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Is there any way possible for you to move out? It may be worth it to deal with

whatever

disadvantage(s) there is/are to moving out in order to reclaim your own mental

health. Maybe

it would be helpful for you to write out the disadvantages to moving out and see

how/if you

can overcome them.

I find I need space from nada to begin to heal.

Remember, you must love yourself first.

Melany

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The anxiety you feel is nothing inherently wrong with you - its just

a normal reaction to abnormal dysfunctional circumstances. All part

of a fight or flight function built into us by instinct.

Unfortunately with it always runing overdrive - constant adrenaline

rush takes its toll on yourself mentally as well as physically. You

can be prescribed medication to take the edge off and help you

concentrate. But to completely recover it would be best to do what it

takes to remove yourself physically from the abode of BPD's.

>

> Hi--I'm 24 and have been living with borderline parents for years.

Also, my

> sister who is 31 is divorced and also a BP. I am a Psychology

student and I am

> very interested in Clinical Psych. but the anxiety that my BP mom

project is

> enormous. I can't seem to just be at peace...I feel that this

house is a

> house full of BPs and I don't know what to do.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Well first of all...welcome to this community...we strive to meet each member

with open hearts and open minds and unconditional support. We all do the best

we can to offer the best advice possible based on our life experience. We look

forward to getting to know you...based on just one paragraph I feel like we have

known each other for years. But that happens alot here as you will see.

For me, I found my best course of action was the course of action Cristie speaks

of...removing myself physically from the BP environment....but that is not

always possible..and even if it is, usually that doesn't completely fix the

problem...sometimes it exacerbates it. What I'm trying to say is that the effect

BPD has on people is really complex...i don't think one completely heals from it

the way you would a cold or a really bad flu....so i would caution you that

simply moving away...that's not going to be the cure all that ends all..but for

most of us it's a really good first step. I just want to make sure you

understand that we're not going to pass judgment on you if you don't follow our

advice . Personally, I feel like I offer what I can...i hope people can pick at

what they can use and feel free to leave the rest.

You are in a really good spot...it seems like people are learning about BP at

earlier ages now, which is terrific....i didn't know about this until I was 37.

As a psychology student you can learn more about BP...you understand that it's a

mental illness...and you have been able to find a way to rise above it already.

I know it's hard to live in a house with BP's...since your sister has it too you

must really feel like the odd man out. My brother is 10 years younger than I am

and I can talk to him about what I am going through and he can sympathize...but

he has his demons which, at times are much bigger than the BP behavior from our

parents. Do you have any plans to get out from under their roof? Physically

removing yourself would probably be your best bet, but there are plenty of us

here who still have contact with that BP person in our life, and there are

things you can do to help yourself cope...my best advice to you right now

is...allow yourself to hope.

Cristie Maure wrote:

The anxiety you feel is nothing inherently wrong with you - its just

a normal reaction to abnormal dysfunctional circumstances. All part

of a fight or flight function built into us by instinct.

Unfortunately with it always runing overdrive - constant adrenaline

rush takes its toll on yourself mentally as well as physically. You

can be prescribed medication to take the edge off and help you

concentrate. But to completely recover it would be best to do what it

takes to remove yourself physically from the abode of BPD's.

>

> Hi--I'm 24 and have been living with borderline parents for years.

Also, my

> sister who is 31 is divorced and also a BP. I am a Psychology

student and I am

> very interested in Clinical Psych. but the anxiety that my BP mom

project is

> enormous. I can't seem to just be at peace...I feel that this

house is a

> house full of BPs and I don't know what to do.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Well first of all...welcome to this community...we strive to meet each member

with open hearts and open minds and unconditional support. We all do the best

we can to offer the best advice possible based on our life experience. We look

forward to getting to know you...based on just one paragraph I feel like we have

known each other for years. But that happens alot here as you will see.

For me, I found my best course of action was the course of action Cristie speaks

of...removing myself physically from the BP environment....but that is not

always possible..and even if it is, usually that doesn't completely fix the

problem...sometimes it exacerbates it. What I'm trying to say is that the effect

BPD has on people is really complex...i don't think one completely heals from it

the way you would a cold or a really bad flu....so i would caution you that

simply moving away...that's not going to be the cure all that ends all..but for

most of us it's a really good first step. I just want to make sure you

understand that we're not going to pass judgment on you if you don't follow our

advice . Personally, I feel like I offer what I can...i hope people can pick at

what they can use and feel free to leave the rest.

