issue of a finely regulated ozone for an enema?

And the Ozone sould itself do the purification ? Am I wrong here?

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I need to correct the statement $600 to be used though, not for a new one.You can get them here new. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=wps400+ozone & _sacat=0 & _odkw=wps400 & _osacat=0 Dennis To: "Rife " <Rife > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:15 PM Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Look at the comparisonEnaly generator and WPS-400 by synergyEnaly Ozone Output : 400mg/h The synergy Gamma output: approximately 100 (both chambers) NOT Milli Gama True the Enaly is under $200 but the Synergy is FAR higher Gamma rate. and about $800 ( I can get them for $600)and the

wps100 Synergy Ozone Machine Generator for about $400 which is about 80gamma Not Mili GammaSo about 80 time more powerful. for about twice the price.Unless I am looking at someting wrong. And with all due respect. On the statement ."As cancer is an anaerobe (aka a plant fungi)"

yes cancer is anaerobic but how does that make it a plant?Plastic is anaerobic but not a plant.How can human cells that strt growwing haywire become a plant?A patholigist can and does take a cancer cell and determine if it is a cancer or not. Have you ever heard of one saying that human DNA someohow converted to a plant

life.It is still human cells gone haywire. Not a plant.I do not understand your reasoning here. I am speaking from a point of view of someone who had cancer . It was in my colon and spread to my liver ,lungs and pancreas.And even though I did some radiation and 11 days of chemo, I stopped treatment and surgery and went alternative.Now here 6 years later I am compelety cancer free. I did ozone as one of the treatments and never fertized the cancer. hope you understand I am not comdeming your comments , just trying to reason on it.Sometimes you have to stand back and say . "does this make sense" And a cancer being or converting to a plant does not , to me.thanks again,Dennis To: Rife Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

The stuff I listed is very inexpensive, in fact, the cheapest that I have found to do the job properly. With the exception of direct injection of ozone gas, the Enaly generator is perfect and I have not seen anything better at any price outside of the GE-60 and the hard to find Hansler devices from Germany.

The beauty of saturating enema water is the fact that the concentrations cannot reach dangerous levels where tissue damage occurs. At 37C. The maximum ozone saturation is in the mid 30% range. Enough to be effective without much potential risk.

Of course ozone destroys impurities but the problem with concentrators, in spite of no ability to determine actual concentration levels measured in GAMMA, nitrogen is also present. NOX is desirable in the blood as it is a vaso-dialator, but it is also responsible for clotting. As cancer is an anaerobe (aka a plant fungi) the last thing one would want is to apply what is essentially nitrogen fertilizer that stimulates plant growth. Nope, no oxygen concentrators for me...Taboo

Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

----------------------------------------------------------Well if you have the money for the expensive stuff.

But doesn't the ozone itself kill any impurities?

As far as regulating it , is it that important to get a certain mixture of ozone for an enema?

If you turn down the concentrator , you get a higher rate of concentration of oxygen and turn the ozone generator up. you get a higher ozone.

I just don't see the issue of a finely regulated ozone for an enema?

And the Ozone sould itself do the purification ? Am I wrong here?

[Guest guest]

Normal cells get deprived of oxygen, and like our brain gets brain damage from lack of oxygen so does our cells. Our cell diminishes and THINKS like a plant and all it knows how to do is grow unintelligently.... RAPIDLY. This does not mean it is a plant cell.....Speaking from 1st hand experience I can say yes the Synergy ones does work and quite well in fact.It is sol by a few other companies under their brand and some refer to it as medical grade, rather it is or not. Hmmm , maybe I need to write a book,lol From my own experience in sucessfully getting completely rid of cancer (stage 4) Yes the Synergy works great , there is no need to have a calibrated ozone supply, in this type of

usage. You can ozonate water and it will disapate in time , in the sauna it will also disapate and so on.There is no percise use in this instance. Did not mean to get you riled, but I think your reasoning on this is flawed. But thanks for your input.Dennis To: Rife Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:24 PM Subject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Anyone who spends more than $200 for an ozone machine is getting ripped off. None of those devices, including the Synergy, are GAMMA calibrated and are thus not medical grade devices.

Plastic is inert and can't be an anaerobe.

