Guest guest Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I was diagnosed this week w/Sjogren's. It adds insult to the injury, another problem to deal with. The dr said 90% of Sjögren's patients are female, does anyone know why? Is Sjogrens an autoimmune disease or is it a condition that can happens when you already have an autoimmune disease? Thanks for any advice and input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:51 PM, chloe wrote: > Is Sjogrens an autoimmune disease or is it a condition that can happens when you already have an autoimmune disease? I, too, have been diagnosed with Sjogren's. There is no test fir Sjogren's. But I have had the terrible problem of eyelids sticking to swelled cornea overnight which left scarring so bad I can no longer see well enough to drive. This was the symptom leading to diagnosis of Sjogren's after an extremely painful cheek (parotid gland) in 2006 led ENT doc to suspect Sjogren's. General dryness is a symptom of the problems of the nervous system (PANS) diagnosis, Orthostatic Intolerance. My eyelid stopped sticking to cornea when taking 1/4 antihistamine 4 times a day, or some every day. OI patients have less than ideal levels of blood volume making us extra sensitive to everything. Think about it. My blood volume was tested at 75% of normal. Twenty five % less blood volume than my body needs to function normally means every food, drug, smell, I eat, take in is a concentrated dose. My blood volume level is not enough for a normal reaction to normal levels of even necessary body chemicals such as insulin. Right amount of insulin released from having eaten anything is too much insulin for my low blood volume to absorb and distribute appropriately. That's why it helps to avoid most (except green) carbohydrates which cause more release of insulin than meat, fresh green vegetables, saturated and mono-unsaturated fats. Sjogren's to me is a side effect of PANS caused by low blood volume such as dryness and too much of otherwise normal doses of whatever caused my cornea to swell (maybe mold in basement). Tiny regular doses of antihistamine resolved the swelling of my cornea stopping the cycle if swelling and scarring. Thank god. The other things to treat Sjogren's are the same things that treat, to whatever extent is possible, Orthostatic Intolerance: - salt (sea salt added to my unprocessed food); - lots of water throughout the day; - no carbs except greens (dark chocolate [with less sugar, no milk] offers benefits to OI, CFS, FMS patients) and occasionally rice. Read more about OI and Sjogren's here: What is Orthostatic Intolerance (POTS, NMH, MVPS): http://www.cfsnova.com/qnaOI.html and Sjogren's Syndrome Foundation: 1- sjogrens.org/ (They call it an autoimmune disease. I prefer my understanding of CFS & OI to explain symptoms. tm) toni cf-alliance.tripod.com/ from iPod Touch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:51 PM, chloe wrote: > Is Sjogrens an autoimmune disease or is it a condition that can happens when you already have an autoimmune disease? I, too, have been diagnosed with Sjogren's. There is no test fir Sjogren's. But I have had the terrible problem of eyelids sticking to swelled cornea overnight which left scarring so bad I can no longer see well enough to drive. This was the symptom leading to diagnosis of Sjogren's after an extremely painful cheek (parotid gland) in 2006 led ENT doc to suspect Sjogren's. General dryness is a symptom of the problems of the nervous system (PANS) diagnosis, Orthostatic Intolerance. My eyelid stopped sticking to cornea when taking 1/4 antihistamine 4 times a day, or some every day. OI patients have less than ideal levels of blood volume making us extra sensitive to everything. Think about it. My blood volume was tested at 75% of normal. Twenty five % less blood volume than my body needs to function normally means every food, drug, smell, I eat, take in is a concentrated dose. My blood volume level is not enough for a normal reaction to normal levels of even necessary body chemicals such as insulin. Right amount of insulin released from having eaten anything is too much insulin for my low blood volume to absorb and distribute appropriately. That's why it helps to avoid most (except green) carbohydrates which cause more release of insulin than meat, fresh green vegetables, saturated and mono-unsaturated fats. Sjogren's to me is a side effect of PANS caused by low blood volume such as dryness and too much of otherwise normal doses of whatever caused my cornea to swell (maybe mold in basement). Tiny regular doses of antihistamine resolved the swelling of my cornea stopping the cycle if swelling and scarring. Thank god. The other things to treat Sjogren's are the same things that treat, to whatever extent is possible, Orthostatic Intolerance: - salt (sea salt added to my unprocessed food); - lots