Re: [Fwd: pain and menstruation]

[Guest guest]

Hi there -- that research is interesting.

About anti-fungals. I was the queen of running to the gyny to get difulcan

and honestly, seeing a naturopath to help me plan a diet and to provide me

with supplements to

a-kill the yeast

b-get rid of parasites

c-feed the friendly bacteria

resulted in me not having a yeast infection since. I used to put my health

in Dr's hands but came to the realisation that there is a lot you can

control just by what you put in yourself, without resorting to drugs which

seem to have side-effects. To be honest I am surprised that gynacologists

don't tackle the problem in this way when it is a great long term solution!!!

Anyway, I know dr's and drugs are necessary for things and help us out in

tremendous ways but I also feel that western medicine is a bit out of tune

in some ways.

Dr. Crooks' book steered me in the right direction but even he claims you

can't rid yourself of candida without an anti-fungal prescription and you can!!

Also on the constipation front. My mom had bad constipation and saw her dr.

who recommended metamucil. she loathed taking that and ended up finding a

book which I think was called you and your colon. anyway, she changed her

diet and now she has no stomach problems. On the other end of the scale, I

had bad bad bad IBS and as a wonderful side effect, the anti-candida therapy

completely cured me of that!!!!!!

Anyway, i think when your body is aggravating you with SOME things like ibs

and constipation it is telling you that it doesn't like something you are

doing, and with help you can figure it out and put an end to it. I am not

saying all of our ailments are out fault, but just that there are some you

can sort out by making some changes.

I hope I don't sound too overbearing but just to let you know that there is

someone out there who natural solutions have worked for, especially in terms

of yeast and stomach trouble.

Mia.

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>RESEARCH ON MENSTRUATION, PAIN, AND CANDIDA:

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>In two days I received 23 replies.

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>Here's how it went:

>Note: these categories overlap because some people checked both.

># people better during only part of period: 4

># people " a little better " during period: 2

># people " better " implying during entire period: 10

># saying they have candida and are better during period: 7

> (several did not mention, weren't sure, etc.)

># saying they have candida and are worse during period: 7

> (However, one pointed out she's worse only when she has active candida,

>when clumps of yeast come out and pain is worse during period. I think

>maybe I should ask whether pain is worse or better and whether the

>person still has candida symptoms or just had candida at the beginning.

>What does " having candida " mean to us?)

># people saying it's no different whether they're menstruating or not: 1

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>One woman said she when she was on a low oxalate diet, worse during

>period. Stopped the diet because it didn't work and was then better

>when menstruating.

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>Several people said they think their pads increase yeast. So maybe the

>strictly vulva people and the strictly vestibule people are different?

>

>Clearly, there are so many variables: age, location of pain, diagnosis

>of skin, candida, allergy, or other problems. But still I wonder if we

>could find anything this way. I am more interested in candida than

>other problems simply because that's what my " patient " has. (Remember,

>I'm on for someone who doesn't have the net?) I think it is possible

>that in the common yeast infection menstruation makes it worse, which

>I've heard and read. Perhaps after it goes to pain the estrogen level

>is more important than the conditions in the vagina itself. Maybe the

>yeast that buries into the vagina later in the problem responds to

>estrogen. Just thinking out loud.

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>I have an idea this is a common scenario: woman takes antibiotics,

>maybe even had to take prednisone, maybe not, got more and more yeast

>infections, loved sugar, which fed the yeast, didn't realize she was

>getting them more often, kept taking antifungals and the antifungals

>didn't work. The pain went from itching to burning to burning pain.

>Woman keeps taking anti-fungals because she feels she can't stop. I

>know this isn't everyone's problem, but it is common. I have a feeling

>the anti-fungals don't work for many VV people. That's why I guess I am

>so interested in Colet Lahoz' treatment plan, which is causing die-off

>for the first time in my " patient. " I in no way am suggesting anyone

>stop anti-fungals, but it is interesting that Colet's research showed

>patients rated all anti-fungals helping a lot less than her treatment.

>

>Another thing that bothers me is some of you don't know if you have

>yeast or not. I can understand that, since Dr. Crandall I believe said

>in a person who has been on anti-fungals, the yeast may be buried into

>the vagina and not show in a vaginal culture. You must read Crook's

>book and look at your history. Because if it's candida, the treatment

>must kill the yeast.

>

>I will forward Colet's number to you if you want the book and/or a

>consultation.

>

> Best to all,

> Beth

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mia:

I was reading your note on the list and you feel like I do. I am going through

a terrible battle with bladder infections right now and it's one antib. after

another. I'm caught in the traditional trap.

I lived by Crooks book and got myself rid of yeast a long time ago.

Although like you said, I didn't do it with harsh anti fungal.

After reading your note I think I'll try to find my way out of this with some

herbs.

Good note! Elaine

[Guest guest]

Mia:

I was reading your note on the list and you feel like I do. I am going through

a terrible battle with bladder infections right now and it's one antib. after

another. I'm caught in the traditional trap.

I lived by Crooks book and got myself rid of yeast a long time ago.

Although like you said, I didn't do it with harsh anti fungal.

After reading your note I think I'll try to find my way out of this with some

herbs.

Good note! Elaine