You have no idea what cancer is so it is pointless for me to entertain you. Wait for my book and you will get the answers you seek. caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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Carmi,

You have to know that all of people who are in this Rife forum know quite well about cancer. We're all readed Dr Rife's works and so many others Dr(s) workks . You know a little and writing a book which made the saying " Any body can write a book " so valid . Please don't be so cocky !

Hung

Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 OzoneTo: "Rife " <Rife >Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 2:56 PM

Normal cells get deprived of oxygen, and like our brain gets brain damage from lack of oxygen so does our cells.

Our cell diminishes and THINKS like a plant and all it knows how to do is grow unintelligently.... RAPIDLY. This does not mean it is a plant cell.....

Speaking from 1st hand experience I can say yes the Synergy ones does work and quite well in fact.

It is sol by a few other companies under their brand and some refer to it as medical grade, rather it is or not.

Hmmm , maybe I need to write a book,lol

From my own experience in sucessfully getting completely rid of cancer (stage 4)

Yes the Synergy works great , there is no need to have a calibrated ozone supply, in this type of usage.

You can ozonate water and it will disapate in time , in the sauna it will also disapate and so on.

There is no percise use in this instance.

Did not mean to get you riled, but I think your reasoning on this is flawed.

But thanks for your input.

Dennis

To: Rife Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:24 PMSubject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Anyone who spends more than $200 for an ozone machine is getting ripped off. None of those devices, including the Synergy, are GAMMA calibrated and are thus not medical grade devices. Plastic is inert and can't be an anaerobe.You have no idea what cancer is so it is pointless for me to entertain you. Wait for my book and you will get the answers you seek. caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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ok carmi......you got me.....when is the book out and how do we get it?simon To: Rife Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 8:30 AM Subject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Oh come on now! I never said that the Synergy crap machine didn't work. I just said that people pay way too much for it. It isn't any different than the cheap Chinese devices and the fact that it comes in 2 versions with a junction tube is simply two cheap ozone generators cascaded and crammed into a fancy box.

Sure everyone here is aware of the basics of cancer and the work of Otto Warburg... No big deal. But I know that none of you, without exception, understands the common denominator to all disease and that my friends, is the subject of my new book.

The changes that occur in once healthy cells is not cancer. It is the environment in which the cell is living that causes the cells to malfunction. No RNA/DNA or the fact that Grandma had a hump has anything to do with it.

Cancer is environmental period! Sure ozone halts it, but we all know that delivery is the real problem. But it doesn't need to be that way. There is a common denominator to all disease, not just cancer. When this issue is properly addressed, ALL disease goes away, including cancer. That is the revelation that you will discover in my new book. None of you have a clue.

It doesn't matter whose ozone generator is better than another, you won't need them in the first place nor will you require exposure to any modern version of a Rife machine. I have the answer! It is absolutely simple and logical. Those who pay attention (I suspect far too few) will no longer worry about dying from any disease. It simply isn't necessary.

Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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Hung The Leopard does not change her spots Steve To: Rife Sent: Mon, July 23, 2012 3:47:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Carmi,

You have to know that all of people who are in this Rife forum know quite well about cancer. We're all readed Dr Rife's works and so many others Dr(s) workks . You know a little and writing a book which made the saying " Any body can write a book " so valid . Please don't be so cocky !

Hung

Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 OzoneTo: "Rife " <Rife >Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 2:56 PM

Normal cells get deprived of oxygen, and like our brain gets brain damage from lack of oxygen so does our cells.

Our cell diminishes and THINKS like a plant and all it knows how to do is grow unintelligently.... RAPIDLY. This does not mean it is a plant cell.....

Speaking from 1st hand experience I can say yes the Synergy ones does work and quite well in fact.

It is sol by a few other companies under their brand and some refer to it as medical grade, rather it is or not.

Hmmm , maybe I need to write a book,lol

From my own experience in sucessfully getting completely rid of cancer (stage 4)

Yes the Synergy works great , there is no need to have a calibrated ozone supply, in this type of usage.

You can ozonate water and it will disapate in time , in the sauna it will also disapate and so on.

There is no percise use in this instance.

Did not mean to get you riled, but I think your reasoning on this is flawed.

But thanks for your input.

