Neurofeedback

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I have an appointment next week with a psychologist who does Neurofeedback.

First appointment includes testing (QEEG) and evaluation. There are

multi-session packages, so there's a little bit of a price break.

This is not Brain State Tech, which I did last year without success, but only

had 10 sessions. Because it didn't improve my SPD, insomnia or anything else,

the provider discouraged me from continuing. Didn't know then that there were

other options and that it takes many sessions. This place is cheaper and closer

to home, anyway.

I'll keep you informed of progress.

Wish me luck (or a miracle if that's what it takes...)

Colleen

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I am just talking from myself here so don't take it as truth lol I've seen many in these support groups say they don't sleep well but all of them seemed to be related specifically to sounds keeping them from sleep.I myself have no sleep problems...as I use a heavy fan to block out noises..once I am asleep I tend to stay asleep....wondering if the brain functions the same with sounds when you are asleep? Could be related but I dunno. I'd think it could definitely have some effect on sleep for some!

I have an appointment next week with a psychologist who does Neurofeedback. First appointment includes testing (QEEG) and evaluation. There are multi-session packages, so there's a little bit of a price break.

This is not Brain State Tech, which I did last year without success, but only had 10 sessions. Because it didn't improve my SPD, insomnia or anything else, the provider discouraged me from continuing. Didn't know then that there were other options and that it takes many sessions. This place is cheaper and closer to home, anyway.

I'll keep you informed of progress.

Wish me luck (or a miracle if that's what it takes...)

Colleen

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How many treatments have you done Aubrey?

I have an appointment next week with a psychologist who does Neurofeedback. First appointment includes testing (QEEG) and evaluation. There are multi-session packages, so there's a little bit of a price break.

This is not Brain State Tech, which I did last year without success, but only had 10 sessions. Because it didn't improve my SPD, insomnia or anything else, the provider discouraged me from continuing. Didn't know then that there were other options and that it takes many sessions. This place is cheaper and closer to home, anyway.

I'll keep you informed of progress.

Wish me luck (or a miracle if that's what it takes...)

Colleen

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My mother also developed insomnia after menopause - as I understand it it does

become common the older you get.

As for me, I started wearing earplugs to sleep when I lived in an apartment

where the people upstairs stomped around like elephants from 6 am till 2 am the

next night. I tried to stop using them when I moved to a single-story town

house, but after I was kept awake an entire night by a barking dog, decided to

just keep wearing them and get a good sleep.

I do have a circadian rhythm sleep disorder, which means I'm an extreme night

owl. That felt like insomnia until I discovered that if I stayed up till I was

tired, I no longer lay awake for hours but slept just fine. This is likely to be

genetic, as the gene responsible for the " extreme morning lark " opposite was

identified some years ago, and last time I checked the research literature there

was a suspected gene involved with the night owl version. However, unless the

relevant genes are nearby on a chromosome and I have a deletion in that area

that affects both, I doubt this is related to miso in and of itself.

Going with the " nearby genes " idea, does anyone else like to stay up most of the

night (and is not still a teenager?)

Liesa

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> I've had sound sensitivity for over 50 years. I slept well as long as I could

block out annoying sounds. Never had insomnia till I hit menopause. Doc says

that's common. I don't believe there's a link to " typical " insomnia and 4S, but

you can definitely have both.

> Colleen

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How could they tell that you didn't get enough REM sleep? And how quickly did

NFB start to help with that? I have a friend who sleeps for long periods and

still feels tired; I might mention NFB to him since everyone seems to be

reporting improved sleep.

I was also meaning to ask you how long your NFB sessions are and how frequently

you've been doing them?

Liesa

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> Well I have to say NFB improved my sleep and hence made me less irritable-

which in turn slightly affects my reaction to triggers. I'm hoping that with

more NFB treatments that will continue to improve but I have to tell you I used

to sleep 12 hours a night and now I sleep 8.5 and feel more rested- this is due

to the NFB. They actually said I was an insomniac because I didn't get enough

deep sleep (REM)

> Audrey

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I have done 23 treatments in total. 21 regular guided NFB, and 2 tinnitus training with a relaxation NFB at the end of it.Audrey To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:01 PM Subject: Re: Neurofeedback

How many treatments have you done Aubrey?

I have an appointment next week with a psychologist who does Neurofeedback. First appointment includes testing (QEEG) and evaluation. There are multi-session packages, so there's a little bit of a price break.

This is not Brain State Tech, which I did last year without success, but only had 10 sessions. Because it didn't improve my SPD, insomnia or anything else, the provider discouraged me from continuing. Didn't know then that there were other options and that it takes many sessions. This place is cheaper and closer to home, anyway.

I'll keep you informed of progress.

Wish me luck (or a miracle if that's what it takes...)

