Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Mercury toxicity plays a major role in both MS and autism. S On Wed, 10 October 2001, 0567@... wrote: > > <html><body> > <tt> > hi all..i saw a post on the me list regarding the use of interferons with <BR> > autistic children..i was wondering if anyone else has heard of this or has <BR> > more information..i'm curious because i take an interferon injection for my <BR> > ms which is suppose to slow down the progession of lesions on the spine and <BR> > brain..if this is being & nbsp; used to treat autism.maybe explain a piece of the <BR> > puzzle..thanks diana<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Hi Benjie, Maybe some of the others can confirm this, but I've read many posts recently on RBF where this exact thing has happened. Some said they believe it's because the AP is killing the organisms, thereby causing more toxin in the bloodstream. The key was said to be: if you are feeling better to trust that as a positive sign. bg > I hope somebody can help me...I've been on minocycline for 16 months..100mg > five days a week. In May my RF was 177 and my sed rate was normal. This past > week after blood work was done, my RF was 311 and my sed rate was still > normal. I have some pain but not enough for any pain meds so at this point > I'm really confused. Since my Dr isn't really up on using antibiotics I > don't know what to think..Can anybody help?? > Benjie1238 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 Hi Debb, > > JUST A THOUGHT, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY HAVE PAIN BECAUSE OF TIGHT OR THICK > SKIN, COULD THIS HELP WITH THE PAIN OF THE NEEDLE OR CATHETER.???? IT > PENETRATES DEEPLY TO THE TISSUES ..I BELIEVE IT IS A LIDOCAINE BASED > CREAM..HE TOLD ME TO APPLY IT THICKLY, AND I WILL, Yep, worked great for my daughter. She plastered it on her arm about an hour before her clindamycin IV and didn't feel anything. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 momofmanysix@... wrote: > Has anyone heard of giving cilantro to deal with mercury toxicity. If so how > does it work. I am having all my old silver dental work replaced with > composite. Lots of it!!!. My dentist recommending taking cilantro while in > the process. I am wondering if it works like chelation and if so shouldn't I > wait until all the mercury is out? Advice please. Thanks, > no one knows what in cilantro works but apparently it does. it is not recommended by most because from each plant whatever is working may vary considerably. you might just end up moving metals around in your body instead of out. you should wait till your fillings are completely out till chelating anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 I have put my son on cilantro almost seven months now. I believe cilantro worked really well to pull out free mercury from the body. But for the bounded mercury, we may need stronger chelator to deal with it. Some people think that cilantro may only move mercury around, it is not the case on my son. My son's hair test results told me cilantro pulled out the mercury. I just think every individual is different. It may not work well on other people. Because it is natural, you may try for a while and pay attention on the results. Ping momofmanysix@ aol.com cc: 01/23/02 Subject: [ ] (no subject) 12:16 PM Please respond to Autism-Mercur y Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 02/22/2002 Retention Category: G90 - Information and Reports Has anyone heard of giving cilantro to deal with mercury toxicity. If so how does it work. I am having all my old silver dental work replaced with composite. Lots of it!!!. My dentist recommending taking cilantro while in the process. I am wondering if it works like chelation and if so shouldn't I wait until all the mercury is out? Advice please. Thanks, ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 > Has anyone heard of giving cilantro to deal with mercury toxicity. Yes. > If so how > does it work. Some people believe it has an unknown compound that effectively chelates mercury, even out of the brain. >I am having all my old silver dental work replaced with > composite. Lots of it!!!. My dentist recommending taking cilantro while in > the process. Don't. It will make you much worse. Let the dentist do the dentistry, don't listen to his medical advice. >I am wondering if it works like chelation and if so shouldn't I > wait until all the mercury is out? Yes. Then it is best to chelate using something with known properties. >Advice please. Thanks, K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 At 01:16 PM 1/23/2002 EST, you wrote: >Has anyone heard of giving cilantro to deal with mercury toxicity. If so how >does it work. I am having all my old silver dental work replaced with >composite. Lots of it!!!. My dentist recommending taking cilantro while in >the process. I am wondering if it works like chelation and if so shouldn't I >wait until all the mercury is out? Advice please. Thanks, I have heard of it extensively, dozens of times. It has been discussed