Re: fMRI, other testing

[Guest guest]

I totally agree Adah!Heidi

I don't want to start any long and difficult discussion but I disagree. If anyone with good health insurance could find a research neurologist who has an idea of what we're going through, an fMRI would certainly be in order. As would testing for hippocampus/hypothalaums communication and at which point in stimulus/response comes adrenal involvement. The cortisol production is not the result of a hallucination, rather it is the result of ALL of our brains shooting signals to the SAME inappropriate area of our brains. We are not suffering from auditory hallucinations: we are suffering from mis-wiring in the brain. fMRI will show what "real" parts of the brain are being activated. We are not a collection of "one-off's" we have the same disorder. This disorder is auditory only to the extent that we are all sensitive to the same sounds. This is a neurological, not auditory issue.

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> For the benefit of Americans who have to pay for expensive tests, I would say that fMRI is not going to give any helpful information. I am interested in tinnitus and auditory hallucinations and have been to hundreds of academic presentations, but do not think brain imaging helps much. With voices, the speech areas of the brain light up as they do with real voices, but with no indication of where the hallucination originated. With tinnitus, auditory brain areas are activated, as they would if it originated in the ear, though one interesting finding is that the brain dopamine circuits are also activated.

> I am sure TMY and MSD are connected, but how and in what order I do not know. Sensitivity to sound in one ear only can only be due to a problem in that ear. There is no known brain disorder that causes unilateral deafness, for example.

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[Guest guest]

If there was a short and simple explanation for misophonia, we would all have

found it already. So long and difficult discussions are unavoidable, starting

with assimilation and review of all known relevant information in journals of

psychiatry, otology, neurology and neuroscience. Cortisol levels may well be

involved, as in other disorders, eg depression. However, fMRI gives no temporal

information, so will not show if cortisol-sensitive areas are involved at the

start or the finish.

Other disorders, like schizophrenia, are thought to be due to miswiring, and

brain imaging is indeed abnormal. However, it is not possible to say whether

the brain changes caused the disease, or are a result of the disease, stamped

into the brain by severe symptoms.

The fact that people with sound sensitivities post on mutually hostile

internet sites would suggest that this is not a homogeneous condition, but at

the end of the day this is an empirical question.

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> > For the benefit of Americans who have to pay for expensive tests, I would

say that fMRI is not going to give any helpful information. I am interested in

tinnitus and auditory hallucinations and have been to hundreds of academic

presentations, but do not think brain imaging helps much. With voices, the

speech areas of the brain light up as they do with real voices, but with no

indication of where the hallucination originated. With tinnitus, auditory brain

areas are activated, as they would if it originated in the ear, though one

interesting finding is that the brain dopamine circuits are also activated.

> > I am sure TMY and MSD are connected, but how and in what order I do not

know. Sensitivity to sound in one ear only can only be due to a problem in that

ear. There is no known brain disorder that causes unilateral deafness, for

example.

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[Guest guest]

i agree 100%

I don't want to start any long and difficult discussion but I disagree. If anyone with good health insurance could find a research neurologist who has an idea of what we're going through, an fMRI would certainly be in order. As would testing for hippocampus/hypothalaums communication and at which point in stimulus/response comes adrenal involvement. The cortisol production is not the result of a hallucination, rather it is the result of ALL of our brains shooting signals to the SAME inappropriate area of our brains. We are not suffering from auditory hallucinations: we are suffering from mis-wiring in the brain. fMRI will show what "real" parts of the brain are being activated. We are not a collection of "one-off's" we have the same disorder. This disorder is auditory only to the extent that we are all sensitive to the same sounds. This is a neurological, not auditory issue.>> For the benefit of Americans who have to pay for expensive tests, I would say that fMRI is not going to give any helpful information. I am interested in tinnitus and auditory hallucinations and have been to hundreds of academic presentations, but do not think brain imaging helps much. With voices, the speech areas of the brain light up as they do with real voices, but with no indication of where the hallucination originated. With tinnitus, auditory brain areas are activated, as they would if it originated in the ear, though one interesting finding is that the brain dopamine circuits are also activated.> I am sure TMY and MSD are connected, but how and in what order I do not know.

Sensitivity to sound in one ear only can only be due to a problem in that ear. There is no known brain disorder that causes unilateral deafness, for example. >

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