Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

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Interesting.... though for the life of me I can't figure out what past

experience may be responsible for my particular triggers. ...

No, wait. My father used to mock me when I'd be upset or crying, so that may

explain my aversion to my dog's whining (the closest thing in my environment to

what presumably my father would've called my sad reactions).

That's one down, two do go. I've never had a bad experience at a club - that's

what I assumed might've triggered the bass aversion.

And the snoring? From my wonderful hubby? I used to get so frustrated when

he'd defend himself by saying he was " just breathing " ... but now I see it's ME

not him. But what experience would've triggered that?

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> �I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book ,

Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or

feelings you might have regarding the man and�

> just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and

other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and

personal emotion 151.�

> I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of

all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other

stimuli, touch,smells, sights.....

>

> Check it out.

>

> Mike

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http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+diane\

tics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%2\

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[Guest guest]

There is not a thing I can think of that would have been an onset for this. In

my case, I really think it's the whole wires crossed theory.

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> �I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book ,

Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or

feelings you might have regarding the man and�

> just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and

other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and

personal emotion 151.�

> I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of

all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other

stimuli, touch,smells, sights.....

>

> Check it out.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+diane\

tics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%2\

0hearing%20dianetics & f=false

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I sense sarcasm and closed mindedness in your response so I won't reply to it! To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

Interesting.... though for the life of me I can't figure out what past experience may be responsible for my particular triggers. ...

No, wait. My father used to mock me when I'd be upset or crying, so that may explain my aversion to my dog's whining (the closest thing in my environment to what presumably my father would've called my sad reactions).

That's one down, two do go. I've never had a bad experience at a club - that's what I assumed might've triggered the bass aversion.

And the snoring? From my wonderful hubby? I used to get so frustrated when he'd defend himself by saying he was "just breathing"... but now I see it's ME not him. But what experience would've triggered that?

>

>

>

> �I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and�

> just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151.�

> I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights.....

>

> Check it out.

>

> Mike

>

>

> http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

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[Guest guest]

I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone” with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . . From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of LawrenceSent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PMTo: soundsensitivity Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151. I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights..... Check it out. Mike http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

[Guest guest]

Well as I've said before zero trauma here so my focus is on research to get the the root of this nuerological disorder. Heidi Sent from my iPhone

I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone†with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . . From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of LawrenceSent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PMTo: soundsensitivity Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151. I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights..... Check it out. Mike http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

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Hi Heidi,I don't think that trauma always needs to be in the form of parental abuse, bad birth or the like. I think some traumas can be seemingly benign but have an effect. Some I believe we may not even be aware of consciously.Just my somewhat radical opinion based on years of researching this stuff and going to therapies that take you back to birth and earlier. I had my fair share of physical and emotional trauma, but I am not sure what , if any, played a role in the Misophonia. Jury is still out for me.Mike To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

Well as I've said before zero trauma here so my focus is on research to get the the root of this nuerological disorder. Heidi Sent from my iPhone

I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone†with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . . From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of LawrenceSent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PMTo:

soundsensitivity Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151. I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights..... Check it out. Mike http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike,We'll have to agree to disagree, I just don't think a benign trauma is going to cause a neurological disorder. That's my opinion anyway.Heidi

Hi Heidi,I don't think that trauma always needs to be in the form of parental abuse, bad birth or the like. I think some traumas can be seemingly benign but have an effect. Some I believe we may not even be aware of consciously.Just my somewhat radical opinion based on years of researching this stuff and going to therapies that take you back to birth and earlier. I had my fair share of physical and emotional trauma, but I am not sure what , if any, played a role in the Misophonia. Jury is still out for me.Mike To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

Well as I've said before zero trauma here so my focus is on research to get the the root of this nuerological disorder. Heidi Sent from my iPhone

I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone” with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . . From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of LawrenceSent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PMTo:

soundsensitivity Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151. I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights..... Check it out. Mike http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

[Guest guest]

Heidi,I said "seemingly benign" , like an injury to a fetus in the womb. But it may not have anything to do with Misophonia. With all that I have read experienced, I still have no idea where this crazy thing comes from, but at this point I wouldn't rule anything out. Logical or illogical. I think whoever figures this out will need an open mind. I hope NFB does the job. It's one thing to understand why we have this, but another, to treat and cure it. Good luck with your NFB. Mike To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 7:56 PM Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