on this list many times. I looked for references about it for a while a bit over a year ago. I think it is likely that it does affect mercury. I suggest that you read up on Andy's theory that a steady bloodstream level of (any effective) chelator is needed to chelate safely. I do know of one report of someone who had WORSE mercury-tox symptoms after using cilantro. I also know of a couple reports of people doing better using it. This is entirely consistent with what I would expect from an effective chelator used " randomly " --- based on Andy's " stead bloodstream level " theory. For info on that (if you wish, of course!): /files/ANDY_INDEX see section on steady bloodstram level and bad dose schedules. yes-- I would also agree with you that using ANYTHING which chelates mercury is ill advised with amalgams present. best wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Hi , Thats interesting about the Urocholine. I will see about it over here in Europe. Thx, > Iv,e been reading all the mesages about dilated pupils. When we took michael > to our dan doctor he checked his pupils because if he was hyper and had > dilated pupils it ment his brain was going to fast and they were going to try > and slow it down with codliver oil and urocholine. didn,t need it but > it might be a place to start gathering information. sandra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Whenever possible, we buy stuff in capsules so we can open the contents and mix with compounding syrup (or some suitable flavored liquid). We put the mixture in a syringe and squirt it in his mouth. We experiment with the concoction recipe so that the taste doesn't appear too objectionable. Max --- MMacGregor@... wrote: > Hi > > We're going to be starting DMSA soon, and I don't > know how I'm going to get > it into DD! Giving her any medicine is a two person > job and even then she > manages to get rid of most of the dose. Any ideas? > > Margaret > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 Hi Chris I have also had my son on Flax Seed for about 2 months didn't notice anything at first but now it is remarkable. Every day he learns new words. Randy has been on meds for so long for so many different things that it doesnt bother him he wont take it if you put it in something but since it is a gel cap i just put it in the bacvk orf his mouth as far as i can and he swallows with no problem. Also out of subject does anyone know anything about Digeorge disease? They are now doing more blood work to test for this and a sweat cl to rule out any minor signs of Cerbal Palsey or Cystic Fiboris can't remember which any info would be greatly appreciated Also what part of Ohio Chris Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 > Hi, > We got Will's results to his MRI & MRS after such a long wait. > His MRI should that the myelin is normal HEY, but the depakote has caused > some fluid in the vessels around the brain. Which in one way isn't good but > the good side is that the fluid will slowly disappear and this will allow > his brain to grow again. > MRS well they found a mark on the lower part of his brain, and they think > it is from when he was a baby and he had a legion there and having this > legion on the part of the brain that controls motor is the result why Will > has such lower tone. They want to do a muscle biopsy but we have to go to > Atlanta for the test, they want to make sure his enzymes are normal. I > guess the part that upsets me most his he doesn't know why genetics didn't > do an MRS when he was much younger and maybe this could have been > corrected. The metabolic doctor isn't sure if this is normal of IDIC 15 but > it is normal of children with PWS. So know we are off to Atlanta. I often > wonder why him, when will he get a break? If isn't one thing it is another. > > Take CAre > Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 and Winnona This is exactly what I am referring to. Thanks,. With everything else that is happening, I guess I am not trusting anyone anymore. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 YES, everything that i send the group comes back to me as undeliverable and gives some weird address that i've never seen. winona anyone else having incredible difficulty with posts being sent in lists having the mail returned??/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 I keep getting occasional messages saying undeliverable message for things I never sent to some e-mail address. But when I do post, I also occasionally get back an undeliverable message to the same e-mail address, but it also shows up on the list, so I know it's going through. This doesn't happen every time. I asked my husband about this, and he said that when someone is posting with false information in their IP (?) address, it can come back saying undeliverable. So in other words, someone is posting from an illegal e-mail address, or has falsified their header information and that may be why we're getting undeliverable messages. This is all computer jargon to me, and I don't have a clue about what he's