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*Hugs* That is rough! It doesn't seem right that they could fire you over saying that. I'm sorry they were treating you like that. Thankfully i've never had a work situation where a situation like that could happen. To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 4:57 PM Subject:

Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too

quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...

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Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your

situation.

Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you

to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired

into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.

Chin up if you can,

---- " lindsey.wild@... " wrote:

> Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so

they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest

to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of

working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping

and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said

something along the lines of " do you really need to eat that so loudly " and he

got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved

HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I

advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know

about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever

have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never

threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining

about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said " we have noticed

you aren't yourself and not the person we hired. " I burst into tears because

they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't

understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to

help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I

have no one else to talk to...

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You just can't fix "stupid." I work for a hospice agency as an RN, and they're fussing at me because I took two months off work to care for my dying father who was just buried yesterday. 4 weeks of that was time without pay, and I'm negative 96 hours of paid time off now, and am scheduled to work 48 hours in the next 4 days. I've only been in town again for an hour, spent the last 12 hours closing up my dad's house and packing up 2 months worth of my stuff to lug back home. My stupid supervisor calls me at 8am this morning (I didn't answer the phone) 12 hours before my shift starts to schedule an appt for me to come in for my annual evaluation.

I understand your frustration with a boss whose brother has misophonia - it's just like working for a hospice that doesn't understand death and grief!!! My sister works for a bank and gets all the time off she needs, but does she stick around and help me close up the house? No, she hightails it out of town as soon as the funeral's over so she can take Fri off work and have a nice long relaxing weekend with her family to recuperate. She also celebrated Mem. Day weekend at home with her family while I planned the funeral, including writing the sermon and arranging for special music. And when I tried to explain misophonia to her, she just googled it to try to find reasons to NOT believe it's a real condition.

Big hugs to you!

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 4:57 PMSubject: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what

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Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with

headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really

angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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I'm very sorry to hear about your father. I am also sorry you had to endure all of that on your own. I know exactly what that is like. I do everything for everyone, and get nothing but ridicule and criticism in return. Isnt it wonderful? Good luck with your shifts! I hope they are easy and fly by. Thank you very much for responding to my situation!

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:30 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

You just can't fix "stupid." I work for a hospice agency as an RN, and they're fussing at me because I took two months off work to care for my dying father who was just buried yesterday. 4 weeks of that was time without pay, and I'm negative 96 hours of paid time off now, and am scheduled to work 48 hours in the next 4 days. I've only been in town again for an hour, spent the last 12 hours closing up my dad's house and packing up 2 months worth of my stuff to lug back home. My stupid supervisor calls me at 8am this morning (I didn't answer the phone) 12 hours before my shift starts to schedule an appt for me to come in for my annual evaluation.

I understand your frustration with a boss whose brother has misophonia - it's just like working for a hospice that doesn't understand death and grief!!! My sister works for a bank and gets all the time off she needs, but does she stick around and help me close up the house? No, she hightails it out of town as soon as the funeral's over so she can take Fri off work and have a nice long relaxing weekend with her family to recuperate. She also celebrated Mem. Day weekend at home with her family while I planned the funeral, including writing the sermon and arranging for special music. And when I tried to explain misophonia to her, she just googled it to try to find reasons to NOT believe it's a real condition.

Big hugs to you!

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 4:57 PMSubject: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what

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One suggestion is to go get a diagnosis of hyperacusis and/or ear pain, even

though that is not what you have. That way they will have to accommodate your

disability. If they fire you, you have grounds for a discrimination suit.

> > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so

they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest

to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of

working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping

and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said

something along the lines of " do you really need to eat that so loudly " and he

got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved

HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I

advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know

about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever

have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never

threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining

about me being too quiet at

> my desk...too distant. They said " we have noticed you aren't yourself and not

the person we hired. " I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My

bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am

just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so

frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk

to...

> >

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Thanks so much! I appreciate the information. I will search for a doctor and see what I can do from there. :)

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 11:15 AMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

One suggestion is to go get a diagnosis of hyperacusis and/or ear pain, even though that is not what you have. That way they will have to accommodate your disability. If they fire you, you have grounds for a discrimination suit. > > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I

have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at> my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...> >>

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It sounds like you’ve tried a lot of things to accommodate a workplace that is - how can I put this delicately – unsupportive?

Before I give up, let me describe what I have in mind: noise-cancelling earphones that play nothing but your phone. Or, they could play brown noise with a volume control if your “unsupportive†boss can accept that.

I’m engineer and I could design such a thing for free. I can even build your prototype for free, but you’d have to get the headphones from Best Buy. Interested?