Hi Mike,We'll have to agree to disagree, I just don't think a benign trauma is going to cause a neurological disorder. That's my opinion anyway.Heidi

Hi Heidi,I don't think that trauma always needs to be in the form of parental abuse, bad birth or the like. I think some traumas can be seemingly benign but have an effect. Some I believe we may not even be aware of consciously.Just my somewhat radical opinion based on years of researching this stuff and going to therapies that take you back to birth and earlier. I had my fair share of physical and emotional trauma, but I am not sure what , if any, played a role in the Misophonia. Jury is still out for me.Mike To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

Well as I've said before zero trauma here so my focus is on research to get the the root of this nuerological disorder. Heidi Sent from my iPhone

I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone†with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . . From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of LawrenceSent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PMTo:

soundsensitivity Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man

and just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151. I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights..... Check it out. Mike http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

[Guest guest]

For quite some time now I have had the opinion, based on the knowledge that I have , that most, if not all , irrational human aberrations have their origins is some physical, emotional or other trauma. Just my opinion at present. I think that our "wires" get crossed and our chemicals get out of balance in reaction to these traumas. I also think the mind and the body work in concert. Even if we know or think we know where a problem started, it is of little use in undoing the damage. It seems to me that so much of these problems work on a deeper, and often subconscious level, making it difficult to treat. I hope we can get there with this problem. I will have to look into PTSD a little more. Do they have any effective treatments that you know

of?Mike To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:40 PM Subject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone†with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . . From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of LawrenceSent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PMTo: soundsensitivity Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other

sensitivities! I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145,

olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151. I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights..... Check it out. Mike http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike and Everyone,

I've often thought about this too. Please see the following website from the

US Dept of Health (there are many other sites that talk about childhood trauma

effecting the developing brain)

http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/issue_briefs/brain_development/effects.cfm#abus\

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I feel we should be open minded about all possible causes of Misophonia. Maybe

there are a variety of causes, not just one. The research can't come soon

enough.

Regards

Elaine

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> For quite some time now I have had the opinion, based on the knowledge that I

have , that most, if not all , irrational human aberrations have their origins

is some physical, emotional or other trauma. Just my 

> opinion at present. I think that our " wires " get crossed and our chemicals get

out of balance in reaction to these traumas. I also think the mind and the body

work in concert. Even if we know or think we know 

> where a problem started, it is of little use in undoing the damage. It seems

to me that so much of these problems work on a deeper, and often subconscious

level, making it difficult to treat. 

> I hope we can get there with this problem. 

>

> I will have to look into PTSD a little more. Do they have any effective

treatments that you know of?

>

> Mike

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>  

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> To: Soundsensitivity

> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:40 PM

> Subject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other

sensitivities!

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> I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people,

and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD.  I’ve read

that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undoneâ€

with specialized PTSD treatment.  Might be worth looking into the details. . .

>  

> From:Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Lawrence

> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PM

> To: soundsensitivity

> Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other

sensitivities!

>  

>  

>  

>  I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self

Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or

feelings you might have regarding the man and 

> just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and

other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and

personal emotion 151. 

> I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of

all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other

stimuli, touch,smells, sights.....

>  

> Check it out.

>  

> Mike

>  

>  

>

http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+diane\

tics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%2\

0hearing%20dianetics & f=false

>

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My own opinion of this disorder is that it is a primal instinct that has been passed down to me from my "caveman" ancestors.I interpret these certain sounds as threats that demand action in order to protect my sense of well being.It gets worse with aging as we become more vulnerable to the "younger crowd" trying to take over in our place. I have also found it interesting that if someone tickles me.....I cannot control myself and be careful not to hurt them or hit them in the face. It is an involuntary reaction. The chewing sights & sounds (especially gum for me), cause this involuntary reaction. My grandmother suffered from this. My mother, younger brother along with me have it. One of my daughters has it, and one of my granddaughters has this. I feel so sorry that so many suffer from this...but it is nice not to be alone, too. To: Soundsensitivity From: michael.lawrence57@...Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 03:22:20 -0700Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