Dennis

To: Rife Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:24 PMSubject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Anyone who spends more than $200 for an ozone machine is getting ripped off. None of those devices, including the Synergy, are GAMMA calibrated and are thus not medical grade devices. Plastic is inert and can't be an anaerobe.You have no idea what cancer is so it is pointless for me to entertain you. Wait for my book and you will get the answers you seek. caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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Caveat Empty/Emptor !!! Carmi dear,

I'd spent thousand of hours to study Eastern , Western medicines, modern med , Chines, Japanese, Vietnamese herbals ,(and many family secretes herbal and treatment for illness that have never been published in any book for thousand of years). Japanese diet that cured every deseases. Accupunture, accupresure , reflexology , Face therapy , American Indian hebal , and so many others that you may never heard of ! And I consisdered myself of knowing very little . The more one's know, the more one's realized that one's knowing little ! That's the one who knows more !

What you know is all consisted as follows :

- A healthy body is a body that balance in Yin and Yang, or Alkality and Acidity (7.4), depending what medical system that you want to use to talk. Imbalancing in those will resulted in illnesses, Too Yang will cause heart problem, too Yin (Acidic) will resuted in cancer, Arthritic etc...

- To keep your body healthy, you have to take care of the fowlowing things :

1. Consumtion. You are what you eat and what you drink. Eat & drink right stuffs !

2. Digestion and absortion . Your stomach have to process food properly for your small instestine to absorb nutrients into your blood stream to nourish all cells.

3. Circulation. Blood must be circulating well so all nutrients can be dilivered to all cells.

4. Elimination. After all cell consumed their foods, they'll throw out their waists, and those must be eliminated thru rectum, kidney/private parts , skins ( sweat ) and breath !

Our body throwing out waists everyday. If we take in bad stuffs more than our body can throw them out, then the toxic waist will accumulating in our body untill it changed Yin/Yang or Acidic/Alkality balance far enough , then illness occures . (this is environmental thing that you'd made it sound sooo big of a deal that you think no one here know about ! ) . Germs will thrive in Ying or Acidic environment . Our T cells will not operate well in that environment . So germs overtaken our defense system, then illness appears.

There are 2 types of treatments.

1. Direct, but short term treatment. Drugs, herbals, ozonated water/bath etc... these will kill germs, fungi ,parasite etc... deseases are stopped. But it will reoccured as soon as new germs entering your body and multiply quickly because your body environment is good for them .

2. Indirect, long term treatment, long lasting as well . This is using diet methods to rebalancing Yin/Yang or Acidic/Alkality condition in your body, then all germs will be destroyed by our T cells, or die off as they can not survice in Yang or Alkality environment that's all !

There are at least 12-15 cancer treatment that I knew of, and I'm still learning every day from my teachers in this forum and other places . Carmi, That's your bussiness to write and publish your book . But you're insulting all of us here is making you an undesireable member in this forum . We're here to help each other and learn from each other ! You seemed to use this forum to promote your bussiness to make money for yourself ! Please tone your arogant voice down because there are so many people much better that you and I in this forum !!!!

Hung

Subject: Re: H2O2 OzoneTo: Rife Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 5:30 PM

Oh come on now! I never said that the Synergy crap machine didn't work. I just said that people pay way too much for it. It isn't any different than the cheap Chinese devices and the fact that it comes in 2 versions with a junction tube is simply two cheap ozone generators cascaded and crammed into a fancy box. Sure everyone here is aware of the basics of cancer and the work of Otto Warburg... No big deal. But I know that none of you, without exception, understands the common denominator to all disease and that my friends, is the subject of my new book. The changes that occur in once healthy cells is not cancer. It is the environment in which the cell is living that causes the cells to malfunction. No RNA/DNA or the fact that Grandma had a hump has anything to do with it. Cancer is environmental period! Sure ozone halts it, but we all know that delivery is the real problem. But it doesn't need to be that way. There is a

common denominator to all disease, not just cancer. When this issue is properly addressed, ALL disease goes away, including cancer. That is the revelation that you will discover in my new book. None of you have a clue.It doesn't matter whose ozone generator is better than another, you won't need them in the first place nor will you require exposure to any modern version of a Rife machine. I have the answer! It is absolutely simple and logical. Those who pay attention (I suspect far too few) will no longer worry about dying from any disease. It simply isn't necessary.Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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to be honest i will get a copy but i was rather unimpressed by the print of the Bell book. Please let us know when its out and where to get it from. As i live in a developing country its usually interesting to get a deliver to these parts of the world.looking forward to your advice.s From: comdyne2002