You are in a really good spot...it seems like people are learning about BP at

earlier ages now, which is terrific....i didn't know about this until I was 37.

As a psychology student you can learn more about BP...you understand that it's a

mental illness...and you have been able to find a way to rise above it already.

I know it's hard to live in a house with BP's...since your sister has it too you

must really feel like the odd man out. My brother is 10 years younger than I am

and I can talk to him about what I am going through and he can sympathize...but

he has his demons which, at times are much bigger than the BP behavior from our

parents. Do you have any plans to get out from under their roof? Physically

removing yourself would probably be your best bet, but there are plenty of us

here who still have contact with that BP person in our life, and there are

things you can do to help yourself cope...my best advice to you right now

is...allow yourself to hope.

Cristie Maure wrote:

The anxiety you feel is nothing inherently wrong with you - its just

a normal reaction to abnormal dysfunctional circumstances. All part

of a fight or flight function built into us by instinct.

Unfortunately with it always runing overdrive - constant adrenaline

rush takes its toll on yourself mentally as well as physically. You

can be prescribed medication to take the edge off and help you

concentrate. But to completely recover it would be best to do what it

takes to remove yourself physically from the abode of BPD's.

>

> Hi--I'm 24 and have been living with borderline parents for years.

Also, my

> sister who is 31 is divorced and also a BP. I am a Psychology

student and I am

> very interested in Clinical Psych. but the anxiety that my BP mom

project is

> enormous. I can't seem to just be at peace...I feel that this

house is a

> house full of BPs and I don't know what to do.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Well first of all...welcome to this community...we strive to meet each member

with open hearts and open minds and unconditional support. We all do the best

we can to offer the best advice possible based on our life experience. We look

forward to getting to know you...based on just one paragraph I feel like we have

known each other for years. But that happens alot here as you will see.

For me, I found my best course of action was the course of action Cristie speaks

of...removing myself physically from the BP environment....but that is not

always possible..and even if it is, usually that doesn't completely fix the

problem...sometimes it exacerbates it. What I'm trying to say is that the effect

BPD has on people is really complex...i don't think one completely heals from it

the way you would a cold or a really bad flu....so i would caution you that

simply moving away...that's not going to be the cure all that ends all..but for

most of us it's a really good first step. I just want to make sure you

understand that we're not going to pass judgment on you if you don't follow our

advice . Personally, I feel like I offer what I can...i hope people can pick at

what they can use and feel free to leave the rest.

You are in a really good spot...it seems like people are learning about BP at

earlier ages now, which is terrific....i didn't know about this until I was 37.

As a psychology student you can learn more about BP...you understand that it's a

mental illness...and you have been able to find a way to rise above it already.

I know it's hard to live in a house with BP's...since your sister has it too you

must really feel like the odd man out. My brother is 10 years younger than I am

and I can talk to him about what I am going through and he can sympathize...but

he has his demons which, at times are much bigger than the BP behavior from our

parents. Do you have any plans to get out from under their roof? Physically

removing yourself would probably be your best bet, but there are plenty of us

here who still have contact with that BP person in our life, and there are

things you can do to help yourself cope...my best advice to you right now

is...allow yourself to hope.

Cristie Maure wrote:

The anxiety you feel is nothing inherently wrong with you - its just

a normal reaction to abnormal dysfunctional circumstances. All part

of a fight or flight function built into us by instinct.

Unfortunately with it always runing overdrive - constant adrenaline

rush takes its toll on yourself mentally as well as physically. You

can be prescribed medication to take the edge off and help you

concentrate. But to completely recover it would be best to do what it

takes to remove yourself physically from the abode of BPD's.

>

> Hi--I'm 24 and have been living with borderline parents for years.

