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Mercury toxicity plays a major role in both MS and autism.

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On Wed, 10 October 2001, 0567@... wrote:

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> autistic children..i was wondering if anyone else has heard of this or has

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Hi Benjie,

Maybe some of the others can confirm this, but I've read many posts

recently on RBF where this exact thing has happened. Some said they

believe it's because the AP is killing the organisms, thereby causing

more toxin in the bloodstream. The key was said to be: if you are

feeling better to trust that as a positive sign.

bg

> I hope somebody can help me...I've been on minocycline for 16

months..100mg

> five days a week. In May my RF was 177 and my sed rate was normal.

This past

> week after blood work was done, my RF was 311 and my sed rate was

still

> normal. I have some pain but not enough for any pain meds so at

this point

> I'm really confused. Since my Dr isn't really up on using

antibiotics I

> don't know what to think..Can anybody help??

> Benjie1238

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Hi Debb,

>

> JUST A THOUGHT, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY HAVE PAIN BECAUSE OF TIGHT OR THICK

> SKIN, COULD THIS HELP WITH THE PAIN OF THE NEEDLE OR CATHETER.???? IT

> PENETRATES DEEPLY TO THE TISSUES ..I BELIEVE IT IS A LIDOCAINE BASED

> CREAM..HE TOLD ME TO APPLY IT THICKLY, AND I WILL,

Yep, worked great for my daughter. She plastered it on her arm about an

hour before her clindamycin IV and didn't feel anything.

Chris.

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momofmanysix@... wrote:

> Has anyone heard of giving cilantro to deal with mercury toxicity. If so how

> does it work. I am having all my old silver dental work replaced with

> composite. Lots of it!!!. My dentist recommending taking cilantro while in

> the process. I am wondering if it works like chelation and if so shouldn't I

> wait until all the mercury is out? Advice please. Thanks,

>

no one knows what in cilantro works but apparently it does. it is not

recommended

by most because from each plant whatever is working may vary considerably. you

might just end up moving metals around in your body instead of out.

you should wait till your fillings are completely out till chelating anyway.

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I have put my son on cilantro almost seven months now. I believe cilantro

worked really well to pull out free mercury from the body. But for the

bounded mercury, we may need stronger chelator to deal with it. Some

people think that cilantro may only move mercury around, it is not the case

on my son. My son's hair test results told me cilantro pulled out the

mercury. I just think every individual is different. It may not work well

on other people. Because it is natural, you may try for a while and pay

attention on the results.

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Has anyone heard of giving cilantro to deal with mercury toxicity. If so

how

does it work. I am having all my old silver dental work replaced with

composite. Lots of it!!!. My dentist recommending taking cilantro while

in

the process. I am wondering if it works like chelation and if so shouldn't

I

wait until all the mercury is out? Advice please. Thanks,

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> Has anyone heard of giving cilantro to deal with mercury toxicity.

Yes.

> If so how

> does it work.

Some people believe it has an unknown compound that effectively

chelates mercury, even out of the brain.

>I am having all my old silver dental work replaced with

> composite. Lots of it!!!. My dentist recommending taking cilantro

while in

> the process.

Don't. It will make you much worse. Let the dentist do the dentistry,

don't listen to his medical advice.

>I am wondering if it works like chelation and if so shouldn't I

> wait until all the mercury is out?

Yes. Then it is best to chelate using something with known

properties.

>Advice please. Thanks, K

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At 01:16 PM 1/23/2002 EST, you wrote:

>Has anyone heard of giving cilantro to deal with mercury toxicity. If so

how

>does it work. I am having all my old silver dental work replaced with

>composite. Lots of it!!!. My dentist recommending taking cilantro while in

>the process. I am wondering if it works like chelation and if so

shouldn't I

>wait until all the mercury is out? Advice please. Thanks,

I have heard of it extensively, dozens of times. It has been discussed

on this list many times. I looked for references about it for a while

a bit over a year ago. I think it is likely that it does affect mercury.

I suggest that you read up on Andy's theory that a steady bloodstream

level of (any effective) chelator is needed to chelate safely.

I do know of one report of someone who had WORSE mercury-tox symptoms

after using cilantro. I also know of a couple reports of people doing

better using it. This is entirely consistent with what I would expect

from an effective chelator used " randomly " --- based on Andy's " stead

bloodstream level " theory.

For info on that (if you wish, of course!):

/files/ANDY_INDEX

see section on steady bloodstram level and bad dose schedules.

yes-- I would also agree with you that using ANYTHING which chelates

mercury is ill advised with amalgams present.

best wishes,

Moria

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Hi ,

Thats interesting about the Urocholine. I will see about it over here in

Europe.

Thx,

> Iv,e been reading all the mesages about dilated pupils. When we took

michael

> to our dan doctor he checked his pupils because if he was hyper and had

> dilated pupils it ment his brain was going to fast and they were going to

try

> and slow it down with codliver oil and urocholine. didn,t need it

but

> it might be a place to start gathering information. sandra

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Whenever possible, we buy stuff in capsules so we can

open the contents and mix with compounding syrup (or

some suitable flavored liquid). We put the mixture in

a syringe and squirt it in his mouth. We experiment

with the concoction recipe so that the taste doesn't

appear too objectionable.