To: Rife Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012 4:09 PM Subject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Hung:

I never said that the book was about Rife. I mention it, of course, but the main theme is entirely different. Yeah, yin/yang and acid/alkali balance is important and I am in agreement with all you mentioned. The problem is that regardless of all we know, people remain sick and are getting sicker. The question that no one has adequately addressed is the fact that there is a common denominator to virtually all disease. That is the point I make in the book and I have never seen it mentioned anywhere. This will be the first time you will have heard about it, as I have never seen it mentioned anywhere until now.

I find it strange that anyone would expect someone else to freely give away intellectual property that costs thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of study to obtain. No one objects to Nina's book do they? Why should that be any different for me? Thousands of books have been written by authors and readily available in book stores all over the world, and as far as I know, none of them are free. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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i bet you i know more than you do and i'm not having sick people wait if they want the answer...i'm getting very tired of this discussion.To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 1:09:39 AMSubject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Hung:

I never said that the book was about Rife. I mention it, of course, but the main theme is entirely different. Yeah, yin/yang and acid/alkali balance is important and I am in agreement with all you mentioned. The problem is that regardless of all we know, people remain sick and are getting sicker. The question that no one has adequately addressed is the fact that there is a common denominator to virtually all disease. That is the point I make in the book and I have never seen it mentioned anywhere. This will be the first time you will have heard about it, as I have never seen it mentioned anywhere until now.

I find it strange that anyone would expect someone else to freely give away intellectual property that costs thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of study to obtain. No one objects to Nina's book do they? Why should that be any different for me? Thousands of books have been written by authors and readily available in book stores all over the world, and as far as I know, none of them are free. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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nenah does not hold out knowledge until she publishes..To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 1:09:39 AMSubject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Hung:

I never said that the book was about Rife. I mention it, of course, but the main theme is entirely different. Yeah, yin/yang and acid/alkali balance is important and I am in agreement with all you mentioned. The problem is that regardless of all we know, people remain sick and are getting sicker. The question that no one has adequately addressed is the fact that there is a common denominator to virtually all disease. That is the point I make in the book and I have never seen it mentioned anywhere. This will be the first time you will have heard about it, as I have never seen it mentioned anywhere until now.

I find it strange that anyone would expect someone else to freely give away intellectual property that costs thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of study to obtain. No one objects to Nina's book do they? Why should that be any different for me? Thousands of books have been written by authors and readily available in book stores all over the world, and as far as I know, none of them are free. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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sorry i reacted...i've really enjoyed and respected your contributions, carmi....in fact i make sure to read your comments because i value them...ariellaTo: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 1:09:39 AMSubject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Hung:

I never said that the book was about Rife. I mention it, of course, but the main theme is entirely different. Yeah, yin/yang and acid/alkali balance is important and I am in agreement with all you mentioned. The problem is that regardless of all we know, people remain sick and are getting sicker. The question that no one has adequately addressed is the fact that there is a common denominator to virtually all disease. That is the point I make in the book and I have never seen it mentioned anywhere. This will be the first time you will have heard about it, as I have never seen it mentioned anywhere until now.

I find it strange that anyone would expect someone else to freely give away intellectual property that costs thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of study to obtain. No one objects to Nina's book do they? Why should that be any different for me? Thousands of books have been written by authors and readily available in book stores all over the world, and as far as I know, none of them are free. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

[Guest guest]

Hi Hazen,

Stop wasting the time with emails and unpleasant things, focus on the writing the book.