Colleen

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Hi LiesaApparently the practioner could tell through looking at my brain waves that I wasn't making enough Alpha (I think that was the one) but I could be wrong. My NFB sessions are 50 minutes long twice a week for 20 sessions. Now I'm doing a tinnitus training. They think it's possibly linked to miso in the way we process sounds, but it's experimental- they've never done it before. The tinnitus training only takes 30 minutes for 8-12 sessions total. They do a regular NFB relaxation afterward and sometimes beforehand for another 20 minutes approximately.Hope that helps. It's really nice not to be sleeping my life away!Audrey To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Neurofeedback

How could they tell that you didn't get enough REM sleep? And how quickly did NFB start to help with that? I have a friend who sleeps for long periods and still feels tired; I might mention NFB to him since everyone seems to be reporting improved sleep.

I was also meaning to ask you how long your NFB sessions are and how frequently you've been doing them?

Liesa

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> Well I have to say NFB improved my sleep and hence made me less irritable- which in turn slightly affects my reaction to triggers. I'm hoping that with more NFB treatments that will continue to improve but I have to tell you I used to sleep 12 hours a night and now I sleep 8.5 and feel more rested- this is due to the NFB. They actually said I was an insomniac because I didn't get enough deep sleep (REM)

> Audrey

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From all I have read people say that about 20 treatments is when the real changes start to happen..and from then on it gets better...with around 80-100 being when it is really getting there.So was just curious :)How often do you do the treatments and were you able to get it covered under insurance?Thanks!

I have an appointment next week with a psychologist who does Neurofeedback. First appointment includes testing (QEEG) and evaluation. There are multi-session packages, so there's a little bit of a price break. This is not Brain State Tech, which I did last year without success, but only had 10 sessions. Because it didn't improve my SPD, insomnia or anything else, the provider discouraged me from continuing. Didn't know then that there were other options and that it takes many sessions. This place is cheaper and closer to home, anyway. I'll keep you informed of progress. Wish me luck (or a miracle if that's what it takes...) Colleen

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Yes- change has happened in my mood, sleep and less irritability. But I'm still very triggered at times. I just had all I could take from my husband's banging around in the kitchen, and had a little outburst to myself.. So I'm better, but I still have a long way to go- I'm hopeful though since I have improvedAudrey To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:45 PM Subject: Re: Neurofeedback

From all I have read people say that about 20 treatments is when the real changes start to happen..and from then on it gets better...with around 80-100 being when it is really getting there.So was just curious :)How often do you do the treatments and were you able to get it covered under insurance?Thanks!

I have an appointment next week with a psychologist who does Neurofeedback. First appointment includes testing (QEEG) and evaluation. There are multi-session packages, so there's a little bit of a price break. This is not Brain State Tech, which I did last year without success, but only had 10 sessions. Because it didn't improve my SPD, insomnia or anything else, the provider discouraged me from continuing. Didn't know then that there were other options and that it takes many sessions. This place is cheaper and closer to home, anyway. I'll keep you informed of progress. Wish me luck (or a miracle if that's what it takes...) Colleen

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Ah...I have that same problem.. When I am in my computer room playing games and my wife is in the kitchen which shares a wall with the computer room...I get drove NUTS. Simple opening capinets and closing them, fridge, etc. I go nuts :)Glad the NFB is helping though!

I have an appointment next week with a psychologist who does Neurofeedback. First appointment includes testing (QEEG) and evaluation. There are multi-session packages, so there's a little bit of a price break. This is not Brain State Tech, which I did last year without success, but only had 10 sessions. Because it didn't improve my SPD, insomnia or anything else, the provider discouraged me from continuing. Didn't know then that there were other options and that it takes many sessions. This place is cheaper and closer to home, anyway. I'll keep you informed of progress. Wish me luck (or a miracle if that's what it takes...) Colleen

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Good luck

 

I have an appointment next week with a psychologist who does Neurofeedback. First appointment includes testing (QEEG) and evaluation. There are multi-session packages, so there's a little bit of a price break.

This is not Brain State Tech, which I did last year without success, but only had 10 sessions. Because it didn't improve my SPD, insomnia or anything else, the provider discouraged me from continuing. Didn't know then that there were other options and that it takes many sessions. This place is cheaper and closer to home, anyway.

I'll keep you informed of progress.

Wish me luck (or a miracle if that's what it takes...)

Colleen

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From what you and others have said, it seems the first change with NFB is

improved sleep. If that happens to me then I might be encouraged to soldier on

after 20 sessions...assuming I'm not broke by then. My insurance does not cover

it.

Keep us informed. I'm very interested in your continued progress!

Colleen

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> >I have an appointment next week with a psychologist who does Neurofeedback.

First appointment includes testing (QEEG) and evaluation. There are

multi-session packages, so there's a little bit of a price break.

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> >This is not Brain State Tech, which I did last year without success, but only

had 10 sessions. Because it didn't improve my SPD, insomnia or anything else,

the provider discouraged me from continuing. Didn't know then that there were

other options and that it takes many sessions. This place is cheaper and closer

to home, anyway.

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> >I'll keep you informed of progress.

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> >Wish me luck (or a miracle if that's what it takes...)

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> >Colleen

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I am alway struggling to keep a normal sleep pattern so that I am up durring the

day, however, what is normal for me is to want to go to bed at 5 in the morning

and wake up at 1 in the afternoon. The sounds don't keep me up because I have a

box fan set on high. The problem is that the fan will sometimes keep me up if

it raddles a little here and there. The biggest problem that I have with noises

and sleep comes from the loud-ass engines of vehicles off in the distance. I

don't like the idea of sleeping with my bose headphones on, however, I do it

here and there because even without music playing, the noise canceling by itself

is enough to stop the deep base engine noise; it's kind of odd because I heard

that active noise canceling is better for high frequency than for low frequency.

I guess not. Plus the fact that certain high frequency sounds go right around

the noise canceling. I suppose earplugs would be better, but I've never worn

any that don't hurt my ears. Also, I need to soundproof my windows better.

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Hi Jarred,

Regarding your sleep pattern, google " Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome " . Here is one

site:

http://www.sleepassociation.org/index.php?p=delayedsleepphasesyndrome

It may explain a lot. At the one time I tried therapy for this, bright light

exposure soon after wakening did help somewhat (but I was using sunlight, living

in Michigan, and winter arrived ... no more sunlight!)

If you want to talk about this further, feel free to email me privately since

it's off-topic for this group.

Liesa

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> I am alway struggling to keep a normal sleep pattern so that I am up durring

the day, however, what is normal for me is to want to go to bed at 5 in the

morning and wake up at 1 in the afternoon.

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Have you tried Hearos Ultimate Softness Series earplugs? I wear them all day with little or no discomfort.

From: whatismisophona

Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 4:46 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Neurofeedback

I am alway struggling to keep a normal sleep pattern so that I am up durring the day, however, what is normal for me is to want to go to bed at 5 in the morning and wake up at 1 in the afternoon. The sounds don't keep me up because I have a box fan set on high. The problem is that the fan will sometimes keep me up if it raddles a little here and there. The biggest problem that I have with noises and sleep comes from the loud-ass engines of vehicles off in the distance. I don't like the idea of sleeping with my bose headphones on, however, I do it here and there because even without music playing, the noise canceling by itself is enough to stop the deep base engine noise; it's kind of odd because I heard that active noise canceling is better for high frequency than for low frequency. I guess not. Plus the fact that certain high frequency sounds go right around the noise canceling. I suppose earplugs would be better, but I've never worn any that don't hurt my ears. Also, I need to soundproof my windows better

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Good luck Colleen! HeidiSent from my iPhoneReal Results. Real science. Age-Defying Skin. www.heidisalerno.nerium.comHappy Dancing!www.jitterbal.comOn Jun 22, 2012, at 8:09 AM, "bikinbones2" wrote:

I have an appointment next week with a psychologist who does Neurofeedback. First appointment includes testing (QEEG) and evaluation. There are multi-session packages, so there's a little bit of a price break.

This is not Brain State Tech, which I did last year without success, but only had 10 sessions. Because it didn't improve my SPD, insomnia or anything else, the provider discouraged me from continuing. Didn't know then that there were other options and that it takes many sessions. This place is cheaper and closer to home, anyway.

I'll keep you informed of progress.

Wish me luck (or a miracle if that's what it takes...)

Colleen

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Aren't those the 200 dollar ones? seem awfully expensive for ear plugs that

wouldn't last for very long. Maybe I could just shove a ball of bee's wax into

my ears **

" Have you tried Hearos Ultimate Softness Series earplugs? I wear them all

day with little or no discomfort. "

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Less than $1, but each pair only lasts a week

From: whatismisophona

Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:56 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Neurofeedback

Aren't those the 200 dollar ones? seem awfully expensive for ear plugs that wouldn't last for very long. Maybe I could just shove a ball of bee's wax into my ears **"Have you tried Hearos Ultimate Softness Series earplugs? I wear them all day with little or no discomfort."-

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Whatismosophona… Which noise cancellation headphones do you have that cancel out the low frequency sounds instead of the high frequency sounds?? (It’s the low frequency sounds that trigger my son). I’ve been looking for some that do that.Thank you! From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of whatismisophonaSent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 4:47 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Neurofeedback I am alway struggling to keep a normal sleep pattern so that I am up durring the day, however, what is normal for me is to want to go to bed at 5 in the morning and wake up at 1 in the afternoon. The sounds don't keep me up because I have a box fan set on high. The problem is that the fan will sometimes keep me up if it raddles a little here and there. The biggest problem that I have with noises and sleep comes from the loud-ass engines of vehicles off in the distance. I don't like the idea of sleeping with my bose headphones on, however, I do it here and there because even without music playing, the noise canceling by itself is enough to stop the deep base engine noise; it's kind of odd because I heard that active noise canceling is better for high frequency than for low frequency. I guess not. Plus the fact that certain high frequency sounds go right around the noise canceling. I suppose earplugs would be better, but I've never worn any that don't hurt my ears. Also, I need to soundproof my windows better.