Also, my

> sister who is 31 is divorced and also a BP. I am a Psychology

student and I am

> very interested in Clinical Psych. but the anxiety that my BP mom

project is

> enormous. I can't seem to just be at peace...I feel that this

house is a

> house full of BPs and I don't know what to do.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Thanks a lot for understanding, and having faith in my future progress

(something that I don't get much at home). I realize that is part of their

pathology, although I can't just feel bad for them. I grew out of my rut and I

am

still growing, why don't they try to progress like I am? I thought I was a good

role-model, although no achievement of mine seems to help or change them,

but maybe it will one day (or maybe that's just wishful thinking).

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Thanks a lot for understanding, and having faith in my future progress

(something that I don't get much at home). I realize that is part of their

pathology, although I can't just feel bad for them. I grew out of my rut and I

am

still growing, why don't they try to progress like I am? I thought I was a good

role-model, although no achievement of mine seems to help or change them,

but maybe it will one day (or maybe that's just wishful thinking).

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Hello, and welcome!

It is so good for you that you recognize the illnesses of your

family members. You need to also learn how being raised by BPD

parents affects you. As a psychology student, you are aware of how

early childhood experiences can wire us for the rest of our lives.

Your comment, that you feel like you 'need' your mother, and that it

is something she instilled in you is the main reason for my writing

this. A healthy parent raises their children to be self-sufficient,

and not dependent upon others. I believe your instincts are right,

that she has instilled it in you. It is she who feels she needs

you, and she is afraid of losing you, so she is doing things to tie

you to her. It will be up to you to reverse your thinking on this.

My experience has been that I was able to first intellectually

understand, but it took me a much longer time to understand at an

emotional, gut, level. But with persistence, this change does take

place.

Please come back, read and post.

Sylvia

>

> One good thing is that I do have a room at my sister's in-law's

place. But I

> do come back home for food and also, I realize out of a sense of

guilt. I

> already moved out once but that failed--I do see a Psychotherapist-

-she has

> helped me and the books I have on BP have helped me a lot, too,

but I feel as if

> there is no escape, in a sense, especially since most of my family

has the

> disorder. I can't just forget them or move out completely...My

mother, who I

> think has it worst out of everyone, makes me feel that if I do

move out, she

> would 'get me back' (which is probably just her fear of

abandonement speaking)

> and 'abandon' me, i.e., through lack of financial support, etc. On

one hand,

> I feel that once I graduate from school I can support myself, but

on the

> other hand, I feel as if I need her, I think this is something

she has instilled

> in me rather than it being the reality of the circumstance.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Hello, and welcome!

It is so good for you that you recognize the illnesses of your

family members. You need to also learn how being raised by BPD

parents affects you. As a psychology student, you are aware of how

early childhood experiences can wire us for the rest of our lives.

Your comment, that you feel like you 'need' your mother, and that it

is something she instilled in you is the main reason for my writing

this. A healthy parent raises their children to be self-sufficient,

and not dependent upon others. I believe your instincts are right,

that she has instilled it in you. It is she who feels she needs

you, and she is afraid of losing you, so she is doing things to tie

you to her. It will be up to you to reverse your thinking on this.

My experience has been that I was able to first intellectually

understand, but it took me a much longer time to understand at an

emotional, gut, level. But with persistence, this change does take

place.

Please come back, read and post.

Sylvia

>

> One good thing is that I do have a room at my sister's in-law's

place. But I

> do come back home for food and also, I realize out of a sense of

guilt. I

> already moved out once but that failed--I do see a Psychotherapist-

-she has

> helped me and the books I have on BP have helped me a lot, too,

but I feel as if

> there is no escape, in a sense, especially since most of my family

has the

> disorder. I can't just forget them or move out completely...My

mother, who I

> think has it worst out of everyone, makes me feel that if I do

move out, she

> would 'get me back' (which is probably just her fear of

abandonement speaking)

> and 'abandon' me, i.e., through lack of financial support, etc. On

one hand,

> I feel that once I graduate from school I can support myself, but

on the

> other hand, I feel as if I need her, I think this is something

she has instilled

> in me rather than it being the reality of the circumstance.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Hello, and welcome!

It is so good for you that you recognize the illnesses of your

family members. You need to also learn how being raised by BPD

parents affects you. As a psychology student, you are aware of how

early childhood experiences can wire us for the rest of our lives.