Nev

From: comdyne2002

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:38 PM

To: Rife

Subject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

You bet that you know more than I do? Where is that coming from?Look folks, I couldn't care less about massaging other people's egos. I am of the belief that in the 15 plus years that I have been drawn to the point of obsession to collect antique medical books and glean them, I have come to the belief that my quest was driven by Divine intervention. Almost with boring regularity, I would read a reference to a colleague in a current book and when I got on the Internet to find a copy, there was almost always a single copy available and at an affordable price. This happened with almost predictable regularity, I knew that at least one copy would pop up, and it almost always did.All of these great doctors were obviously dedicated and driven by the quest for truth. Each in their own way contributed to the immense puzzle that I was building up in my mind. After about 15 years of assimilating all of their awesome contributions, I began to see the picture. Although there remain a few gaps in my knowledge base, the picture is now quite obvious to me. Yes, there is a common denominator to all disease.Statements such as "I bet I know more than you do," is nothing more that arrogant ignorance that has no basis in reaching the truth. If one so bold knows the answers and states that he freely pontificates such knowledge without charge to the masses then why doesn't he just tell us what he knows and put an end to the problem? The reason, of course, is that he doesn't have the answer. But I do! How can anyone pre-judge my book? Unless they have supreme mental prowess, of course. Do you claim to posses such power my friend? Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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To: Rife Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

i bet you i know more than you do and i'm not having sick people wait if they want the answer...i'm getting very tired of this discussion.To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 1:09:39 AMSubject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Hung:

I never said that the book was about Rife. I mention it, of course, but the main theme is entirely different. Yeah, yin/yang and acid/alkali balance is important and I am in agreement with all you mentioned. The problem is that regardless of all we know, people remain sick and are getting sicker. The question that no one has adequately addressed is the fact that there is a common denominator to virtually all disease. That is the point I make in the book and I have never seen it mentioned anywhere. This will be the first time you will have heard about it, as I have never seen it mentioned anywhere until now.

I find it strange that anyone would expect someone else to freely give away intellectual property that costs thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of study to obtain. No one objects to Nina's book do they? Why should that be any different for me? Thousands of books have been written by authors and readily available in book stores all over the world, and as far as I know, none of them are free. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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Carmi, don't let them bait you. You are just digging a hole for yourself. Ignore their ignorance, arrogance and "I could have written that" and just concentrate on getting your new book published. I personally have been waiting too long for this. After all,the proof of your Pudding is in the Eating.

A contributor from way back called Dr McLeod with whom I and many original Rife workers were in contact, first working in Cuba and then in China made similar promises of a 'breakthrough' in alternative healing, which had lots of build up but never manifested into a meaningful publication. Just get on with it and Caveat Emptor.

Best Regards

Tony

To: Rife Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 22:38Subject: Re: H2O2 OzoneYou bet that you know more than I do? Where is that coming from?Look folks, I couldn't care less about massaging other people's egos. I am of the belief that in the 15 plus years that I have been drawn to the point of obsession to collect antique medical books and glean them, I have

come to the belief that my quest was driven by Divine intervention. Almost with boring regularity, I would read a reference to a colleague in a current book and when I got on the Internet to find a copy, there was almost always a single copy available and at an affordable price. This happened with almost predictable regularity, I knew that at least one copy would pop up, and it almost always did.All of these great doctors were obviously dedicated and driven by the quest for truth. Each in their own way contributed to the immense puzzle that I was building up in my mind. After about 15 years of assimilating all of their awesome contributions, I began to see the picture. Although there remain a few gaps in my knowledge base, the picture is now quite obvious to me. Yes, there is a common denominator to all disease.Statements such as "I bet I know more than you do," is nothing more that arrogant ignorance that has no basis in reaching the

truth. If one so bold knows the answers and states that he freely pontificates such knowledge without charge to the masses then why doesn't he just tell us what he knows and put an end to the problem? The reason, of course, is that he doesn't have the answer. But I do! How can anyone pre-judge my book? Unless they have supreme mental prowess, of course. Do you claim to posses such power my friend? Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen------------------------------------

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stop prejudging your own book...you have no way of knowing what others know...just write it and then!!! people can judge for themselves....To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 4:54:30 PMSubject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Hi Hazen,

Stop wasting the time with emails and unpleasant things, focus on the writing the book.