talking about, or even if I conveyed it accurately, since he told me last night, and I'm having to depend on my faulty memory to repeat it this morning. He's the general manager and head computer technician for the computer division in his company, which is a telecommunications and information management company that provides Internet access among other things, so I assume he knows what he's talking about, even if I don't. At any rate, basically, what I understand is that it's someone else's problem, and I don't need to worry about it. But it does make me feel a little leery that there is someone out there on this list who is not who they claim to be. lindaj@... Re: [ ] (no subject) > YES, everything that i send the group comes back to me as undeliverable and gives some weird address that i've never seen. > winona > > > anyone else having incredible difficulty with posts being sent in lists > having the mail returned??/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 Yes--me too!!! What can I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 Hi, I think we get the notification about mail returned, but the mail still gets there. Dagmar. [ ] (no subject) anyone else having incredible difficulty with posts being sent in lists having the mail returned??/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 yep > > From: mcro99@... > Date: 2002/11/15 Fri AM 09:03:39 EST > autism treatment > Subject: [ ] (no subject) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 Sue, Actually I sent the article to the numerous lists on Autism so other parents of children with Autism could write to the source of the article to refute the so-called " facts " in the article. I am the mother of a 6 yr old boy with Autism and ADHD that did regress after receiving his MMR, has recently tested as Mercury toxic, and is awaiting an appt with a DAN practitioner early next year to begin chelation. Alot of other parents feel the need to correct the media when they publish crap like what was said in that article. I know I myself have contacted the New York Times about the article and I know alot of others whom intend to do the same thing. I didnt imply that I believed anything that was said in the article so dont judge me and attack me in an email without knowing my intentions first.....did you contact the others whom have sent the same article to the lists and attack them as well??? I know I have seen others that have forwarded the same article to the some of the same lists as well......just because you do not know me, dont presume to know my intentions.... Ellen p.s. I was wondering (no subject) I received the article you send about Parents who do not vaccinate. I see that you sent it to all the groups who have anything to do with Autism and developmental disabilities. Just who are you?????? Apparently you are not a parent of a child with autism. Or a parent of a child who totally developed fine until he received the MMR vaccination. Had you been you would think twice before sending this for you would be in our shoes wondering what happened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 Sue, Actually I sent the article to the numerous lists on Autism so other parents of children with Autism could write to the source of the article to refute the so-called " facts " in the article. I am the mother of a 6 yr old boy with Autism and ADHD that did regress after receiving his MMR, has recently tested as Mercury toxic, and is awaiting an appt with a DAN practitioner early next year to begin chelation. Alot of other parents feel the need to correct the media when they publish crap like what was said in that article. I know I myself have contacted the New York Times about the article and I know alot of others whom intend to do the same thing. I didnt imply that I believed anything that was said in the article so dont judge me and attack me in an email without knowing my intentions first.....did you contact the others whom have sent the same article to the lists and attack them as well??? I know I have seen others that have forwarded the same article to the some of the same lists as well......just because you do not know me, dont presume to know my intentions.... Ellen p.s. I was wondering (no subject) I received the article you send about Parents who do not vaccinate. I see that you sent it to all the groups who have anything to do with Autism and developmental disabilities. Just who are you?????? Apparently you are not a parent of a child with autism. Or a parent of a child who totally developed fine until he received the MMR vaccination. Had you been you would think twice before sending this for you would be in our shoes wondering what happened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 Thanks Ellen for posting this article. I will send my opinions on this. You know the thing that drives me nuts, is our children are the victims here and we should be thanked for the sacrifice which we have already given to the " cause " . If at this point we opted out of vaccinating, who has the right to judge that? CA rep with Unlocking Autism (no subject) I received the article you send about Parents who do not vaccinate. I see that you sent it to all the groups who have anything to do with Autism and developmental disabilities. Just who are you?????? Apparently you are not a parent of a child with autism. Or a parent of a child who totally developed fine until he received the MMR vaccination. Had you been you would think twice before sending this for you would be in our shoes wondering what happened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 Thanks Ellen for posting this article. I will send my opinions on this. You know the thing that drives me nuts, is our children are the victims here and we should be thanked for the sacrifice which we have already given to the " cause " . If at this point we opted out of vaccinating, who has the right to judge that? CA rep with Unlocking Autism (no subject) I received the article you send about Parents who do not vaccinate. I see that you sent it to all the groups who have anything to do with Autism and developmental disabilities. Just who are you?????? Apparently you are not a parent of a child with autism. Or a parent of a child who totally developed fine until he received the MMR vaccination. Had you been you would think twice before sending this for you would be in our shoes wondering what happened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 just because you do not know me, dont presume to know my intentions.... Ellen, Maybe if you forward an article of this nature again you could simply explain your intentions as you did in your reply. Since you have a child who was damaged by vaccines I'm sure you can understand that many parents get attacked for choosing not to vaccinate-it was hard to tell from just the article being sent what the underlying message was. I hope your son does well with chelation and its obvious his Mom is looking out for him. Just curious-are you using enzymes with him? Anyway, welcome and best of luck. > Sue, > Actually I sent the article to the numerous lists on Autism so other parents of children with Autism could write to the source of the article to refute the so-called " facts " in the article. I am the mother of a 6 yr old boy with Autism and ADHD that did regress after receiving his MMR, has recently tested as Mercury toxic, and is awaiting an appt with a DAN practitioner early next year to begin chelation. Alot of other parents feel the need to correct the media when they publish crap like what was said in that article. I know I myself have contacted the New York Times about the article and I know alot of others whom intend to do the same thing. I didnt imply that I believed anything that was said in the article so dont judge me and attack me in an email without knowing my intentions first.....did you contact the others whom have sent the same article to the lists and attack them as well??? > I know I have seen others that have forwarded the same article to the some of the same lists as well......just because you do not know me, dont presume to know my intentions.... > > Ellen > > p.s. I was wondering (no subject) > > > I received the article you send about Parents who do not vaccinate. I see that you sent it to all the groups who have anything to do with Autism and developmental disabilities. Just who are you?????? Apparently you are not a parent of a child with autism. Or a parent of a child who totally developed fine until he received the MMR vaccination. Had you been you would think twice before sending this for you would be in our shoes wondering what happened... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Yes, I do, and as a matter of fact, it is also an Urban Legend. I am glad that someone besides me noticed > > UH, HELLOOOOOOOOOO....anybody besides me know this is illegal? > > > > > > > Pay Pal Program > > Follow the directions below and in two weeks you'll have up to > $20,000.00 in your PayPal account. There is a very high rate of > participation in the program because of its low investment and high rate > of return. Just $5.00 to one person! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Hi K I'm sorry to hear your husband is having such a terrible time of it. I think the disease is harder to bear when there is no definite diagnosis. As we all know, stress can make pain much worse. At least a name tag enables us to do research which is empowering and helps to make us a little less anxious. You mentioned that your husband has sausage shaped fingers. Psoriatic Arthritis affects the fingers in this way and is referred to as 'sausage digits'. Also PA affects the other joints you mentioned, especially the feet and shoulders. Many sufferers have only mild Psoriasis or none at all, in some cases the arthritis precedes the skin inflammation. The only thing that doesn't fit is his high rheumatoid factor. I'm sure I've read that PA is usually sero negative, but maybe you'd like to check up on that one. Take care Lindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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