of water throughout the day; - no carbs except greens (dark chocolate [with less sugar, no milk] offers benefits to OI, CFS, FMS patients) and occasionally rice. Read more about OI and Sjogren's here: What is Orthostatic Intolerance (POTS, NMH, MVPS): http://www.cfsnova.com/qnaOI.html and Sjogren's Syndrome Foundation: 1- sjogrens.org/ (They call it an autoimmune disease. I prefer my understanding of CFS & OI to explain symptoms. tm) toni cf-alliance.tripod.com/ from iPod Touch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:51 PM, chloe wrote: > Is Sjogrens an autoimmune disease or is it a condition that can happens when you already have an autoimmune disease? I, too, have been diagnosed with Sjogren's. There is no test fir Sjogren's. But I have had the terrible problem of eyelids sticking to swelled cornea overnight which left scarring so bad I can no longer see well enough to drive. This was the symptom leading to diagnosis of Sjogren's after an extremely painful cheek (parotid gland) in 2006 led ENT doc to suspect Sjogren's. General dryness is a symptom of the problems of the nervous system (PANS) diagnosis, Orthostatic Intolerance. My eyelid stopped sticking to cornea when taking 1/4 antihistamine 4 times a day, or some every day. OI patients have less than ideal levels of blood volume making us extra sensitive to everything. Think about it. My blood volume was tested at 75% of normal. Twenty five % less blood volume than my body needs to function normally means every food, drug, smell, I eat, take in is a concentrated dose. My blood volume level is not enough for a normal reaction to normal levels of even necessary body chemicals such as insulin. Right amount of insulin released from having eaten anything is too much insulin for my low blood volume to absorb and distribute appropriately. That's why it helps to avoid most (except green) carbohydrates which cause more release of insulin than meat, fresh green vegetables, saturated and mono-unsaturated fats. Sjogren's to me is a side effect of PANS caused by low blood volume such as dryness and too much of otherwise normal doses of whatever caused my cornea to swell (maybe mold in basement). Tiny regular doses of antihistamine resolved the swelling of my cornea stopping the cycle if swelling and scarring. Thank god. The other things to treat Sjogren's are the same things that treat, to whatever extent is possible, Orthostatic Intolerance: - salt (sea salt added to my unprocessed food); - lots of water throughout the day; - no carbs except greens (dark chocolate [with less sugar, no milk] offers benefits to OI, CFS, FMS patients) and occasionally rice. Read more about OI and Sjogren's here: What is Orthostatic Intolerance (POTS, NMH, MVPS): http://www.cfsnova.com/qnaOI.html and Sjogren's Syndrome Foundation: 1- sjogrens.org/ (They call it an autoimmune disease. I prefer my understanding of CFS & OI to explain symptoms. tm) toni cf-alliance.tripod.com/ from iPod Touch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Hi, " The dr said 90% of Sjögren's patients are female, does anyone know why? " Sjogrens is an autoimmune condition, caused by the immune system attacking cells that generally excrete mucus, saliva and other fluids. Like (virtually) every other autoimmune condition, it occurs predominantly in females. Typical ratio range from 60% to 90% female. The biology behind that isn't nailed down yet, altho the thinking tends to be that females are more susceptible to autoimmune conditions because of their immune systems having to be ready to allow the growth of an antigenically strange fetus in their body. I think there has been some work on whether women who have been pregnant have more autoimmune conditions, but just can't recall at this moment whether there was a difference or not. I do know that more pregnancies do not make you less susceptible to autoimmunity. There was a very exciting research development just recently, showing that people with a certain HLA type are at much higher risk for autoimmunity in general and many autoimmune conditions in particular. This risk is in both sexes. The HLA genes are involved in cell-cell recognition, and in the development of both cellular and humoral (antibody) immunity, so it makes sense that some HAL types would be more at risk. The real excitement lies in the fact that there is only one HLA type that is at high risk. That could oviously allow for better monitoring of those at risk. Eventually there could be medication or some form of genetic modification that could lead to the elimination of this predisposition, but that is decades away at least. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Hi, " The dr said 90% of Sjögren's patients are female, does anyone know why? " Sjogrens is an autoimmune condition, caused by the immune system attacking cells that generally excrete mucus, saliva and other fluids. Like (virtually) every other autoimmune condition, it occurs predominantly in females. Typical ratio range from 60% to 90% female. The biology behind that isn't nailed down yet, altho the thinking tends to be that females are more susceptible to autoimmune conditions because of their immune systems having to be ready to allow the growth of an antigenically strange fetus in their body. I think there has been some work on whether women who have been pregnant have more autoimmune conditions, but just can't recall at this moment whether there was a difference or not. I do know that more pregnancies do not make you less susceptible to autoimmunity. There was a very exciting research development just recently, showing that people with a certain HLA type are at much higher risk for autoimmunity in general and many autoimmune conditions in particular. This risk is in both sexes. The HLA genes are involved in cell-cell recognition, and in the development of both cellular and humoral (antibody) immunity, so it makes sense that some HAL types would be more at risk. The real excitement lies in the fact that there is only one HLA type that is at high risk. That could oviously allow for better monitoring of those at risk. Eventually there could be medication or some form of genetic modification that could lead to the elimination of this predisposition, but that is decades away at least. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Thank you for your very helpful message. > > Hi Chloe, > > Sorry you got diagnosed with another condition. I saw someone else answered your question about why is it mostly women who get Sjogren's. I agree with their answer. > > I have presumptive Sjogren's. There are tests for it: a) blood tests looking for two different antibody factors, biopsies of the parotid (major salivary) glands and of the minor salivary glands that are scattered through-out your cheeks and lips. The biopsies can show these two antibodies factors. and 3) an eye test that shows diminished tear flow to the eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Thank you for your very helpful message. > > Hi Chloe, > > Sorry you got diagnosed with another condition. I saw someone else answered your question about why is it mostly women who get Sjogren's. I agree with their answer. > > I have presumptive Sjogren's. There are tests for it: a) blood tests looking for two different antibody factors, biopsies of the parotid (major salivary) glands and of the minor salivary glands that are scattered through-out your cheeks and lips. The biopsies can show these two antibodies factors. and 3) an eye test that shows diminished tear flow to the eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Hi all, , Does a medical doctor give the Sjogren's diagnosis? I too have the presumptive Sjogrens from my dentist. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hi . I would certainly tell your primary care doctor that your dentist thinks you have Sjogren's. I think s/he will refer you to a rheumatologist for the actual diagnosis. There is no reason why a primary care doctor couldn't give you the diagnosis other than not being comfortable in matters outside their specialty. The diagnosis is very important info for all of your doctors. Early diagnosis is better. It'll help get you the care you need. Good luck > > Hi all, > > , > > Does a medical doctor give the Sjogren's diagnosis? I too have the > presumptive Sjogrens from my dentist. > > Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hi . I would certainly tell your primary care doctor that your dentist thinks you have Sjogren's. I think s/he will refer you to a rheumatologist for the actual diagnosis. There is no reason why a primary care doctor couldn't give you the diagnosis other than not being comfortable in matters outside their specialty. The diagnosis is very important info for all of your doctors. Early diagnosis is better. It'll help get you the care you need. Good luck > > Hi all, > > , > > Does a medical doctor give the Sjogren's diagnosis? I too have the > presumptive Sjogrens from my dentist. > > Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hi . I would certainly tell your primary care doctor that your dentist thinks you have Sjogren's. I think s/he will refer you to a rheumatologist for the actual diagnosis. There is no reason why a primary care doctor couldn't give you the diagnosis other than not being comfortable in matters outside their specialty. The diagnosis is very important info for all of your doctors. Early diagnosis is better. It'll help get you the care you need. Good luck > > Hi all, > > , > > Does a medical doctor give the Sjogren's diagnosis? I too have the > presumptive Sjogrens from my dentist. > > Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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