Your comment, that you feel like you 'need' your mother, and that it

is something she instilled in you is the main reason for my writing

this. A healthy parent raises their children to be self-sufficient,

and not dependent upon others. I believe your instincts are right,

that she has instilled it in you. It is she who feels she needs

you, and she is afraid of losing you, so she is doing things to tie

you to her. It will be up to you to reverse your thinking on this.

My experience has been that I was able to first intellectually

understand, but it took me a much longer time to understand at an

emotional, gut, level. But with persistence, this change does take

place.

Please come back, read and post.

Sylvia

>

> One good thing is that I do have a room at my sister's in-law's

place. But I

> do come back home for food and also, I realize out of a sense of

guilt. I

> already moved out once but that failed--I do see a Psychotherapist-

-she has

> helped me and the books I have on BP have helped me a lot, too,

but I feel as if

> there is no escape, in a sense, especially since most of my family

has the

> disorder. I can't just forget them or move out completely...My

mother, who I

> think has it worst out of everyone, makes me feel that if I do

move out, she

> would 'get me back' (which is probably just her fear of

abandonement speaking)

> and 'abandon' me, i.e., through lack of financial support, etc. On

one hand,

> I feel that once I graduate from school I can support myself, but

on the

> other hand, I feel as if I need her, I think this is something

she has instilled

> in me rather than it being the reality of the circumstance.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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We all hoped it wouldn't be so hard, yet it is.

I just wanted to say, maybe changing therapist isn't such a bad idea.

I did and what a difference it has made for me.

My previous therapist did help me, but all she ever told me in regard

to my nada was keep my armor on and protect myself from her. My armor

was rusting, and I just was worn out.

My new therapist is wonderful and she has helped me in so many ways.

Good luck in your journey....

Malinda

>

> Sylvia

>

>

> Your words are very truthful, and I am happy that someone is

validating my

> experiences. Even my own therapist doesn't validate me much about

the impact

> of this disorder--maybe she doesn't have the experience of how

devastating it

> is as I have. Maybe I should find another therapist. I'm

constantly looking

> for ways to improve my life. I just wish it didn't have to be so

hard....

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

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We all hoped it wouldn't be so hard, yet it is.

I just wanted to say, maybe changing therapist isn't such a bad idea.

I did and what a difference it has made for me.

My previous therapist did help me, but all she ever told me in regard

to my nada was keep my armor on and protect myself from her. My armor

was rusting, and I just was worn out.

My new therapist is wonderful and she has helped me in so many ways.

Good luck in your journey....

Malinda

>

> Sylvia

>

>

> Your words are very truthful, and I am happy that someone is

validating my

> experiences. Even my own therapist doesn't validate me much about

the impact

> of this disorder--maybe she doesn't have the experience of how

devastating it

> is as I have. Maybe I should find another therapist. I'm

constantly looking

> for ways to improve my life. I just wish it didn't have to be so

hard....

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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If you have a 3.4 GPA with all that you are dealing with, then you

should be very, very proud of yourself. I think if you can get out

of your parents home, it will cause a great deal of improvement in

your life.

I understand the desire to go to graduate school. But that can be

done at a later time. There are several things in the offing for

you. Your graduation, of course. Getting a job and being self-

sufficient. There are options out there that you probably haven't

considered, because our BPD parents try to keep us locked into

certain scenarios. I think if you can get out from under your

family, and just give yourself time to decompress, you will start to

see these other options. You really need to be able to feel free to

be yourself, and I think that can only be done when you are

physically removed from you BPD family.

Take care,

Sylvia

>

> I appreciate your comments and advice. I do plan on moving out;

right now

> I'm a full-time student and have that as my excuse for not wanting

to do

> anything but go to school. I do want to work but I feel

overwhelmed with doing

> school-work and dealing with the emotional issues that results

from being part of

> an environment with several people with BP. I am graduating,

officially

> September 1st, and even though I do want to eagerly attend

graduate school for

> social work, I believe I have to put it off since it just won't

work. My college

> transcript isn't very pretty( I have several W-withdrawal grades

from when I

> was overwhelmed with the verbal abuse and constant noise in my

house--I

> didn't have the alternate place to go to that I have now, which I

am grateful

> for. I do feel as if this is just a temporary fix, in other

words, I need my own

> place, in my opinion). I am still very proud that my GPA is a 3.4

which is

> due to a lot of hard work, more so than was needed, because of

the " negative

> energy " that was pulling me down; it is as if this environment

was set-up for

> failure or complacency with low achievement.