Nev

From: comdyne2002

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:38 PM

To: Rife

Subject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

You bet that you know more than I do? Where is that coming from?Look folks, I couldn't care less about massaging other people's egos. I am of the belief that in the 15 plus years that I have been drawn to the point of obsession to collect antique medical books and glean them, I have come to the belief that my quest was driven by Divine intervention. Almost with boring regularity, I would read a reference to a colleague in a current book and when I got on the Internet to find a copy, there was almost always a single copy available and at an affordable price. This happened with almost predictable regularity, I knew that at least one copy would pop up, and it almost always did.All of these great doctors were obviously dedicated and driven by the quest for truth. Each in their own way contributed to the immense puzzle that I was building up in my mind. After about 15 years of assimilating all of their awesome contributions, I began to see the picture. Although there remain a few gaps in my knowledge base, the picture is now quite obvious to me. Yes, there is a common denominator to all disease.Statements such as "I bet I know more than you do," is nothing more that arrogant ignorance that has no basis in reaching the truth. If one so bold knows the answers and states that he freely pontificates such knowledge without charge to the masses then why doesn't he just tell us what he knows and put an end to the problem? The reason, of course, is that he doesn't have the answer. But I do! How can anyone pre-judge my book? Unless they have supreme mental prowess, of course. Do you claim to posses such power my friend? Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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i've been curing cancer for the last 40 years.. using techniques you've never even heard of ...you're not the only smart one who's devoted their whole life to this...i've devoted over 50 years of at least as intensive study as you..To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 2:38:45 PMSubject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

You bet that you know more than I do? Where is that coming from?

Look folks, I couldn't care less about massaging other people's egos. I am of the belief that in the 15 plus years that I have been drawn to the point of obsession to collect antique medical books and glean them, I have come to the belief that my quest was driven by Divine intervention. Almost with boring regularity, I would read a reference to a colleague in a current book and when I got on the Internet to find a copy, there was almost always a single copy available and at an affordable price. This happened with almost predictable regularity, I knew that at least one copy would pop up, and it almost always did.

All of these great doctors were obviously dedicated and driven by the quest for truth. Each in their own way contributed to the immense puzzle that I was building up in my mind. After about 15 years of assimilating all of their awesome contributions, I began to see the picture. Although there remain a few gaps in my knowledge base, the picture is now quite obvious to me. Yes, there is a common denominator to all disease.

Statements such as "I bet I know more than you do," is nothing more that arrogant ignorance that has no basis in reaching the truth. If one so bold knows the answers and states that he freely pontificates such knowledge without charge to the masses then why doesn't he just tell us what he knows and put an end to the problem? The reason, of course, is that he doesn't have the answer. But I do! How can anyone pre-judge my book? Unless they have supreme mental prowess, of course. Do you claim to posses such power my friend? Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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not only have i heard about it, i have used it for years! To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 12:44:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

i bet you i know more than you do and i'm not having sick people wait if they want the answer...i'm getting very tired of this discussion.To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 1:09:39 AMSubject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Hung:

I never said that the book was about Rife. I mention it, of course, but the main theme is entirely different. Yeah, yin/yang and acid/alkali balance is important and I am in agreement with all you mentioned. The problem is that regardless of all we know, people remain sick and are getting sicker. The question that no one has adequately addressed is the fact that there is a common denominator to virtually all disease. That is the point I make in the book and I have never seen it mentioned anywhere. This will be the first time you will have heard about it, as I have never seen it mentioned anywhere until now.

I find it strange that anyone would expect someone else to freely give away intellectual property that costs thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of study to obtain. No one objects to Nina's book do they? Why should that be any different for me? Thousands of books have been written by authors and readily available in book stores all over the world, and as far as I know, none of them are free. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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as i said recently, there is no "cure" for cancer but if given the tools needed to heal itself, the human body can "heal" itself of cancer and almost every other infliction known to humankindTo: Rife From: ariellav@...Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:14:41 -0700Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

stop prejudging your own book...you have no way of knowing what others know...just write it and then!!! people can judge for themselves....To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 4:54:30 PMSubject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Hi Hazen,

Stop wasting the time with emails and unpleasant things, focus on the writing the book.