Max

--- MMacGregor@... wrote:

> Hi

>

> We're going to be starting DMSA soon, and I don't

> know how I'm going to get

> it into DD! Giving her any medicine is a two person

> job and even then she

> manages to get rid of most of the dose. Any ideas?

>

> Margaret

>

>

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Hi Chris

I have also had my son on Flax Seed for about 2 months didn't notice

anything at first but now it is remarkable. Every day he learns new words.

Randy has been on meds for so long for so many different things that it

doesnt bother him he wont take it if you put it in something but since it is

a gel cap i just put it in the bacvk orf his mouth as far as i can and he

swallows with no problem.

Also out of subject does anyone know anything about Digeorge disease? They

are now doing more blood work to test for this and a sweat cl to rule out any

minor signs of Cerbal Palsey or Cystic Fiboris can't remember which any info

would be greatly appreciated

Also what part of Ohio Chris

Amy

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> Hi,

> We got Will's results to his MRI & MRS after such a long wait.

> His MRI should that the myelin is normal HEY, but the depakote has caused

> some fluid in the vessels around the brain. Which in one way isn't good but

> the good side is that the fluid will slowly disappear and this will allow

> his brain to grow again.

> MRS well they found a mark on the lower part of his brain, and they think

> it is from when he was a baby and he had a legion there and having this

> legion on the part of the brain that controls motor is the result why Will

> has such lower tone. They want to do a muscle biopsy but we have to go to

> Atlanta for the test, they want to make sure his enzymes are normal. I

> guess the part that upsets me most his he doesn't know why genetics didn't

> do an MRS when he was much younger and maybe this could have been

> corrected. The metabolic doctor isn't sure if this is normal of IDIC 15 but

> it is normal of children with PWS. So know we are off to Atlanta. I often

> wonder why him, when will he get a break? If isn't one thing it is another.

>

> Take CAre

> Lori

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YES, everything that i send the group comes back to me as undeliverable and

gives some weird address that i've never seen.

winona

anyone else having incredible difficulty with posts being sent in lists

having the mail returned??/

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I keep getting occasional messages saying undeliverable message for things I

never sent to some e-mail address. But when I do post, I also occasionally

get back an undeliverable message to the same e-mail address, but it also

shows up on the list, so I know it's going through. This doesn't happen

every time. I asked my husband about this, and he said that when someone is

posting with false information in their IP (?) address, it can come back

saying undeliverable. So in other words, someone is posting from an illegal

e-mail address, or has falsified their header information and that may be

why we're getting undeliverable messages. This is all computer jargon to me,

and I don't have a clue about what he's talking about, or even if I conveyed

it accurately, since he told me last night, and I'm having to depend on my

faulty memory to repeat it this morning. He's the general manager and head

computer technician for the computer division in his company, which is a

telecommunications and information management company that provides Internet

access among other things, so I assume he knows what he's talking about,

even if I don't. At any rate, basically, what I understand is that it's

someone else's problem, and I don't need to worry about it. But it does make

me feel a little leery that there is someone out there on this list who is

not who they claim to be.

lindaj@...

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> YES, everything that i send the group comes back to me as undeliverable

and gives some weird address that i've never seen.

> winona

>

>

> anyone else having incredible difficulty with posts being sent in

lists

> having the mail returned??/

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Hi,

I think we get the notification about mail returned, but the mail still gets

there.

Dagmar.

[ ] (no subject)

anyone else having incredible difficulty with posts being sent in lists

having the mail returned??/

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Sue,

Actually I sent the article to the numerous lists on Autism so other parents

of children with Autism could write to the source of the article to refute the

so-called " facts " in the article. I am the mother of a 6 yr old boy with Autism

and ADHD that did regress after receiving his MMR, has recently tested as

Mercury toxic, and is awaiting an appt with a DAN practitioner early next year

to begin chelation. Alot of other parents feel the need to correct the media

when they publish crap like what was said in that article. I know I myself have

contacted the New York Times about the article and I know alot of others whom

intend to do the same thing. I didnt imply that I believed anything that was

said in the article so dont judge me and attack me in an email without knowing

my intentions first.....did you contact the others whom have sent the same

article to the lists and attack them as well???

I know I have seen others that have forwarded the same article to the some of

the same lists as well......just because you do not know me, dont presume to

know my intentions....

Ellen

p.s. I was wondering (no subject)

I received the article you send about Parents who do not vaccinate. I see

that you sent it to all the groups who have anything to do with Autism and

developmental disabilities. Just who are you?????? Apparently you are not a

parent of a child with autism. Or a parent of a child who totally developed fine

until he received the MMR vaccination. Had you been you would think twice before

sending this for you would be in our shoes wondering what happened...