Anyone besides Lindsey need one?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 5:49 AM

To: ; Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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Hi ,I live next to a major hospital. Last year (May 2011) Hydro changed the power lines running along our side street from low voltage to medium voltage in order to meet the demands of the hospital. This winter, I could hear a constant humming but I was unable to pinpoint where it came from.I spoke to my neighbors, some of who heard a similar sound -it sounds like a truck with an idle engine running. It drove me absolutely crazy. It was worse during very cold weather. I spoke to someone at the hospital - very uncooperative. I called the city; they had an inspector come into the house but the city felt that the noise wasn't loud enough.I

decided to speak to all of the neighbors living along our side street. Some heard, it others didn't. I had my neighbors sign a petition and I went to a municipal meeting where I brought up the issue and my municipal area city councilor decided to "listen".Since February, the file has been tossed from the hospital back to Hydro, each blaming the other. The hospital denies changing motors or generators and Hydro says it can't come from them. In the meantime, I'm terrified of reliving the hell that I lived through this winter. (The noise is very low during warm weather). I think that the noise bothers me a lot more than others, although others have mentioned that it is disturbing. So far, I'm the only one involved in this; the other neighbors don't want to get involved.In the meantime, however; I ordered custom made

musician's earplugs with a 25 dcbl. I have no idea whether earplugs exist that can muffle just the motor sound. The technician that I ordered these earplugs from mentioned that these were the best for me but <i have no idea about earplugs. Also, to my surprise, neither one of the 2 technicians had ever heard of misophonia!Could you please give me some advice?Thanks To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:18:11 PM Subject:

Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

It sounds like you’ve tried a lot of things to accommodate a workplace that is - how can I put this delicately – unsupportive?

Before I give up, let me describe what I have in mind: noise-cancelling earphones that play nothing but your phone. Or, they could play brown noise with a volume control if your “unsupportive†boss can accept that.

I’m engineer and I could design such a thing for free. I can even build your prototype for free, but you’d have to get the headphones from Best Buy. Interested?

Anyone besides Lindsey need one?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 5:49 AM

To: ; Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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That is extremely generous of you. It sounds like a great product, but I dont know what type of headset units we use for work. I would have to find out more information. Would it be the type that cover your entire ear? Would they have a mouth piece so I can still answer my phone calls? Also, my concern is that I am leaving here in a few months (I keep reminding myself of that daily) and I wouldn't want your efforts going to waste.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:18 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

It sounds like you’ve tried a lot of things to accommodate a workplace that is - how can I put this delicately – unsupportive?

Before I give up, let me describe what I have in mind: noise-cancelling earphones that play nothing but your phone. Or, they could play brown noise with a volume control if your “unsupportive†boss can accept that.

I’m engineer and I could design such a thing for free. I can even build your prototype for free, but you’d have to get the headphones from Best Buy. Interested?

Anyone besides Lindsey need one?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 5:49 AM

To: ; Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired

into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I

need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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Hi Margaret,

I’m impressed by your diligence...very inspiring!

Low frequency noise is hard to locate with your ears, unlike most other noises. You might try walking around until it gets louder (which would be harder in the summer). One possible source is transformer hum. They put transformers on poles, on the ground, or behind fences/walls.

I found some power line noise recordings on the internet. Do any of these sound like your noise?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_hum#Tone

<-- Warning: this one suddenly gets louder

Some noise blockers are better than others at low frequencies. A tight seal might be very important so the custom ones you ordered might be great. If the audio recordings above are similar to your noise you can run tests before winter.

I know a man who worked for a power company. I’ll see what he has to offer.

Best wishes,

From: margaret spinoso

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:33 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hi ,

I live next to a major hospital. Last year (May 2011) Hydro changed the power lines running along our side street from low voltage to medium voltage in order to meet the demands of the hospital. This winter, I could hear a constant humming but I was unable to pinpoint where it came from.

I spoke to my neighbors, some of who heard a similar sound -it sounds like a truck with an idle engine running. It drove me absolutely crazy. It was worse during very cold weather. I spoke to someone at the hospital - very uncooperative. I called the city; they had an inspector come into the house but the city felt that the noise wasn't loud enough.

I decided to speak to all of the neighbors living along our side street. Some heard, it others didn't. I had my neighbors sign a petition and I went to a municipal meeting where I brought up the issue and my municipal area city councilor decided to "listen".

Since February, the file has been tossed from the hospital back to Hydro, each blaming the other. The hospital denies changing motors or generators and Hydro says it can't come from them. In the meantime, I'm terrified of reliving the hell that I lived through this winter. (The noise is very low during warm weather). I think that the noise bothers me a lot more than others, although others have mentioned that it is disturbing. So far, I'm the only one involved in this; the other neighbors don't want to get involved.

In the meantime, however; I ordered custom made musician's earplugs with a 25 dcbl. I have no idea whether earplugs exist that can muffle just the motor sound. The technician that I ordered these earplugs from mentioned that these were the best for me but <i have no idea about earplugs. Also, to my surprise, neither one of the 2 technicians had ever heard of misophonia!Could you please give me some advice?Thanks

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:18:11 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

It sounds like you’ve tried a lot of things to accommodate a workplace that is - how can I put this delicately – unsupportive?

Before I give up, let me describe what I have in mind: noise-cancelling earphones that play nothing but your phone. Or, they could play brown noise with a volume control if your “unsupportive†boss can accept that.

I’m engineer and I could design such a thing for free. I can even build your prototype for free, but you’d have to get the headphones from Best Buy. Interested?

Anyone besides Lindsey need one?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 5:49 AM

To: ; Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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Hi Lindsey,

Please don’t worry about the waste: you can keep it until you need it next, or someone here will want it.

Fortunately, headset signals and connectors are pretty standardized. Still, the make and model of the headset and base unit would prevent any surprises.

I’d recommend buying the around-the-entire-ear noise-cancelling headphones, like you envisioned. They’re not cheap: $100-300. The mouthpiece might look funny, but I’m sure I can make something workable. The brown noise generator would be your iPod or computer.

One concern I have is the ringing of the phone so you can answer it. Does yours flash a light like mine, and is that acceptable? Or is there an adjustment on the bottom of the base unit to make it loud? Info would be helpful, even if it’s just the make and model.

Cheers,

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:20 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

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That is extremely generous of you. It sounds like a great product, but I dont know what type of headset units we use for work. I would have to find out more information. Would it be the type that cover your entire ear? Would they have a mouth piece so I can still answer my phone calls? Also, my concern is that I am leaving here in a few months (I keep reminding myself of that daily) and I wouldn't want your efforts going to waste.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:18 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

It sounds like you’ve tried a lot of things to accommodate a workplace that is - how can I put this delicately – unsupportive?

Before I give up, let me describe what I have in mind: noise-cancelling earphones that play nothing but your phone. Or, they could play brown noise with a volume control if your “unsupportive†boss can accept that.

I’m engineer and I could design such a thing for free. I can even build your prototype for free, but you’d have to get the headphones from Best Buy. Interested?

Anyone besides Lindsey need one?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 5:49 AM

To: ; Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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No guarantees, but these are very user-friendly and will likely block out more

sound than custom earplugs:

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Peltor-Optime-H10A-Earmuff/dp/B00009LI4K

Soundproof windows? Maybe there is a way of more strongly insulating your house.

Your problem is a tough one. You are remarkably fortunate that the city

councilor is listening and not blowing you off.

I suggest contacting the local paper. Be available, cooperative and prepared

with all sorts of credible publications citing the health hazards of background

noise.

> > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at

> work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying

my

> hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the

entire

> year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking,

> slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I

> said something along the lines of " do you really need to eat that so loudly "

and

> he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved

> HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I

> advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know

> about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I

ever

> have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never

> threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are

complaining

> about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said " we have noticed

> you aren't yourself and not the person we hired. " I burst into tears because

> they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't

> understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to

> help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I

> have no one else to talk to...

> >

>

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Hey !

The phone is a "Polycom," if that is any bit familiar to you...It doesnt flash, unfortunately. Its on the loudest ring right now, and I'm not sure it would penetrate the sound-blocking ear phones.

The model is: IP 330 SIP. It also says SoundPoint next to the model number...I dont know if that is pertinent information or not.

The price isn't a concern for me, as long as it will help. I'd mortgage a house, my car and my future to fix this issue (kidding, kind of).

Thanks, again!

Lindsey

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:09 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hi Lindsey,

Please don’t worry about the waste: you can keep it until you need it next, or someone here will want it.

Fortunately, headset signals and connectors are pretty standardized. Still, the make and model of the headset and base unit would prevent any surprises.

I’d recommend buying the around-the-entire-ear noise-cancelling headphones, like you envisioned. They’re not cheap: $100-300. The mouthpiece might look funny, but I’m sure I can make something workable. The brown noise generator would be your iPod or computer.

One concern I have is the ringing of the phone so you can answer it. Does yours flash a light like mine, and is that acceptable? Or is there an adjustment on the bottom of the base unit to make it loud? Info would be helpful, even if it’s just the make and model.

Cheers,

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:20 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

,

That is extremely generous of you. It sounds like a great product, but I dont know what type of headset units we use for work. I would have to find out more information. Would it be the type that cover your entire ear? Would they have a mouth piece so I can still answer my phone calls? Also, my concern is that I am leaving here in a few months (I keep reminding myself of that daily) and I wouldn't want your efforts going to waste.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:18 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

It sounds like you’ve tried a lot of things to accommodate a workplace that is - how can I put this delicately – unsupportive?

Before I give up, let me describe what I have in mind: noise-cancelling earphones that play nothing but your phone. Or, they could play brown noise with a volume control if your “unsupportive†boss can accept that.

I’m engineer and I could design such a thing for free. I can even build your prototype for free, but you’d have to get the headphones from Best Buy. Interested?

Anyone besides Lindsey need one?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 5:49 AM

To: ; Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired

into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I

need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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I bet your boss had a negative reaction, because his brother has it. It probably

touched a sore spot. His brother may have been very critical of his noises and

then having you do it triggered how he felt with his brother. I'm not saying

it's right. It's his issue. Just thought this might explain his reaction.

Sounds like you work with a bunch of insensitive people. Maybe it would be

better for you, if you worked somewhere else.

>

> Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so

they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest

to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of

working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping

and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said

something along the lines of " do you really need to eat that so loudly " and he

got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved

HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I

advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know

about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever

have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never

threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining

about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said " we have noticed

you aren't yourself and not the person we hired. " I burst into tears because

they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't

understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to

help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I

have no one else to talk to...

>

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Don't want to be discouraging, but we spent a lot of money for soundproof

windows and they did not reduce low frequency sound to the degree promised. So,

we had foam insulation sprayed into the walls to fill in any gaps in the

original insulation. That helped some, but we could still hear rumbling cars and

trucks. Sound can come through the roof and ceiling, so we installed extra

insulation and a radiant barrier in the attic. All those remedies combined have

reduced the sound, but not eliminated it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't spend the money unless you have an iron

clad guarantee that the remedy will reduce the sound by a certain decibel.

Good luck.

Colleen

> > > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at

> > work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying

my

> > hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the

entire

> > year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was

smacking,

> > slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but

I

> > said something along the lines of " do you really need to eat that so loudly "

and

> > he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved

> > HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I

> > advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't

know

> > about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I

ever

> > have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have

never

> > threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are

complaining

> > about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said " we have

noticed

> > you aren't yourself and not the person we hired. " I burst into tears because

> > they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't

> > understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way

to

> > help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I

> > have no one else to talk to...

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Lindsey,

If you wear the headset, does the phone ring in the headset earphones?

Also, the user manual shows an incoming call light in the upper right above the LCD display. Missing? Impractical?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:57 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hey !

The phone is a "Polycom," if that is any bit familiar to you...It doesnt flash, unfortunately. Its on the loudest ring right now, and I'm not sure it would penetrate the sound-blocking ear phones.

The model is: IP 330 SIP. It also says SoundPoint next to the model number...I dont know if that is pertinent information or not.

The price isn't a concern for me, as long as it will help. I'd mortgage a house, my car and my future to fix this issue (kidding, kind of).

Thanks, again!

Lindsey

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:09 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hi Lindsey,

Please don’t worry about the waste: you can keep it until you need it next, or someone here will want it.

Fortunately, headset signals and connectors are pretty standardized. Still, the make and model of the headset and base unit would prevent any surprises.

I’d recommend buying the around-the-entire-ear noise-cancelling headphones, like you envisioned. They’re not cheap: $100-300. The mouthpiece might look funny, but I’m sure I can make something workable. The brown noise generator would be your iPod or computer.

One concern I have is the ringing of the phone so you can answer it. Does yours flash a light like mine, and is that acceptable? Or is there an adjustment on the bottom of the base unit to make it loud? Info would be helpful, even if it’s just the make and model.

Cheers,

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:20 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

,

That is extremely generous of you. It sounds like a great product, but I dont know what type of headset units we use for work. I would have to find out more information. Would it be the type that cover your entire ear? Would they have a mouth piece so I can still answer my phone calls? Also, my concern is that I am leaving here in a few months (I keep reminding myself of that daily) and I wouldn't want your efforts going to waste.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:18 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

It sounds like you’ve tried a lot of things to accommodate a workplace that is - how can I put this delicately – unsupportive?

Before I give up, let me describe what I have in mind: noise-cancelling earphones that play nothing but your phone. Or, they could play brown noise with a volume control if your “unsupportive†boss can accept that.

I’m engineer and I could design such a thing for free. I can even build your prototype for free, but you’d have to get the headphones from Best Buy. Interested?

Anyone besides Lindsey need one?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 5:49 AM

To: ; Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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There is quite a large literature on this or similar nuisances -- see Wind

Turbine Syndrome (Nina Pierpont), Low Hum, etc.

Have you tried putting your hands over your ears or sticking your fingers

in your ear canals whilst you hear the sound? Does the sound get louder,

quieter, or stay the same, or does its pitch alter?

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> > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at

> work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying

my

> hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the

entire

> year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking,

> slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I

> said something along the lines of " do you really need to eat that so loudly "

and

> he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved

> HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I

> advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know

> about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I

ever

> have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never

> threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are

complaining

> about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said " we have noticed

> you aren't yourself and not the person we hired. " I burst into tears because

> they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't

> understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to

> help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I

> have no one else to talk to...

> >

>

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Hi ,The sound was very loud this winter. It's not loud enough now but wax earplugs didn't do the job this winter. I heard the hum at a lower frequency but it was still there. Also, I bought one of the loudest air purifiers that I could find and put it at max. During the nigh I used an old humidifier to drown out the hum.It's weird; I can stand the noise from a loud humidifier or air purifier but the hum bothers me immensely. In fact, it literally hurts my ears. , why are you asking me whether it becomes louder or stays the same. Do you have a guess as to what it might be?Thank-you very much for your

input.Margaret To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:00:17 PM Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

There is quite a large literature on this or similar nuisances -- see Wind Turbine Syndrome (Nina Pierpont), Low Hum, etc.

Have you tried putting your hands over your ears or sticking your fingers in your ear canals whilst you hear the sound? Does the sound get louder, quieter, or stay the same, or does its pitch alter?

*********************************************************************

> > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at

> work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my

> hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire

> year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking,

> slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I

> said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and

> he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved

> HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I

> advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know

> about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever

> have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never

> threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining

> about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed

> you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because

> they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't

> understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to

> help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I

> have no one else to talk to...

> >

>

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Thank you so much for the information . You are dead on in saying "Low frequency noise is hard to locate with your ears, unlike most other noises." Thank-you also for your encouraging words. Do you have a clue how to identify the noise? Do you know whether transformer may be put underground as I also fell a slight vibration with the hum, when it's very loud.I have tried identifying the source but have had a very hard time pinpointing the' target nuisance'. The people from Hydro have come into my house several times and wouldn't you know it - they hear nothing. The noise varies in intensity and Hydro has always come when the noise is lower. I suspect that the noise is louder when consumption is higher. My neighbors have noticed the same thing.I still can't; however, figure out where this noise comes from. I've gone as far as putting my ear against my breaker panel and the Hydro pole outside to locate this hum - no can do. I've also

walked up to the hospital generators and back to follow their sound but THAT sound dissipated when I got to my house. The noise is all over the house - in every room. A total mystery to me. It doesn't come from my house - a certified electrician inspected everything.Hydro has ruled out a transformer hum. They have; however, mentioned the possibility that the wire running from my house to the Hydro line is too short and too tight. This might therefore create a type of acoustical vibration. I question whether this is it though, since the hum was still there this winter after I shut down the main breaker panel.Insulating the windows and walls is really not an option since I just spent over 120,000 $ in renovating our home - the walls and windows were insulated re the cold weather, not noise (3 years ago).

As I already mentioned, this problem has only started this winter after the Hydro lines were changedThanks , Margaret To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:22:37 PM Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hi Margaret,

I’m impressed by your diligence...very inspiring!

Low frequency noise is hard to locate with your ears, unlike most other noises. You might try walking around until it gets louder (which would be harder in the summer). One possible source is transformer hum. They put transformers on poles, on the ground, or behind fences/walls.

I found some power line noise recordings on the internet. Do any of these sound like your noise?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_hum#Tone

<-- Warning: this one suddenly gets louder

Some noise blockers are better than others at low frequencies. A tight seal might be very important so the custom ones you ordered might be great. If the audio recordings above are similar to your noise you can run tests before winter.

I know a man who worked for a power company. I’ll see what he has to offer.

Best wishes,

From: margaret spinoso

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:33 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hi ,

I live next to a major hospital. Last year (May 2011) Hydro changed the power lines running along our side street from low voltage to medium voltage in order to meet the demands of the hospital. This winter, I could hear a constant humming but I was unable to pinpoint where it came from.

I spoke to my neighbors, some of who heard a similar sound -it sounds like a truck with an idle engine running. It drove me absolutely crazy. It was worse during very cold weather. I spoke to someone at the hospital - very uncooperative. I called the city; they had an inspector come into the house but the city felt that the noise wasn't loud enough.

I decided to speak to all of the neighbors living along our side street. Some heard, it others didn't. I had my neighbors sign a petition and I went to a municipal meeting where I brought up the issue and my municipal area city councilor decided to "listen".

Since February, the file has been tossed from the hospital back to Hydro, each blaming the other. The hospital denies changing motors or generators and Hydro says it can't come from them. In the meantime, I'm terrified of reliving the hell that I lived through this winter. (The noise is very low during warm weather). I think that the noise bothers me a lot more than others, although others have mentioned that it is disturbing. So far, I'm the only one involved in this; the other neighbors don't want to get involved.

In the meantime, however; I ordered custom made musician's earplugs with a 25 dcbl. I have no idea whether earplugs exist that can muffle just the motor sound. The technician that I ordered these earplugs from mentioned that these were the best for me but <i have no idea about earplugs. Also, to my surprise, neither one of the 2 technicians had ever heard of misophonia!Could you please give me some advice?Thanks

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:18:11 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

It sounds like you’ve tried a lot of things to accommodate a workplace that is - how can I put this delicately – unsupportive?

Before I give up, let me describe what I have in mind: noise-cancelling earphones that play nothing but your phone. Or, they could play brown noise with a volume control if your “unsupportive†boss can accept that.

I’m engineer and I could design such a thing for free. I can even build your prototype for free, but you’d have to get the headphones from Best Buy. Interested?

Anyone besides Lindsey need one?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 5:49 AM

To: ; Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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Hi Colleen, Firstly, thanks for your candid advise. We've already spent a bundle on our house. We insulated the windows and walls against the cold. Noise was not an issue when we insulated so we didn't bother. Do you know whether certain fabrics can help ie; materials that will cut a portion of the noise. I sew and could make curtains but I won't spend a fortune if they don't really work.Thanks for your input,Margaret To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 9:08:20 PM Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Don't want to be discouraging, but we spent a lot of money for soundproof windows and they did not reduce low frequency sound to the degree promised. So, we had foam insulation sprayed into the walls to fill in any gaps in the original insulation. That helped some, but we could still hear rumbling cars and trucks. Sound can come through the roof and ceiling, so we installed extra insulation and a radiant barrier in the attic. All those remedies combined have reduced the sound, but not eliminated it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't spend the money unless you have an iron clad guarantee that the remedy will reduce the sound by a certain decibel.

Good luck.

Colleen

> > > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at

> > work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my

> > hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire

> > year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking,

> > slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I

> > said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and

> > he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved

> > HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I

> > advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know

> > about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever

> > have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never

> > threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining

> > about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed

> > you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because

> > they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't

> > understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to

> > help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I

> > have no one else to talk to...

> > >

> >

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Hi,Thanks a bundle for the info.Margaret To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 8:37:59 PM Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

No guarantees, but these are very user-friendly and will likely block out more sound than custom earplugs:

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Peltor-Optime-H10A-Earmuff/dp/B00009LI4K

Soundproof windows? Maybe there is a way of more strongly insulating your house.

Your problem is a tough one. You are remarkably fortunate that the city councilor is listening and not blowing you off.

I suggest contacting the local paper. Be available, cooperative and prepared with all sorts of credible publications citing the health hazards of background noise.

> > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at

> work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my

> hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire

> year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking,

> slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I

> said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and

> he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved

> HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I

> advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know

> about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever

> have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never

> threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining

> about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed

> you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because

> they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't

> understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to

> help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I

> have no one else to talk to...

> >

>

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Hi Margaret,

The wire being too short and tight could be the problem. If the other side of the wire is physically vibrating, the wire could pull on your whole house. The vibration would depend on the hospital’s consumption, instead of yours, which would explain why the main beaker had no effect.

Counter-intuitively, the quiet Hydro pole might not rule this out. Is the sound louder inside your house?

There might be an easy way to test this theory. Ask Hydro?

Might get lucky...

From: margaret spinoso

Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:18 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Thank you so much for the information . You are dead on in saying "Low frequency noise is hard to locate with your ears, unlike most other noises." Thank-you also for your encouraging words. Do you have a clue how to identify the noise? Do you know whether transformer may be put underground as I also fell a slight vibration with the hum, when it's very loud.

I have tried identifying the source but have had a very hard time pinpointing the' target nuisance'. The people from Hydro have come into my house several times and wouldn't you know it - they hear nothing. The noise varies in intensity and Hydro has always come when the noise is lower. I suspect that the noise is louder when consumption is higher. My neighbors have noticed the same thing.

I still can't; however, figure out where this noise comes from. I've gone as far as putting my ear against my breaker panel and the Hydro pole outside to locate this hum - no can do. I've also walked up to the hospital generators and back to follow their sound but THAT sound dissipated when I got to my house. The noise is all over the house - in every room. A total mystery to me. It doesn't come from my house - a certified electrician inspected everything.

Hydro has ruled out a transformer hum. They have; however, mentioned the possibility that the wire running from my house to the Hydro line is too short and too tight. This might therefore create a type of acoustical vibration. I question whether this is it though, since the hum was still there this winter after I shut down the main breaker panel.

Insulating the windows and walls is really not an option since I just spent over 120,000 $ in renovating our home - the walls and windows were insulated re the cold weather, not noise (3 years ago). As I already mentioned, this problem has only started this winter after the Hydro lines were changed

Thanks ,

Margaret

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:22:37 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hi Margaret,

I’m impressed by your diligence...very inspiring!

Low frequency noise is hard to locate with your ears, unlike most other noises. You might try walking around until it gets louder (which would be harder in the summer). One possible source is transformer hum. They put transformers on poles, on the ground, or behind fences/walls.

I found some power line noise recordings on the internet. Do any of these sound like your noise?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_hum#Tone

<-- Warning: this one suddenly gets louder

Some noise blockers are better than others at low frequencies. A tight seal might be very important so the custom ones you ordered might be great. If the audio recordings above are similar to your noise you can run tests before winter.

I know a man who worked for a power company. I’ll see what he has to offer.

Best wishes,

From: margaret spinoso

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:33 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hi ,

I live next to a major hospital. Last year (May 2011) Hydro changed the power lines running along our side street from low voltage to medium voltage in order to meet the demands of the hospital. This winter, I could hear a constant humming but I was unable to pinpoint where it came from.

I spoke to my neighbors, some of who heard a similar sound -it sounds like a truck with an idle engine running. It drove me absolutely crazy. It was worse during very cold weather. I spoke to someone at the hospital - very uncooperative. I called the city; they had an inspector come into the house but the city felt that the noise wasn't loud enough.

I decided to speak to all of the neighbors living along our side street. Some heard, it others didn't. I had my neighbors sign a petition and I went to a municipal meeting where I brought up the issue and my municipal area city councilor decided to "listen".

Since February, the file has been tossed from the hospital back to Hydro, each blaming the other. The hospital denies changing motors or generators and Hydro says it can't come from them. In the meantime, I'm terrified of reliving the hell that I lived through this winter. (The noise is very low during warm weather). I think that the noise bothers me a lot more than others, although others have mentioned that it is disturbing. So far, I'm the only one involved in this; the other neighbors don't want to get involved.

In the meantime, however; I ordered custom made musician's earplugs with a 25 dcbl. I have no idea whether earplugs exist that can muffle just the motor sound. The technician that I ordered these earplugs from mentioned that these were the best for me but <i have no idea about earplugs. Also, to my surprise, neither one of the 2 technicians had ever heard of misophonia!Could you please give me some advice?Thanks

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:18:11 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

It sounds like you’ve tried a lot of things to accommodate a workplace that is - how can I put this delicately – unsupportive?

Before I give up, let me describe what I have in mind: noise-cancelling earphones that play nothing but your phone. Or, they could play brown noise with a volume control if your “unsupportive†boss can accept that.

I’m engineer and I could design such a thing for free. I can even build your prototype for free, but you’d have to get the headphones from Best Buy. Interested?

Anyone besides Lindsey need one?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 5:49 AM

To: ; Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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Hi ,Yes, the sound is much louder in the house while inaudible from the outside. I don' t understand the connection with the Hydro quiet pole though. Also, the sound is very loud close to windows. The connection I've been able to make is the aluminum around the windows acting as a conductor. Does that make sense to you?, I don't want to pester you with my questions. This problem has racked my nerves for the last 6 mos. I will ask Hydro.Thank you for your input,Margaret To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 7:17:09 PM Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hi Margaret,

The wire being too short and tight could be the problem. If the other side of the wire is physically vibrating, the wire could pull on your whole house. The vibration would depend on the hospital’s consumption, instead of yours, which would explain why the main beaker had no effect.

Counter-intuitively, the quiet Hydro pole might not rule this out. Is the sound louder inside your house?

There might be an easy way to test this theory. Ask Hydro?

Might get lucky...

From: margaret spinoso

Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:18 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Thank you so much for the information . You are dead on in saying "Low frequency noise is hard to locate with your ears, unlike most other noises." Thank-you also for your encouraging words. Do you have a clue how to identify the noise? Do you know whether transformer may be put underground as I also fell a slight vibration with the hum, when it's very loud.

I have tried identifying the source but have had a very hard time pinpointing the' target nuisance'. The people from Hydro have come into my house several times and wouldn't you know it - they hear nothing. The noise varies in intensity and Hydro has always come when the noise is lower. I suspect that the noise is louder when consumption is higher. My neighbors have noticed the same thing.

I still can't; however, figure out where this noise comes from. I've gone as far as putting my ear against my breaker panel and the Hydro pole outside to locate this hum - no can do. I've also walked up to the hospital generators and back to follow their sound but THAT sound dissipated when I got to my house. The noise is all over the house - in every room. A total mystery to me. It doesn't come from my house - a certified electrician inspected everything.

Hydro has ruled out a transformer hum. They have; however, mentioned the possibility that the wire running from my house to the Hydro line is too short and too tight. This might therefore create a type of acoustical vibration. I question whether this is it though, since the hum was still there this winter after I shut down the main breaker panel.

Insulating the windows and walls is really not an option since I just spent over 120,000 $ in renovating our home - the walls and windows were insulated re the cold weather, not noise (3 years ago). As I already mentioned, this problem has only started this winter after the Hydro lines were changed

Thanks ,

Margaret

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:22:37 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hi Margaret,

I’m impressed by your diligence...very inspiring!

Low frequency noise is hard to locate with your ears, unlike most other noises. You might try walking around until it gets louder (which would be harder in the summer). One possible source is transformer hum. They put transformers on poles, on the ground, or behind fences/walls.

I found some power line noise recordings on the internet. Do any of these sound like your noise?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_hum#Tone

<-- Warning: this one suddenly gets louder

Some noise blockers are better than others at low frequencies. A tight seal might be very important so the custom ones you ordered might be great. If the audio recordings above are similar to your noise you can run tests before winter.

I know a man who worked for a power company. I’ll see what he has to offer.

Best wishes,

From: margaret spinoso

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:33 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Hi ,

I live next to a major hospital. Last year (May 2011) Hydro changed the power lines running along our side street from low voltage to medium voltage in order to meet the demands of the hospital. This winter, I could hear a constant humming but I was unable to pinpoint where it came from.

I spoke to my neighbors, some of who heard a similar sound -it sounds like a truck with an idle engine running. It drove me absolutely crazy. It was worse during very cold weather. I spoke to someone at the hospital - very uncooperative. I called the city; they had an inspector come into the house but the city felt that the noise wasn't loud enough.

I decided to speak to all of the neighbors living along our side street. Some heard, it others didn't. I had my neighbors sign a petition and I went to a municipal meeting where I brought up the issue and my municipal area city councilor decided to "listen".

Since February, the file has been tossed from the hospital back to Hydro, each blaming the other. The hospital denies changing motors or generators and Hydro says it can't come from them. In the meantime, I'm terrified of reliving the hell that I lived through this winter. (The noise is very low during warm weather). I think that the noise bothers me a lot more than others, although others have mentioned that it is disturbing. So far, I'm the only one involved in this; the other neighbors don't want to get involved.