>

> I believe I deserve better than this life. I see people enjoying

their lives

> and successful and I want to be part of that. My dad does hold

down two

> jobs, but my mother is so controlling that she doesn't even let

him be

> independent. He seems just as oppressed as me, but supposedly, he

is supposed to be the

> Man of The House. I see his dependence and helpless attitude and

become sad

> and hopeless. I need help, I do see a Psychologist, but sometimes

I believe I

> need GOD because the ongoing and past issues are horrible. My

sister has it a

> lot worse....I have strived and have some independence, e.g., a

bank

> account, credit cards, and almost a Bachelor's degree with some

work experience.

> She doesn't have much, except for a boyfriend, who has some sort

of mood

> disorder himself--although he is a nice guy. I'm trying hard. I

care about my

> family, even though they have caused many emotional scars. I do

feel stronger

> emotionally from the bad experiences, and my character has

developed, but I'm

> ready for more, I'm ready and desiring more achievement and most

of all, peace

> of mind.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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If you have a 3.4 GPA with all that you are dealing with, then you

should be very, very proud of yourself. I think if you can get out

of your parents home, it will cause a great deal of improvement in

your life.

I understand the desire to go to graduate school. But that can be

done at a later time. There are several things in the offing for

you. Your graduation, of course. Getting a job and being self-

sufficient. There are options out there that you probably haven't

considered, because our BPD parents try to keep us locked into

certain scenarios. I think if you can get out from under your

family, and just give yourself time to decompress, you will start to

see these other options. You really need to be able to feel free to

be yourself, and I think that can only be done when you are

physically removed from you BPD family.

Take care,

Sylvia

>

> I appreciate your comments and advice. I do plan on moving out;

right now

> I'm a full-time student and have that as my excuse for not wanting

to do

> anything but go to school. I do want to work but I feel

overwhelmed with doing

> school-work and dealing with the emotional issues that results

from being part of

> an environment with several people with BP. I am graduating,

officially

> September 1st, and even though I do want to eagerly attend

graduate school for

> social work, I believe I have to put it off since it just won't

work. My college

> transcript isn't very pretty( I have several W-withdrawal grades

from when I

> was overwhelmed with the verbal abuse and constant noise in my

house--I

> didn't have the alternate place to go to that I have now, which I

am grateful

> for. I do feel as if this is just a temporary fix, in other

words, I need my own

> place, in my opinion). I am still very proud that my GPA is a 3.4

which is

> due to a lot of hard work, more so than was needed, because of

the " negative

> energy " that was pulling me down; it is as if this environment

was set-up for

> failure or complacency with low achievement.

>

> I believe I deserve better than this life. I see people enjoying

their lives

> and successful and I want to be part of that. My dad does hold

down two

> jobs, but my mother is so controlling that she doesn't even let

him be

> independent. He seems just as oppressed as me, but supposedly, he

is supposed to be the

> Man of The House. I see his dependence and helpless attitude and

become sad

> and hopeless. I need help, I do see a Psychologist, but sometimes

I believe I

> need GOD because the ongoing and past issues are horrible. My

sister has it a

> lot worse....I have strived and have some independence, e.g., a

bank

> account, credit cards, and almost a Bachelor's degree with some

work experience.

> She doesn't have much, except for a boyfriend, who has some sort

of mood

> disorder himself--although he is a nice guy. I'm trying hard. I

care about my

> family, even though they have caused many emotional scars. I do

feel stronger

> emotionally from the bad experiences, and my character has

developed, but I'm

> ready for more, I'm ready and desiring more achievement and most

of all, peace

> of mind.

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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I agree with Sylvia -- get the distance between you first, then you

can soar.