For quite some time now I have had the opinion, based on the knowledge that I have , that most, if not all , irrational human aberrations have their origins is some physical, emotional or other trauma. Just my opinion at present. I think that our "wires" get crossed and our chemicals get out of balance in reaction to these traumas. I also think the mind and the body work in concert. Even if we know or think we know where a problem started, it is of little use in undoing the damage. It seems to me that so much of these problems work on a deeper, and often subconscious level, making it difficult to treat. I hope we can get there with this problem. I will have to look into PTSD a little more. Do they have any effective treatments that you know

of?Mike To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:40 PM Subject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone” with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . . From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of LawrenceSent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PMTo: soundsensitivity Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other

sensitivities! I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145,

olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151. I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights..... Check it out. Mike http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

[Guest guest]

Interesting insight! I like it. You mean that cavemen had Misophonia too and it has been going on all this time? Yikes!I bet those dinosaur bones were noisy:)I believe that fear is behind this. A fear that comes when our survival or well being at least is threatened in some way. To: Soundsensitivity <soundsensitivity > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:22 AM Subject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

My own opinion of this disorder is that it is a primal instinct that has been passed down to me from my "caveman" ancestors.I interpret these certain sounds as threats that demand action in order to protect my sense of well being.It gets worse with aging as we become more vulnerable to the "younger crowd" trying to take over in our place. I have also found it interesting that if someone tickles me.....I cannot control myself and be careful not to hurt them or hit them in the face. It is an involuntary reaction. The chewing sights & sounds (especially gum for me), cause this involuntary reaction. My grandmother suffered from this. My mother, younger brother along with me have it. One of my daughters has it, and one of my granddaughters has this. I feel so sorry that so many suffer from this...but it is nice not to be alone, too. To: Soundsensitivity From: michael.lawrence57@...Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 03:22:20 -0700Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

For quite some time now I have had the opinion, based on the knowledge that I have , that most, if not all , irrational human aberrations have their origins is some physical, emotional or other trauma. Just my opinion at present. I think that our "wires" get crossed and our chemicals get out of balance in reaction to these traumas. I also think the mind and the body work in concert. Even if we know or think we know where a problem started, it is of little use in undoing the damage. It seems to me that so much of these problems work on a deeper, and often subconscious level, making it difficult to treat. I hope we can get there with this problem. I will have to look into PTSD a little more. Do they have any effective treatments that you

know

of?Mike To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:40 PM Subject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone†with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . . From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of LawrenceSent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PMTo:

soundsensitivity Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other

sensitivities! I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and just read what he is

saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145,

olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151. I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights..... Check it out. Mike http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

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Great article!Here is a quote that I would like to comment on.Altered brain development in children who have been maltreated may be the result of their brains adapting to their negative environment. If a child lives in a threatening, chaotic world, the child's brain may be hyperalert for danger because survival may depend on it. But if this environment persists, and the child's brain is focused on developing and strengthening its strategies for survival, other strategies may not develop as fully. The result may be a child who

has difficulty functioning when presented with a world of kindness, nurturing, and stimulation.I highlighted the point that stood out for me. I think we are all hyper alert to our environments. And we are because for some reason we need or needed to protect ourselves from threats either real or perceived. Even if the present environment only reminded our primal brains that there was a treat of some sort to our survival. Just my opinion at this time and always subject to change.Mike To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:15 AM Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

Hi Mike and Everyone,

I've often thought about this too. Please see the following website from the US Dept of Health (there are many other sites that talk about childhood trauma effecting the developing brain)

http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/issue_briefs/brain_development/effects.cfm#abuse

I feel we should be open minded about all possible causes of Misophonia. Maybe there are a variety of causes, not just one. The research can't come soon enough.

Regards

Elaine

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>

> For quite some time now I have had the opinion, based on the knowledge that I have , that most, if not all , irrational human aberrations have their origins is some physical, emotional or other trauma. Just my

> opinion at present. I think that our "wires" get crossed and our chemicals get out of balance in reaction to these traumas. I also think the mind and the body work in concert. Even if we know or think we know

> where a problem started, it is of little use in undoing the damage. It seems to me that so much of these problems work on a deeper, and often subconscious level, making it difficult to treat.

> I hope we can get there with this problem.

>

> I will have to look into PTSD a little more. Do they have any effective treatments that you know of?