Nev

From: comdyne2002

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:38 PM

To: Rife

Subject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

You bet that you know more than I do? Where is that coming from?Look folks, I couldn't care less about massaging other people's egos. I am of the belief that in the 15 plus years that I have been drawn to the point of obsession to collect antique medical books and glean them, I have come to the belief that my quest was driven by Divine intervention. Almost with boring regularity, I would read a reference to a colleague in a current book and when I got on the Internet to find a copy, there was almost always a single copy available and at an affordable price. This happened with almost predictable regularity, I knew that at least one copy would pop up, and it almost always did.All of these great doctors were obviously dedicated and driven by the quest for truth. Each in their own way contributed to the immense puzzle that I was building up in my mind. After about 15 years of assimilating all of their awesome contributions, I began to see the picture. Although there remain a few gaps in my knowledge base, the picture is now quite obvious to me. Yes, there is a common denominator to all disease.Statements such as "I bet I know more than you do," is nothing more that arrogant ignorance that has no basis in reaching the truth. If one so bold knows the answers and states that he freely pontificates such knowledge without charge to the masses then why doesn't he just tell us what he knows and put an end to the problem? The reason, of course, is that he doesn't have the answer. But I do! How can anyone pre-judge my book? Unless they have supreme mental prowess, of course. Do you claim to posses such power my friend? Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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Great that we have so many knowledgable people on the forum. i feel privileged.Any methods in particular that you would like to share with us ariella?Simon To: Rife Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

not only have i heard about it, i have used it for years! To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 12:44:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

i bet you i know more than you do and i'm not having sick people wait if they want the answer...i'm getting very tired of this discussion.To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 1:09:39 AMSubject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Hung:

I never said that the book was about Rife. I mention it, of course, but the main theme is entirely different. Yeah, yin/yang and acid/alkali balance is important and I am in agreement with all you mentioned. The problem is that regardless of all we know, people remain sick and are getting sicker. The question that no one has adequately addressed is the fact that there is a common denominator to virtually all disease. That is the point I make in the book and I have never seen it mentioned anywhere. This will be the first time you will have heard about it, as I have never seen it mentioned anywhere until now.

I find it strange that anyone would expect someone else to freely give away intellectual property that costs thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of study to obtain. No one objects to Nina's book do they? Why should that be any different for me? Thousands of books have been written by authors and readily available in book stores all over the world, and as far as I know, none of them are free. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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Yeah, there are cures.  Many of them.  i've cured cancer in a number of my clients over the last decade.  You that have no hope or real knowlledge should not use the words " no cure. "

 

as i said recently, there is no " cure " for cancer but if given the tools needed to heal itself, the human body can " heal " itself of cancer and almost every other infliction known to humankind

To: Rife From: ariellav@...Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:14:41 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

 

stop prejudging your own book...you have no way of knowing what others know...just write it and then!!! people can judge for themselves....

To: Rife

Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 4:54:30 PMSubject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

 

Hi Hazen,

 

Stop wasting the time with emails and unpleasant things, focus on the writing the book.

 

Nev

 

From: comdyne2002

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:38 PM

To: Rife

Subject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

 

 

You bet that you know more than I do? Where is that coming from?Look folks, I couldn't care less about massaging other people's egos. I am of the belief that in the 15 plus years that I have been drawn to the point of obsession to collect antique medical books and glean them, I have come to the belief that my quest was driven by Divine intervention. Almost with boring regularity, I would read a reference to a colleague in a current book and when I got on the Internet to find a copy, there was almost always a single copy available and at an affordable price. This happened with almost predictable regularity, I knew that at least one copy would pop up, and it almost always did.All of these great doctors were obviously dedicated and driven by the quest for truth. Each in their own way contributed to the immense puzzle that I was building up in my mind. After about 15 years of assimilating all of their awesome contributions, I began to see the picture. Although there remain a few gaps in my knowledge base, the picture is now quite obvious to me. Yes, there is a common denominator to all disease.Statements such as " I bet I know more than you do, " is nothing more that arrogant ignorance that has no basis in reaching the truth. If one so bold knows the answers and states that he freely pontificates such knowledge without charge to the masses then why doesn't he just tell us what he knows and put an end to the problem? The reason, of course, is that he doesn't have the answer. But I do! How can anyone pre-judge my book? Unless they have supreme mental prowess, of course. Do you claim to posses such power my friend? Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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using the word cure will get this forum closed down is my main pointTo: Rife From: jonellis.stevens77@...Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:01:15 -0400Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Yeah, there are cures. Many of them. i've cured cancer in a number of my clients over the last decade. You that have no hope or real knowlledge should not use the words "no cure."

as i said recently, there is no "cure" for cancer but if given the tools needed to heal itself, the human body can "heal" itself of cancer and almost every other infliction known to humankind

To: Rife From: ariellav@...Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:14:41 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

stop prejudging your own book...you have no way of knowing what others know...just write it and then!!! people can judge for themselves....

