Re: Need some backup when talk to doc

[Guest guest]

Yes this sounds liek classic thyroid resistance. WHne I could not

optimize in Armoru alone I first added T3 then I still onyl felt a minor

improvement. T3 does clear the receoptos of RT3 and I have no great

articles saved to this exgtent. Except this one:

http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter.com/nss-folder/pictures/ReverseT3_BestMarke\

rforTissueThyroidLevels_7_7.pdf

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, both Val and Sandy...

One followup question, Val...and I think I've seen this asked/answered

in different post, but just want to confirm: if I can't get my doc to

do the RT3 test before my appt. next week, is there any harm in

starting Cytomel to see how I feel on it, even if I can't check my RT3

to make sure that's the problem?

Thanks,

Teressa

[Guest guest]

Sandy, do you have adrenal insufficiency too? Did you try Armour?

Did you have your RT3 tested before starting Cytomel? If you were on

Armour, how much were you on before switching to Cytomel?

The idea of " relief " is so foreign to me right now...it's nice to

know some of us do get it, sometime...

Thanks,

Teressa

> >

> > Hi Val,

> >

> > I've posted off-and-on here and at STTM, where I first found

you.

> > I've been on HC and Armour for over 18 months, and have felt

little

> > improvement. I do feel somewhat better, but I believe any

> > improvement I feel is due to adding adrenal support (based on my

> > history of HC dosing/symptoms/temps--I was in stage 7 adrenal

> fatigue

> > according to my saliva test from DiagnosTechs). I believe my

> > adrenals are now adequately treated (at 32.5mg HC taken

> > 15/7.5/5/2.5/2.5...I take it every 3 hours from wakeup, with the

> last

> > dose at bedtime). When I reduce HC, I notice I do feel a little

> > worse.

> >

> > However, most of my symptoms have not improved in the over year

and

> a

> > half since I've been on this regimen. My latest labs (which I

> don't

> > unfortunately have in front of me at the moment) showed that my

T3

> > and T4 levels are high (top or over range) in BLOODWORK, but

> they're

> > incredibly low in urine testing. I believe (and I could be wrong

> > about this...I'm not familiar with urine testing and its

> reliability)

> > that this shows the hormones are not getting into my cells, but

> that

> > they're pooling in my blood.

> >

> > I've been graphing temps, and my 3x/daily averages have been

> between

> > 98.3 and 98.5 for the last 2 weeks. This leads me to believe my

> > adrenals are adequately supported. I'm on 4 1/4 grains of

Armour.

> >

> > I still have crippling fatigue. I fall asleep driving, my eyes

> feel

> > heavy, my skin is dry, I lose a lot of hair, I'm very achy, I

have

> no

> > stamina whatsoever and don't even ask what happened to my

> libido...it

> > went the way of <$3 gas prices. I have brain fog and difficulty

> > concentrating. I can literally sleep all day...could lay my head

> > down on my desk and sleep right now. I get overheated/sweaty

very

> > easily (very slight activity), but when I am still for a period

of

> > time, I do get cold...have very cold feet.

> >

> > I have an appt. with my DO next week. He has been, for the most

> > part, very willing to go along with my requests for

> > medications/doses, and I've returned the favor to him...when he's

> > suggested increases/decreases, I've gone along and he'll make

> > adjustments according to symptoms, not labs. The fact that my

> T3/T4

> > are at the top of the ranges doesn't concern him...he believes

they

> > need to be for the patient to feel better. But I DON'T feel

> better.

> > I called his office today to request a lab Rx to get my RT3/free

T3

> > tested. He just called back to say that he wanted to see me

first,

> > before doing the labs. I insisted, so we'll see what

happens...but

> I

> > really wanted to have ammunition when I talk to him, you know? I

> > checked out Dr. Lowe's website, but it confuses me more than

> > anything...he says that the T3 resistance is only temporary? I

> found

> > this quote: " Many doctors mistakenly believe that patients should

> use

> > T3 because they have impaired T4 to T3 conversion and, as a

result,

> > low T3 levels. But this has never been the reason for our

patients

> > using T3. Unfortunately, we're not certain why some patients must

> use

> > T3 to free themselves from hypothyroid-like symptoms. " That's

not

> > going to help me convince my doctor... I am not sure if I have

any

> > signs of thyroid resistance or a T3 conversion problem or high

RT3,

> > or whatever we want to call it...but at this point, it's my last

> > hope. I can't imagine what else could be preventing my symptoms

> from

> > improving...I take the HC as well as B12, Vitamins C and D,

> > magnesium, DHEA and my ferritin has always been between 70-

120...so

> I

> > don't think I'm missing anything that would be preventing the

> thyroid

> > hormone from working.

> >

> > So, to summarize, I guess I have two questions for you:

> > 1. Do you think I sound like a " typical " thyroid resistance case?

> > 2. Do you have a specific passage or link about RT3 that I could

> > bring to my doc, and say " Look, I read this, and I want to check

> out

> > if this could be my problem " ? I haven't found anything on Dr.

> > Lowe.com that helped...but maybe you have a specific passage from

> him

> > or Dr. that would help?

> >

> > Sorry for the long message...I can't seem to post without a

> bazillion

> > words each time!

> > Thanks,

> > Teressa

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I do nto believe there is any harm in doing a trial of T3 except it can

be hard on adrenals so you should be certtian you have them in good

working order or good support.

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