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Soundsensitivity

> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:40 PM

> Subject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

>

>

>

> I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone†with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . .

>

> From:Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Lawrence

> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PM

> To: soundsensitivity

> Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

>

>

>

> I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and

> just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151.

> I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights.....

>

> Check it out.

>

> Mike

>

>

> http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

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My son, who is 9, has never had any trauma as far as I am aware. We are a very

loving family and he was rarely with babysitters. He was born with some anxiety.

He never trusted strangers, would not let me leave his side and it took a while

for him to be OK with going to pre school. He just wasn't the kind of child who

trusted that everything was going to be ok though. He is now very popular and

outgoing, and competitive. Even a bit perfectionistic. He is still not usually

interested in doing things that are unfamiliar. I have frequently wondered if

he had some past life trauma. Not sure I believe in that, but he has made me

wonder. When he was a little 2 or 3, he would be home and say " I want to go

home. " And I would say, 'you are home.'

I was a little bit nervous as a child too - I remember not wanting to go to

school. I think his 'anxiety' could be genetic. I do think it possible that

his anxiety morphed into the misophonia. He was about 7 when it happened.

a.

>

> For quite some time now I have had the opinion, based on the knowledge that I

have , that most, if not all , irrational human aberrations have their origins

is some physical, emotional or other trauma. Just my 

> opinion at present. I think that our " wires " get crossed and our chemicals get

out of balance in reaction to these traumas. I also think the mind and the body

work in concert. Even if we know or think we know 

> where a problem started, it is of little use in undoing the damage. It seems

to me that so much of these problems work on a deeper, and often subconscious

level, making it difficult to treat. 

> I hope we can get there with this problem. 

>

> I will have to look into PTSD a little more. Do they have any effective

treatments that you know of?

>

> Mike

>  

>  

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Soundsensitivity

> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:40 PM

> Subject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other

sensitivities!

>

>

>  

> I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people,

and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD.  I’ve read

that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undoneâ€

with specialized PTSD treatment.  Might be worth looking into the details. . .

>  

> From:Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Lawrence

> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PM

> To: soundsensitivity

> Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other

sensitivities!

>  

>  

>  

>  I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self

Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or

feelings you might have regarding the man and 

> just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and

other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and

personal emotion 151. 

> I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of

all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other

stimuli, touch,smells, sights.....

>  

> Check it out.

>  

> Mike

>  

>  

>

http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+diane\

tics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%2\

0hearing%20dianetics & f=false

>

[Guest guest]

Anne,It is interesting that you mention past lives. I am not decided on that either it seems to go against my religious beliefs and I did not want to get into it on this site. This stuff is controversial enough!But our genes seem to carry the experiences of our ancestors and may pass fears etc. on to the next generation. This has been shown in many studies. Survival of the species. It may explain a lot. And isn't Misophonia VERY genetic? Not that it is a good thing. I fear I am getting beyond the scope of this site. But I think that there may be more to this than meets the eye and may rattle some just to think about or discuss here. But if others are so inclined, we should go for it. Most of us here tend to be on the sensitive side here so I edit some of my thoughts.I am myself sensitive but not to ideas that seem different. Most great ideas are very different at first because they upset the status quo. MikeSent from my iPad

My son, who is 9, has never had any trauma as far as I am aware. We are a very loving family and he was rarely with babysitters. He was born with some anxiety. He never trusted strangers, would not let me leave his side and it took a while for him to be OK with going to pre school. He just wasn't the kind of child who trusted that everything was going to be ok though. He is now very popular and outgoing, and competitive. Even a bit perfectionistic. He is still not usually interested in doing things that are unfamiliar. I have frequently wondered if he had some past life trauma. Not sure I believe in that, but he has made me wonder. When he was a little 2 or 3, he would be home and say "I want to go home." And I would say, 'you are home.'

I was a little bit nervous as a child too - I remember not wanting to go to school. I think his 'anxiety' could be genetic. I do think it possible that his anxiety morphed into the misophonia. He was about 7 when it happened.

a.

>

> For quite some time now I have had the opinion, based on the knowledge that I have , that most, if not all , irrational human aberrations have their origins is some physical, emotional or other trauma. Just myÂ

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> I hope we can get there with this problem.Â

>

> I will have to look into PTSD a little more. Do they have any effective treatments that you know of?