To: Rife

Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 4:54:30 PMSubject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

Hi Hazen,

Stop wasting the time with emails and unpleasant things, focus on the writing the book.

Nev

From: comdyne2002

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:38 PM

To: Rife

Subject: Re: H2O2 Ozone

You bet that you know more than I do? Where is that coming from?Look folks, I couldn't care less about massaging other people's egos. I am of the belief that in the 15 plus years that I have been drawn to the point of obsession to collect antique medical books and glean them, I have come to the belief that my quest was driven by Divine intervention. Almost with boring regularity, I would read a reference to a colleague in a current book and when I got on the Internet to find a copy, there was almost always a single copy available and at an affordable price. This happened with almost predictable regularity, I knew that at least one copy would pop up, and it almost always did.All of these great doctors were obviously dedicated and driven by the quest for truth. Each in their own way contributed to the immense puzzle that I was building up in my mind. After about 15 years of assimilating all of their awesome contributions, I began to see the picture. Although there remain a few gaps in my knowledge base, the picture is now quite obvious to me. Yes, there is a common denominator to all disease.Statements such as "I bet I know more than you do," is nothing more that arrogant ignorance that has no basis in reaching the truth. If one so bold knows the answers and states that he freely pontificates such knowledge without charge to the masses then why doesn't he just tell us what he knows and put an end to the problem? The reason, of course, is that he doesn't have the answer. But I do! How can anyone pre-judge my book? Unless they have supreme mental prowess, of course. Do you claim to posses such power my friend? Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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When I did my massage diploma and nutritional certificate, both government approved courses, we were all told we would cure and heal people.

The only place that has ever come into question in the last 15 years is on this forum.

Sounds like a misguided belief perception to me :-)

In Dr. Rife's video he says "cure" is a holy word, and any who oppose it are evil.

Sincerely,Ken Uzzellhttp://frex.com.au

Re: H2O2 Ozone

Personally, I doubt it. This forum has been here for years now. Some of us have become old hands. I to will say I have cured folks. It is what it is and we should not cower in fear of telling it the way it is. Online, we can be more open. Their is no internet police that would go after rogue rife machine operators. And we need the anecdotal accounts, the scientific pioneers, the big mouths that will scream about this from the highest hill to the lowest valley. And yes while using a rife machine is no guarantee one will get well , honestly no treatment of any kind carries a guarantee. We do our best that we can. Sometimes we even cure that which is said to be incurable. More people need to become rife machine owners and enthusiasts. >> > using the word cure will get this forum closed down is my main point> > >

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What are some of your techniques? To: Rife Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Re: H2O2 Ozone

i've been curing cancer for the last 40 years.. using techniques you've never even heard of ...you're not the only smart one who's devoted their whole life to this...i've devoted over 50 years of at least as intensive study as you..To: Rife Sent: Wed, July 25, 2012 2:38:45 PMSubject: Re: H2O2

Ozone

You bet that you know more than I do? Where is that coming from?

Look folks, I couldn't care less about massaging other people's egos. I am of the belief that in the 15 plus years that I have been drawn to the point of obsession to collect antique medical books and glean them, I have come to the belief that my quest was driven by Divine intervention. Almost with boring regularity, I would read a reference to a colleague in a current book and when I got on the Internet to find a copy, there was almost always a single copy available and at an affordable price. This happened with almost predictable regularity, I knew that at least one copy would pop up, and it almost always did.

All of these great doctors were obviously dedicated and driven by the quest for truth. Each in their own way contributed to the immense puzzle that I was building up in my mind. After about 15 years of assimilating all of their awesome contributions, I began to see the picture. Although there remain a few gaps in my knowledge base, the picture is now quite obvious to me. Yes, there is a common denominator to all disease.

Statements such as "I bet I know more than you do," is nothing more that arrogant ignorance that has no basis in reaching the truth. If one so bold knows the answers and states that he freely pontificates such knowledge without charge to the masses then why doesn't he just tell us what he knows and put an end to the problem? The reason, of course, is that he doesn't have the answer. But I do! How can anyone pre-judge my book? Unless they have supreme mental prowess, of course. Do you claim to posses such power my friend? Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen