Guest guest Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 > I'll probably never change the mind of someone who thinks vaccines cause autism, just like folks who are convinced ghosts are real, 9/11 was a government conspiracy, or whatever other topic people can get really passionate about, but when someone goes as far as saying vaccines are useless, I have to speak up. I know exactly how you feel, Tammy. When someone says things that completely fly in the face of one's personal experience, logic, knowledge and beliefs, it's very frustrating and difficult not to speak up, even when it likely won't change anyone's mind. There's always hope, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 I am a lurker here but I wanted to post this article that I just read today. I'm not getting in the middle of this conversation I just wanted to give information. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/04/17/aps-on-epidemic-au\ tism-spectrum-diseases.aspx?e_cid=20120417_DNL_art_1 Amy > ** > > > > > > > I'll probably never change the mind of someone who thinks vaccines cause > autism, just like folks who are convinced ghosts are real, 9/11 was a > government conspiracy, or whatever other topic people can get really > passionate about, but when someone goes as far as saying vaccines are > useless, I have to speak up. > > I know exactly how you feel, Tammy. When someone says things that > completely fly in the face of one's personal experience, logic, knowledge > and beliefs, it's very frustrating and difficult not to speak up, even when > it likely won't change anyone's mind. There's always hope, though. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Thank you, Amy! If you like Dr. Mercola, you should check out his articles by Dr. Blaylock on this and related topics, if you haven't already seen them. Very enlightening! http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/04/01/the-dangers-of-exc\ essive-childhood-vaccinations.aspx http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/02/26/how-vaccines-can-d\ amage-your-brain.aspx > I am a lurker here but I wanted to post this article that I just read > today. I'm not getting in the middle of this conversation I just wanted to > give information. > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/04/17/aps-on-epidemic-au\ tism-spectrum-diseases.aspx?e_cid=20120417_DNL_art_1 > > > Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Thanks , I'll read them tonight. I do tend to agree with a lot of stuff Mercola says. > ** > > > Thank you, Amy! If you like Dr. Mercola, you should check out his articles > by Dr. Blaylock on this and related topics, if you haven't already > seen them. Very enlightening! > > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/04/01/the-dangers-of-exc\ essive-childhood-vaccinations.aspx > > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/02/26/how-vaccines-can-d\ amage-your-brain.aspx > > > > > > > > I am a lurker here but I wanted to post this article that I just read > > today. I'm not getting in the middle of this conversation I just wanted > to > > give information. > > > > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/04/17/aps-on-epidemic-au\ tism-spectrum-diseases.aspx?e_cid=20120417_DNL_art_1 > > > > > > Amy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Wow, that's very enlightening! I always believe that the vaccines weren't the only cause for Kendra's Autism. through my own research I figured it was a gene things and the vaccines " triggered " the Autism. I think this because my other three children are from a different father. And They Do not seem to display any autistic symptoms. Kendra's Father is 12 years my senior (30 when Kendra was conceived) and I've read on several sites that father's age may be a factor. I will keep reading all the links that go with this. How fascinating.. From: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women [mailto:Autism_in_Girls_and_Women ] On Behalf Of cathylynn2 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:07 PM To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women Subject: Re: Vaccines Thank you, Amy! If you like Dr. Mercola, you should check out his articles by Dr. Blaylock on this and related topics, if you haven't already seen them. Very enlightening! http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/04/01/the-dangers-of -excessive-childhood-vaccinations.aspx http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/02/26/how-vaccines-c an-damage-your-brain.aspx > I am a lurker here but I wanted to post this article that I just read > today. I'm not getting in the middle of this conversation I just wanted to > give information. > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/04/17/aps-on-epidemi c-autism-spectrum-diseases.aspx?e_cid=20120417_DNL_art_1 > > > Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 If 30 is advanced paternal age, then dh and I should be our dc's great grandparents! In all seriousness, I don't think our dc even stood a chance of winning the NT genetic lottery—our family tree is littered with ASD, whether forme fruste or fully apparent. On 2012-04-17, at 6:31 PM, " Scarbrough " wrote: > Wow, that's very enlightening! I always believe that the vaccines weren't > the only cause for Kendra's Autism. through my