>

> Mike

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>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Soundsensitivity

> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:40 PM

> Subject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

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> Â

> I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone†with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . .

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> From:Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Lawrence

> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PM

> To: soundsensitivity

> Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

> Â

> Â

> Â

> Â I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man andÂ

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> I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights.....

> Â

> Check it out.

> Â

> Mike

> Â

> Â

> http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

>

[Guest guest]

Mike & Regarding PTSD mentioned yesterday in relation to trauma and Misophonia, Brainwave Optimization is a therapy that’s supposed to be effective. It has been so successful that the military is doing its own trials on this technology. Even though I cannot confirm positive results from my own experience, I want others to be aware of this option. (I have Misophonia and Sensory Processing Disorder which affects all senses—a nightmare since I was 7 and getting worse).Hope this information is helpful to someone.http://www.brainstatetech.com/#Colleen

[Guest guest]

Hi Colleen, Brainwave Optimization may be what I was thinking of when I said brain changes from PTSD might be able to be “undone”. I knew I had read about it, but at that moment could not remember any details. Thank you for this information. Maybe we can follow the military’s trials’ results and see if this could be helpful (keeping in mind that PTSD is not necessarily the cause of Misophonia for everyone). From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Colleen HeringSent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:51 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! Mike & Regarding PTSD mentioned yesterday in relation to trauma and Misophonia, Brainwave Optimization is a therapy that’s supposed to be effective. It has been so successful that the military is doing its own trials on this technology. Even though I cannot confirm positive results from my own experience, I want others to be aware of this option. (I have Misophonia and Sensory Processing Disorder which affects all senses—a nightmare since I was 7 and getting worse).Hope this information is helpful to someone.http://www.brainstatetech.com/#Colleen

[Guest guest]

I have done Brainwave Optimization. I live in sdale, AZ, which is the world headquarters for them. There are 120 offices worldwide. It has helped my sleep immensely. Not yet any change in the Miso/4S issues. I plan to do more sessions.They have had great success with PTSD. Very nice people and professional organization. Mike From: Cummings

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:07 PM Subject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

Hi Colleen, Brainwave Optimization may be what I was thinking of when I said brain changes from PTSD might be able to be “undoneâ€. I knew I had read about it, but at that moment could not remember any details. Thank you for this information. Maybe we can follow the military’s trials’ results and see if this could be helpful (keeping in mind that PTSD is not necessarily the cause of Misophonia for everyone). From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Colleen HeringSent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:51 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! Mike & Regarding PTSD mentioned yesterday in relation to trauma and Misophonia, Brainwave Optimization is a therapy that’s supposed to be effective. It has been so successful that the military is doing its own trials on this technology. Even

though I cannot confirm positive results from my own experience, I want others to be aware of this option. (I have Misophonia and Sensory Processing Disorder which affects all senses—a nightmare since I was 7 and getting worse).Hope this information is helpful to someone.http://www.brainstatetech.com/Colleen

[Guest guest]

I actually had already copied the quote below and was going to post it, but saw that you already had.  It’s very interesting!  From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of LawrenceSent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:55 AMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! Great article! Here is a quote that I would like to comment on. Altered brain development in children who have been maltreated may be the result of their brains adapting to their negative environment. If a child lives in a threatening, chaotic world, the child's brain may be hyperalert for danger because survival may depend on it. But if this environment persists, and the child's brain is focused on developing and strengthening its strategies for survival, other strategies may not develop as fully. The result may be a child who has difficulty functioning when presented with a world of kindness, nurturing, and stimulation. I highlighted the point that stood out for me. I think we are all hyper alert to our environments. And we are because for some reason we need or needed to protect ourselves from threats either real or perceived. Even if the present environment only reminded our primal brains that there was a treat of some sort to our survival. Just my opinion at this time and always subject to change. Mike To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! Hi Mike and Everyone,I've often thought about this too. Please see the following website from the US Dept of Health (there are many other sites that talk about childhood trauma effecting the developing brain)http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/issue_briefs/brain_development/effects.cfm#abuseI feel we should be open minded about all possible causes of Misophonia. Maybe there are a variety of causes, not just one. The research can't come soon enough.RegardsElaine->> For quite some time now I have had the opinion, based on the knowledge that I have , that most, if not all , irrational human aberrations have their origins is some physical, emotional or other trauma. Just my > opinion at present. I think that our " wires " get crossed and our chemicals get out of balance in reaction to these traumas. I also think the mind and the body work in concert. Even if we know or think we know > where a problem started, it is of little use in undoing the damage. It seems to me that so much of these problems work on a deeper, and often subconscious level, making it difficult to treat. > I hope we can get there with this problem. > > I will have to look into PTSD a little more. Do they have any effective treatments that you know of?> > Mike> > > > > ________________________________> > To: Soundsensitivity > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:40 PM> Subject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!> > > > I was recently thinking this might be the case also, at least for some people, and that led me to think about treatment specifically for PTSD. I’ve read that trauma can create changes in the brain that can sometimes be “undone†with specialized PTSD treatment. Might be worth looking into the details. . .> > From:Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Lawrence> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:10 PM> To: soundsensitivity > Subject: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!> > > > I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and > just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138, and personal emotion 151. > I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights.....> > Check it out.> > Mike> > > http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false>