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Sue,

Actually I sent the article to the numerous lists on Autism so other parents

of children with Autism could write to the source of the article to refute the

so-called " facts " in the article. I am the mother of a 6 yr old boy with Autism

and ADHD that did regress after receiving his MMR, has recently tested as

Mercury toxic, and is awaiting an appt with a DAN practitioner early next year

to begin chelation. Alot of other parents feel the need to correct the media

when they publish crap like what was said in that article. I know I myself have

contacted the New York Times about the article and I know alot of others whom

intend to do the same thing. I didnt imply that I believed anything that was

said in the article so dont judge me and attack me in an email without knowing

my intentions first.....did you contact the others whom have sent the same

article to the lists and attack them as well???

I know I have seen others that have forwarded the same article to the some of

the same lists as well......just because you do not know me, dont presume to

know my intentions....

Ellen

p.s. I was wondering (no subject)

I received the article you send about Parents who do not vaccinate. I see

that you sent it to all the groups who have anything to do with Autism and

developmental disabilities. Just who are you?????? Apparently you are not a

parent of a child with autism. Or a parent of a child who totally developed fine

until he received the MMR vaccination. Had you been you would think twice before

sending this for you would be in our shoes wondering what happened...

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Thanks Ellen for posting this article. I will send my opinions on this. You know

the thing that drives me nuts, is our children are the victims here and we

should be thanked for the sacrifice which we have already given to the " cause " .

If at this point we opted out of vaccinating, who has the right to judge that?

CA rep with Unlocking Autism

(no subject)

I received the article you send about Parents who do not vaccinate. I see

that you sent it to all the groups who have anything to do with Autism and

developmental disabilities. Just who are you?????? Apparently you are not a

parent of a child with autism. Or a parent of a child who totally developed fine

until he received the MMR vaccination. Had you been you would think twice before

sending this for you would be in our shoes wondering what happened...

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Thanks Ellen for posting this article. I will send my opinions on this. You know

the thing that drives me nuts, is our children are the victims here and we

should be thanked for the sacrifice which we have already given to the " cause " .

If at this point we opted out of vaccinating, who has the right to judge that?

CA rep with Unlocking Autism

(no subject)

I received the article you send about Parents who do not vaccinate. I see

that you sent it to all the groups who have anything to do with Autism and

developmental disabilities. Just who are you?????? Apparently you are not a

parent of a child with autism. Or a parent of a child who totally developed fine

until he received the MMR vaccination. Had you been you would think twice before

sending this for you would be in our shoes wondering what happened...

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just because you do not know me, dont presume to

know my intentions....

Ellen,

Maybe if you forward an article of this nature again you could

simply explain your intentions as you did in your reply. Since you

have a child who was damaged by vaccines I'm sure you can understand

that many parents get attacked for choosing not to vaccinate-it was

hard to tell from just the article being sent what the underlying

message was. I hope your son does well with chelation and its

obvious his Mom is looking out for him. Just curious-are you using

enzymes with him? Anyway, welcome and best of luck.

> Sue,

> Actually I sent the article to the numerous lists on Autism so

other parents of children with Autism could write to the source of

the article to refute the so-called " facts " in the article. I am the

mother of a 6 yr old boy with Autism and ADHD that did regress after

receiving his MMR, has recently tested as Mercury toxic, and is

awaiting an appt with a DAN practitioner early next year to begin

chelation. Alot of other parents feel the need to correct the media

when they publish crap like what was said in that article. I know I

myself have contacted the New York Times about the article and I know

alot of others whom intend to do the same thing. I didnt imply

that I believed anything that was said in the article so dont judge

me and attack me in an email without knowing my intentions

first.....did you contact the others whom have sent the same article

to the lists and attack them as well???

> I know I have seen others that have forwarded the same article to

the some of the same lists as well......just because you do not know

me, dont presume to know my intentions....

>

> Ellen

>

> p.s. I was wondering (no subject)

>

>

> I received the article you send about Parents who do not

vaccinate. I see that you sent it to all the groups who have anything

to do with Autism and developmental disabilities. Just who are

you?????? Apparently you are not a parent of a child with autism. Or

a parent of a child who totally developed fine until he received the

MMR vaccination. Had you been you would think twice before sending

this for you would be in our shoes wondering what happened...

>

>

>

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Yes, I do, and as a matter of fact, it is also an Urban Legend. I am

glad that someone besides me noticed

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Hi K

I'm sorry to hear your husband is having such a terrible time of it.

I think the disease is harder to bear when there is no definite

diagnosis. As we all know, stress can make pain much worse. At

least a name tag enables us to do research which is empowering and

helps to make us a little less anxious.

You mentioned that your husband has sausage shaped fingers.

Psoriatic Arthritis affects the fingers in this way and is referred

to as 'sausage digits'. Also PA affects the other joints you

mentioned, especially the feet and shoulders. Many sufferers have

only mild Psoriasis or none at all, in some cases the arthritis

precedes the skin inflammation. The only thing that doesn't fit is

his high rheumatoid factor. I'm sure I've read that PA is usually

sero negative, but maybe you'd like to check up on that one.

Take care

Lindy

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