Re: new doctor and suboxone

[Guest guest]

Steve M...

No, it does not!  But, in my case--I became very DEPENDENT on the pain

medication---and therefore was always anticipating when I could take another---

It is so WONDERFUL not to be feeling that way any longer...Sometimes, it helps

just to detox off of what is in our system--and start over again.

I had such terrible pain while ON pain killers---that is just AMAZING to me that

once I got off of them---and started taking Cymbalta---that I have more good

days than bad.  I never would have believed that I could survive without pain

killers....I am thinking that when I have a flare-up--I will probably need

SOMETHING to help with the pain.....but, not as much as I used to take.

Lynn

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Subject: Re: new doctor and suboxone

Taking a certain number of pain pills per day does NOT make someone an

addict*.*

[Guest guest]

Steve M...

No, it does not!  But, in my case--I became very DEPENDENT on the pain

medication---and therefore was always anticipating when I could take another---

It is so WONDERFUL not to be feeling that way any longer...Sometimes, it helps

just to detox off of what is in our system--and start over again.

I had such terrible pain while ON pain killers---that is just AMAZING to me that

once I got off of them---and started taking Cymbalta---that I have more good

days than bad.  I never would have believed that I could survive without pain

killers....I am thinking that when I have a flare-up--I will probably need

SOMETHING to help with the pain.....but, not as much as I used to take.

Lynn

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Subject: Re: new doctor and suboxone

Taking a certain number of pain pills per day does NOT make someone an

addict*.*

[Guest guest]

Steve M...

No, it does not!  But, in my case--I became very DEPENDENT on the pain

medication---and therefore was always anticipating when I could take another---

It is so WONDERFUL not to be feeling that way any longer...Sometimes, it helps

just to detox off of what is in our system--and start over again.

I had such terrible pain while ON pain killers---that is just AMAZING to me that

once I got off of them---and started taking Cymbalta---that I have more good

days than bad.  I never would have believed that I could survive without pain

killers....I am thinking that when I have a flare-up--I will probably need

SOMETHING to help with the pain.....but, not as much as I used to take.

Lynn

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Subject: Re: new doctor and suboxone

Taking a certain number of pain pills per day does NOT make someone an

addict*.*

[Guest guest]

i hate the suboxone which has thrown me into withdrawals i have not been

able to walk or shower or eat in three days i have been on them i pawn

mymothers necklace to pay for this idiot doctor who didn't explain anything to

me i cant take anything i mean anything when you take suboxone and it does

nothing for my pain i have a aptpt with him on Monday if i live that long

the way i feel i should be in a hospital i have bbeen cheating and taking

neutotin for pain but i was told to only take motrin alve 0or ibupron yeah

right i feel terrrible i cant sleep eat walk dont want to talk, i think i will

try to get out of bed tomorrow get a ride to release my recird to another

pain manger near me but i know he does not write roxy or oxy but i dont

care i need anything for pan that last longterm with 7 herniated disk a brain

cycst fibro spinal stenoisis ebv this end up cutting them stuff doed

nothing for my pain i cant even open them right its a fil you put under your

tongue it taste nassty and i end up cutting them trying to open them , i nned

help what doctor should i try to get pai nmeds for my back?

netty

In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:43:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

rmcmillen@... writes:

I second what Steve says. This hysteria that is going on nationwide

regarding painkillers is infuriating to me. For me, my four tablets a day of

Morphine ER are a Godsend. And yes, I NEED them. Yet, until I did a ridiculous

amount of doctor shopping to find a sympathetic rheumatologist, I was

treated like a drug addict too by way too many internal medicine doctors.

Besides

my list of ailments, CFS, Fibro, I am also a porph, porphyria, Which means

there is a short list of rxes that I can safely take without triggering a

porph attack. And at this point in my life, a porph attack could kill me.

So I need meds that are as natural as possible. Morphine is great for me.

[Guest guest]

..

This is good to share....because sometimes, I think that we get caught up in a

vicious cycle of what I call " rebound pain " from the the meds....

AND, the meds can also increase our sensitivity to pain. SO, good to stay clear

of the opiates...if possible....and try to manage with less addictive

medications like Cymbalta and Tramadol. I used to use Darvocet for break-through

pain...and worked wonders--only needed a small amount to stop the pain

cycle....and then wouldn't need one for another few days or even weeks....BUT,

they have taken Darvocet off the market--and my pain management doc said that

there isn't anything LIKE IT out there......

Lynn

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Subject: Re: new doctor and suboxone

Lynn,

I had pretty much the same problem; severe pain while on 150 mcg or Fentanyl and

40 mg Oxycodone per day. When I detoxed in the s Hopkins pain treatment

program, I felt no additional pain without the narcotics than I did with. After

no narcotics for two years, my breakthrough pain got so bad I went on methadone.

The more I took, the worse the pain got.

Finally, my neurologist and pain docs got together and told me that I had

'opiate analgesia,' a condition in which the use of opiates actually INCREASES

the sensitivity of the pain receptors, causing more pain. The higher the opiate

level, the more sensitive the nerves, the higher the pain -the vicious cycle.