In the meantime, however; I ordered custom made musician's earplugs with a 25 dcbl. I have no idea whether earplugs exist that can muffle just the motor sound. The technician that I ordered these earplugs from mentioned that these were the best for me but <i have no idea about earplugs. Also, to my surprise, neither one of the 2 technicians had ever heard of misophonia!Could you please give me some advice?Thanks

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:18:11 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

It sounds like you’ve tried a lot of things to accommodate a workplace that is - how can I put this delicately – unsupportive?

Before I give up, let me describe what I have in mind: noise-cancelling earphones that play nothing but your phone. Or, they could play brown noise with a volume control if your “unsupportive†boss can accept that.

I’m engineer and I could design such a thing for free. I can even build your prototype for free, but you’d have to get the headphones from Best Buy. Interested?

Anyone besides Lindsey need one?

From: Lindsey Wild

Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 5:49 AM

To: ; Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...

Unfortunately, they have eliminated everything I can do as a temporary fix. I tried reading, to get my mind focused on something else and they ban that. I tried drawing and apparently I wasnt focused on my job enough. I am bringing my ipod to work every day and sneaking it in one ear (the only ear my boss cant see), but I have to answer calls all day and that ear piece doesnt go inside the ear, nor cover the ear, so I hear everything still. Its sad that I look forward to working every Saturday due to the fact that I am the only person in the office.

Thank you all for your sympathy.

To: Soundsensitivity Cc: "lindsey.wild@..." Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 6:47 PMSubject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun intended...Our hearts go out to you, Lindsey. No one should should have to be in your situation.Can you perform your work with headphones and earplugs? If so, we can guide you to immediate relief. Is answering the phone an obstacle? That could be wired into your headphones if you can tolerate a delay.Chin up if you can,---- "lindsey.wild@..." wrote: > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses office at work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my desk, trying my hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in the entire year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was smacking, slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was eating, but I said something along the lines of "do you really need to eat that so loudly" and he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they involved HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a doctor. I advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area don't know about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me that if I ever have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I have never threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are complaining about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said "we have noticed you aren't yourself and not the person we hired." I burst into tears because they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL doesn't understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find some way to help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening, everyone. I have no one else to talk to...>

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This is probably unrelated, but my neighbor has greenhouses (organic

Chinese herbs) about 100 feet from my house. In the winter there are

heaters with fans running that cause a low frequency hum just like a

fridge running. It's like it vibrates the whole house. It is most

noticeable on the coldest nights I think because the fans might run the

whole night. It's hard to hear outside because it is more of a vibration.

Also, it does seem worse on the 2nd floor. I'm not sure if you have might

be something similar. FYI - it does make me crazy sometimes.

At 02:48 PM 6/3/2012, you wrote:

Hi ,

The sound was very loud this winter. It's not loud enough now but

wax earplugs didn't do the job this winter. I heard the hum at a

lower frequency but it was still there. Also, I bought one of the

loudest air purifiers that I could find and put it at max. During

the nigh I used an old humidifier to drown out the hum.

It's weird; I can stand the noise from a loud humidifier or air purifier

but the hum bothers me immensely. In fact, it literally hurts my

ears. , why are you asking me whether it becomes louder or

stays the same. Do you have a guess as to what it might

be?

Thank-you very much for your input.

Margaret

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:00:17 PM

Subject: Re: Need an ear to listen, no pun

intended...

There is quite a large literature on this or similar nuisances -- see

Wind Turbine Syndrome (Nina Pierpont), Low Hum, etc.

Have you tried putting your hands over your ears or sticking your fingers

in your ear canals whilst you hear the sound? Does the sound get louder,

quieter, or stay the same, or does its pitch alter?

*********************************************************************

> > Today is the SECOND time I have been called into my bosses

office at

> work so they can criticize me and ridicule me for sitting at my

desk, trying my

> hardest to internalize my rage and anger. I have had one outburst in

the entire

> year of working here and it happened to have been today. My boss was

smacking,

> slurping and chomping all at once. I don't even know what he was

eating, but I

> said something along the lines of " do you really need to eat

that so loudly " and

> he got really angry. Everyone started attacking me and then they

involved

> HR...again! They told me I need mental help and suggested I call a

doctor. I

> advised them there is no cure, and unfortunately doctors in my area

don't know

> about Misophonia yet. They wouldn't believe me. They just told me

that if I ever

> have an outburst or threaten anyone, I will be fired on the spot. I

have never

> threatened...it just isn't in my nature. I was told my coworkers are

complaining

> about me being too quiet at my desk...too distant. They said

" we have noticed

> you aren't yourself and not the person we hired. " I burst into

tears because

> they just dont get it. My bosses brother has Misophonia and he STILL

doesn't

> understand. He tells me I am just being negative and I should find

some way to

> help myself. I am so frustrated right now. Thanks for listening,

everyone. I

> have no one else to talk to...

> >

>

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