own research I figured it was > a gene things and the vaccines " triggered " the Autism. I think this because > my other three children are from a different father. And They Do not seem to > display any autistic symptoms. > > Kendra's Father is 12 years my senior (30 when Kendra was conceived) and > I've read on several sites that father's age may be a factor. I will keep > reading all the links that go with this. How fascinating.. > > From: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women > [mailto:Autism_in_Girls_and_Women ] On Behalf Of cathylynn2 > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:07 PM > To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women > Subject: Re: Vaccines > > Thank you, Amy! If you like Dr. Mercola, you should check out his articles > by Dr. Blaylock on this and related topics, if you haven't already > seen them. Very enlightening! > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/04/01/the-dangers-of > -excessive-childhood-vaccinations.aspx > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/02/26/how-vaccines-c > an-damage-your-brain.aspx > > > > > > > I am a lurker here but I wanted to post this article that I just read > > today. I'm not getting in the middle of this conversation I just wanted to > > give information. > > > > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/04/17/aps-on-epidemi > c-autism-spectrum-diseases.aspx?e_cid=20120417_DNL_art_1 > > > > > > Amy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 I am usually just a reader of this group and occasionally ask a question. I agree that arguing this debate here is useless. You will never change my mind nor I will never change your mind. I don't want to see another group I belong to become split over this discussion. All I will say is my daughter was damaged after receiving several vaccines that all contain aluminum (aluminum is in so many products and is neurotoxin as well) she tested off the chart with aluminum and her doctor and I feel that the direct injection of this toxin most definitely contributed to her autism and loss of many skills she had already mastered at a young age. I am not going to argue whether or not vaccines are good or bad for the population as a whole but as with ANY medication there are KNOWN side effects and risks. They are not 100% safe as the vaccine producers want you to believe. I could go on and on but I won't because like we both have said it is pointless to debate this here. Tina Vaccines To: " Autism_in_Girls_and_Women " > " .....vaccines are at best completely useless, have never > prevented any > disease and they cause enumerable acute and chronic health problems. " > > I guess arguing about vaccines on an autism list is about a > productive as trying to argue religion or politics at a > tavern.....but this statement really concerns me. > > > Never prevented any disease? > > So the eradication of smallpox from the world was an act of God? > What about measles? Everyone used to get it 50 years ago, and > thousands would die from it. > > Polio? Remember the braces the kids used to have to wear on > their legs and have to use a cane forever? > The list goes on and on. > > > Vaccines have saved MILLIONS of lives. > > > That is the main point I want to make - that vaccines have made > the world a better place. We shouldn't forget this. > > > I don't think vaccines caused my daughter's autism. I think > there's a tiny fraction of the population (well under 1%) who > are innately immunocompromised who could be harmed by vaccines, > but overall vaccines have done way more good than harm, and most > kids should be vaccinated. > > The rate of autism over the past 30-40 years has increased > exponentially. Vaccination rates during the same period have > stayed about the same, and have actually decreased somewhat in > recent years due to autism fears. If moms are choosing to > vaccinate less often, shouldn't this result in the autism rate > go down? The reverse is happening. Fewer vaccinations, yet > more and more autism cases...how can vaccines be the cause if > we're vaccinating less while the rate grows? > > > How many parents give their kids > all of their vaccinations? 95%? Let's say it's only 80%.....if > vaccines cause " enumerable acute and chronic health problems. " > Why are we all surrounded by so many normal healthy kids and > adults? Why isn't everyone who's getting vaccinated getting all > of these " enumerable " health problems that vaccines cause? > > > Despite the millions of dollars in research conducted trying to > prove a link between vaccines and autism exists, one has never > been found. Okay, well Wakefield said he found one, but his > research results were never reproducible within the scientific > community and he's been fully discredited for having a conflict > of interest. He lost his license to practice medicine in Britain. > > I'll probably never change the mind of someone who thinks > vaccines cause autism, just like folks who are convinced ghosts > are real, 9/11 was a government conspiracy, or whatever other > topic people can get really passionate about, but when someone > goes as far as saying vaccines are useless, I have to speak up. > > Tammy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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