Can you do something that makes a quite radical break for a while,

like teach English in Japan, or get a temporary visa to work in

Europe? What about an internship in social work in Appalachia or

someplace? Your college office should have info on these programs,

many of which offer room and board.

I did this kind of stuff at your age (although I was pretty broke) and

I cannot emphasize how great it was to be ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE

WORLD from my FOO. I remember walking down streets in Europe, thinking

" Hey, they have NO IDEA where I am right now! They can't call, they

can't even write! " Bliss.

It'll also help with your grad school apps, if you feel your grades

are weak. Though hey, to get a perfectly good 3.4 living with your

family predicts a brilliant future once you are free!

You sound like a very smart and together person. I am sure that once

you are the one manning the ship, you can sail anywhere you like.

I used to look at happy and successful people with wonder, like they

were almost another species. Now I'm one of them, and getting happier

and more successful all the time.

You'll get there too. Really, you will. Sounds like you are already on

the path.

I'm sure the pain seems overwhelming now at times, but it will fade as

your real life, the life you are meant to have, grows.

One slight caveat -- they may try to clip your wings a bit as they see

you flying away (my crazy bro even tried to get me to give up a

hard-earned trip to Europe since he hadn't been yet, and I was

" deliberately embarassing him and showing him up " by going. Lucky I

didn't wait for him to go first, or I would have waited twenty years!)

Don't get sucked in by guilt and manipulation, just make your break

and don't look back...

> >

> > I appreciate your comments and advice. I do plan on moving out;

> right now

> > I'm a full-time student and have that as my excuse for not wanting

> to do

> > anything but go to school. I do want to work but I feel

> overwhelmed with doing

> > school-work and dealing with the emotional issues that results

> from being part of

> > an environment with several people with BP. I am graduating,

> officially

> > September 1st, and even though I do want to eagerly attend

> graduate school for

> > social work, I believe I have to put it off since it just won't

> work. My college

> > transcript isn't very pretty( I have several W-withdrawal grades

> from when I

> > was overwhelmed with the verbal abuse and constant noise in my

> house--I

> > didn't have the alternate place to go to that I have now, which I

> am grateful

> > for. I do feel as if this is just a temporary fix, in other

> words, I need my own

> > place, in my opinion). I am still very proud that my GPA is a 3.4

> which is

> > due to a lot of hard work, more so than was needed, because of

> the " negative

> > energy " that was pulling me down; it is as if this environment

> was set-up for

> > failure or complacency with low achievement.

> >

> > I believe I deserve better than this life. I see people enjoying

> their lives

> > and successful and I want to be part of that. My dad does hold

> down two

> > jobs, but my mother is so controlling that she doesn't even let

> him be

> > independent. He seems just as oppressed as me, but supposedly, he

> is supposed to be the

> > Man of The House. I see his dependence and helpless attitude and

> become sad

> > and hopeless. I need help, I do see a Psychologist, but sometimes

> I believe I

> > need GOD because the ongoing and past issues are horrible. My

> sister has it a

> > lot worse....I have strived and have some independence, e.g., a

> bank

> > account, credit cards, and almost a Bachelor's degree with some

> work experience.

> > She doesn't have much, except for a boyfriend, who has some sort

> of mood

> > disorder himself--although he is a nice guy. I'm trying hard. I

> care about my

> > family, even though they have caused many emotional scars. I do

> feel stronger

> > emotionally from the bad experiences, and my character has

> developed, but I'm

> > ready for more, I'm ready and desiring more achievement and most

> of all, peace

> > of mind.

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

> >

> >

> >

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I agree with Sylvia -- get the distance between you first, then you

can soar.

Can you do something that makes a quite radical break for a while,

like teach English in Japan, or get a temporary visa to work in

Europe? What about an internship in social work in Appalachia or

someplace? Your college office should have info on these programs,

many of which offer room and board.

I did this kind of stuff at your age (although I was pretty broke) and

I cannot emphasize how great it was to be ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE

WORLD from my FOO. I remember walking down streets in Europe, thinking

" Hey, they have NO IDEA where I am right now! They can't call, they

can't even write! " Bliss.

It'll also help with your grad school apps, if you feel your grades

are weak. Though hey, to get a perfectly good 3.4 living with your

family predicts a brilliant future once you are free!