[Guest guest]

Maybe it can help those whose Misophonia might be caused by PTSD (if that is in fact a cause), and perhaps it might help with additional sessions even if PTSD is not the cause.  Please keep us posted on your progress (I know you already would have).  Even if it helps only with sleep, that might indirectly help those who are loosing sleep because of Miso and need any additional sleep they can get (for both health and to have more energy to cope).  There’s hope . . . From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of LawrenceSent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:13 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! I have done Brainwave Optimization. I live in sdale, AZ, which is the world headquarters for them. There are 120 offices worldwide. It has helped my sleep immensely. Not yet any change in the Miso/4S issues. I plan to do more sessions.They have had great success with PTSD. Very nice people and professional organization. Mike To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:07 PMSubject: RE: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! Hi Colleen, Brainwave Optimization may be what I was thinking of when I said brain changes from PTSD might be able to be “undoneâ€. I knew I had read about it, but at that moment could not remember any details. Thank you for this information. Maybe we can follow the military’s trials’ results and see if this could be helpful (keeping in mind that PTSD is not necessarily the cause of Misophonia for everyone). From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Colleen HeringSent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:51 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities! Mike & Regarding PTSD mentioned yesterday in relation to trauma and Misophonia, Brainwave Optimization is a therapy that’s supposed to be effective. It has been so successful that the military is doing its own trials on this technology. Even though I cannot confirm positive results from my own experience, I want others to be aware of this option. (I have Misophonia and Sensory Processing Disorder which affects all senses—a nightmare since I was 7 and getting worse).Hope this information is helpful to someone.http://www.brainstatetech.com/Colleen

[Guest guest]

I didn't sense sarcasm, at all. Just thinking... out loud... for lack of a

better term.

> >

> >

> >

> > �I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book

, Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts

or feelings you might have regarding the man and�

> > just read what he is saying about how people react to sound, touch, smell

and other emotions. Scroll down to sound on page 132, touch 145, olfactory 138,

and personal emotion 151.�

> > I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of

all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other

stimuli, touch,smells, sights.....

> >

> > Check it out.

> >

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+diane\

tics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%2\

0hearing%20dianetics & f=false

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Then I apologize . I misunderstood your tone and intention. I was guardedly cautious putting anything out there by L Ron Hubbard. But he has some very brilliant ideas from what I can gather.Mike To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:41 AM Subject: Re: Interesting insights into sound and other sensitivities!

I didn't sense sarcasm, at all. Just thinking... out loud... for lack of a better term.

> >

> >

> >

> > �I found this information while doing some research. It is from a book , Self Analysis, by L. Ron Hubbard. Just put aside, for a moment ,any thoughts or feelings you might have regarding the man and�

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> > I have always felt that fear and some past trauma is somehow at the root of all this. Most of us are not just sound sensitive but also sensitive to other stimuli, touch,smells, sights.....

> >

> > Check it out.

> >

> > Mike

> >

> >

> > http://books.google.com/books?id=QBO40d7vMX0C & pg=PA133 & dq=Extended+hearing+dianetics & hl=en & sa=X & ei=14O5T86yBKGtsQKd8PSKDA & ved=0CFMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage & q=Extended%20hearing%20dianetics & f=false

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