You sound like a very smart and together person. I am sure that once

you are the one manning the ship, you can sail anywhere you like.

I used to look at happy and successful people with wonder, like they

were almost another species. Now I'm one of them, and getting happier

and more successful all the time.

You'll get there too. Really, you will. Sounds like you are already on

the path.

I'm sure the pain seems overwhelming now at times, but it will fade as

your real life, the life you are meant to have, grows.

One slight caveat -- they may try to clip your wings a bit as they see

you flying away (my crazy bro even tried to get me to give up a

hard-earned trip to Europe since he hadn't been yet, and I was

" deliberately embarassing him and showing him up " by going. Lucky I

didn't wait for him to go first, or I would have waited twenty years!)

Don't get sucked in by guilt and manipulation, just make your break

and don't look back...

> >

> > I appreciate your comments and advice. I do plan on moving out;

> right now

> > I'm a full-time student and have that as my excuse for not wanting

> to do

> > anything but go to school. I do want to work but I feel

> overwhelmed with doing

> > school-work and dealing with the emotional issues that results

> from being part of

> > an environment with several people with BP. I am graduating,

> officially

> > September 1st, and even though I do want to eagerly attend

> graduate school for

> > social work, I believe I have to put it off since it just won't

> work. My college

> > transcript isn't very pretty( I have several W-withdrawal grades

> from when I

> > was overwhelmed with the verbal abuse and constant noise in my

> house--I

> > didn't have the alternate place to go to that I have now, which I

> am grateful

> > for. I do feel as if this is just a temporary fix, in other

> words, I need my own

> > place, in my opinion). I am still very proud that my GPA is a 3.4

> which is

> > due to a lot of hard work, more so than was needed, because of

> the " negative

> > energy " that was pulling me down; it is as if this environment

> was set-up for

> > failure or complacency with low achievement.

> >

> > I believe I deserve better than this life. I see people enjoying

> their lives

> > and successful and I want to be part of that. My dad does hold

> down two

> > jobs, but my mother is so controlling that she doesn't even let

> him be

> > independent. He seems just as oppressed as me, but supposedly, he

> is supposed to be the

> > Man of The House. I see his dependence and helpless attitude and

> become sad

> > and hopeless. I need help, I do see a Psychologist, but sometimes

> I believe I

> > need GOD because the ongoing and past issues are horrible. My

> sister has it a

> > lot worse....I have strived and have some independence, e.g., a

> bank

> > account, credit cards, and almost a Bachelor's degree with some

> work experience.

> > She doesn't have much, except for a boyfriend, who has some sort

> of mood

> > disorder himself--although he is a nice guy. I'm trying hard. I

> care about my

> > family, even though they have caused many emotional scars. I do

> feel stronger

> > emotionally from the bad experiences, and my character has

> developed, but I'm

> > ready for more, I'm ready and desiring more achievement and most

> of all, peace

> > of mind.

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

> >

> >

> >

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welcome...get out and away from them...and please sign your posts :-)

Jackie

Hi--I'm 24 and have been living with borderline parents for years. Also, my

sister who is 31 is divorced and also a BP. I am a Psychology student and I

am

very interested in Clinical Psych. but the anxiety that my BP mom project

is

enormous. I can't seem to just be at peace...I feel that this house is a

house full of BPs and I don't know what to do.

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welcome...get out and away from them...and please sign your posts :-)

Jackie

Hi--I'm 24 and have been living with borderline parents for years. Also, my

sister who is 31 is divorced and also a BP. I am a Psychology student and I

am

very interested in Clinical Psych. but the anxiety that my BP mom project

is

enormous. I can't seem to just be at peace...I feel that this house is a

house full of BPs and I don't know what to do.

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Well it's still pretty early in the process for you...here is what I would

suggest: Try to focus on what they are saying and the tone in which they are

saying things...focus on the things that bother you...ask yourself if you can

find a way to shelter yourself from the behavior....take mental notes. Prepare

yourself for future events...are you planning on going LC or NC?? If you are

preparing to go NC then just scratch it off as one LESS event you will have to

attend...if you are preparing to go LC then listen to what they are saying and

see if you can file away the nasty remarks as just common negative comments.

Remember, you have very little control over the action..you have total control

over the re-action. Here are some ideas for you if you really feel like you

can't take anymore:

Answer questions with more questions....if you can, pose the question to another

member of the family to get the volley moving to another part of the court.

Example of discussion:

My Nada: Well, isn't this nice...Angel I noticed that you at least attempted to

do SOMETHING with your hair...it's a shame you have let your hair go, when you

were little I always made sure your hair looked nice...i worked an extra job for

you kids and this is how you re-pay me...are you trying to tell me something?

Me:You know, you're right mom..Aunt Sue...where do you get your hair done?? how

much does it cost?? Mom..what do you think of Aunt Sue's hair?

Of course, take notice that your next birthday present may not be a very good

one for Aunt Sue this year...expect to get a subscription for Aunt Sue's

boutique...don't sweat it though, you can always burn it later.

If that doesn't work then I try to imagine the entire event as a Saturday Night

Live Skit...if all else fails, feign a stomach ache, find a bathroom within

earshot and camp out in there. (I used to hide a book under the sink and hunker

down for the long haul) Make the loudest wretching noises as you can...you will

clear the dinner party out pretty quickly...and yes I am being serious...it

really does work for me. Good luck...keep us posted!

XX5000X@... wrote: Passover is here

and my BP family will all come together tonight at the

dinner--I feel the anxiety already......................................any

advice for me, please?

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Yes, the right therapist can really make a world of difference. Mine

is a family therapist who has a very good understanding of BPD.

Actually, if you find a therapist certified in Dialectical Behavioral

Therapy, even if you don't want to do DBT yourself (I started a

thread on this topic, in case you're interested), you would know that

this person has a lot of knowledge about BPD and might be a good one

to help you. Best wishes!

Tara

>

> Sylvia

>

>

> Your words are very truthful, and I am happy that someone is

validating my

> experiences. Even my own therapist doesn't validate me much about

the impact

> of this disorder--maybe she doesn't have the experience of how

devastating it

> is as I have. Maybe I should find another therapist. I'm

constantly looking

> for ways to improve my life. I just wish it didn't have to be so

hard....

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Yes, the right therapist can really make a world of difference. Mine

is a family therapist who has a very good understanding of BPD.

Actually, if you find a therapist certified in Dialectical Behavioral

Therapy, even if you don't want to do DBT yourself (I started a

thread on this topic, in case you're interested), you would know that

this person has a lot of knowledge about BPD and might be a good one

to help you. Best wishes!

Tara

>

> Sylvia

>

>

> Your words are very truthful, and I am happy that someone is

validating my

> experiences. Even my own therapist doesn't validate me much about

the impact

> of this disorder--maybe she doesn't have the experience of how

devastating it

> is as I have. Maybe I should find another therapist. I'm

constantly looking

> for ways to improve my life. I just wish it didn't have to be so

hard....

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Yes, the right therapist can really make a world of difference. Mine

is a family therapist who has a very good understanding of BPD.

Actually, if you find a therapist certified in Dialectical Behavioral

Therapy, even if you don't want to do DBT yourself (I started a

thread on this topic, in case you're interested), you would know that

this person has a lot of knowledge about BPD and might be a good one

to help you. Best wishes!

Tara

>

> Sylvia

>

>

> Your words are very truthful, and I am happy that someone is

validating my

> experiences. Even my own therapist doesn't validate me much about

the impact

> of this disorder--maybe she doesn't have the experience of how

devastating it

> is as I have. Maybe I should find another therapist. I'm

constantly looking

> for ways to improve my life. I just wish it didn't have to be so

hard....

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Hi and welcome! You should have received a list of abbreviations in an

email when you joined. Maybe you missed it in your inbox?

Melany

>

> Can someone please send me a list of the abbreviations--I'm fairly

new here

> and I am having trouble knowing what they stand for. Thanks

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Hi and welcome! You should have received a list of abbreviations in an

email when you joined. Maybe you missed it in your inbox?

Melany

>

> Can someone please send me a list of the abbreviations--I'm fairly

new here

> and I am having trouble knowing what they stand for. Thanks

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