Question

[Guest guest]

Hi Dee,

I have problems sleeping as well. I use a lot of pillows and I most

definitely sleep better on a waterbed.

As for the pain's in my hips, yes I get those too. Mostly the left. I don't

know if it is Chiari related or not. I haven't been able to find a competent

doctor yet.

I just wanted to let you know that you're not alone. I keep all of you guys

in my prayers and will continue praying for all.

Love and Hugs

Kim

[Guest guest]

Hi Dee,

I have problems sleeping as well. I use a lot of pillows and I most

definitely sleep better on a waterbed.

As for the pain's in my hips, yes I get those too. Mostly the left. I don't

know if it is Chiari related or not. I haven't been able to find a competent

doctor yet.

I just wanted to let you know that you're not alone. I keep all of you guys

in my prayers and will continue praying for all.

Love and Hugs

Kim

[Guest guest]

Hi Ms Fighead,

I wish I could answer your question. I'm type II not type I, and don't take insulin.

If I ate that oatmeal for breakfast it would cause me a bg surge which in turn would cause an insulin surge, then I would be hungry - make that ravenous. If I perservered and didn't eat, I would eventually have a low.

It sounds like your insulin dose needs some fine tuning. If your doctor won't return your calls you need to build a fire under that office. Your calls should be returned - if it isn't an emergency it might not be returned til the next day, but it is inexcusable for them not to be returned in a timely manner.

Maybe this is a problem with the office staff or maybe it is with the doctor. When you do see him/her, you should discuss it with them and if the matter isn't settled to your satisfaction you might want to look for another doctor. This is your health and you are paying (and a lot!) for that doctor to help you with it.

Meenie

Hi everyone

Ive been a bit busy lately so I havent talked much but I have a question. in the past 3 weeks I have been pretty regular with my insulin and getting in down to normal levels. I started a new job a month ago and have gotten into a new routine. I take my normal dose of insulin after testing. my morning sugar is between 80 and 130. So I take 17 R and 17 N and the eat a bowl of regular oatmeal with 1% milk and splenda and a large mug of hot tea with splenda, which I take with me to work. In the last week or so I have had a low BS at around 11:15 in the morning which Im getting better at catching before it goes too low. but this morning I had a low at 9:45 after eating the same thing at the same time of day. I dropped the dose of regular down to 14 R and 17 N this morning just to avoid a low at 11am and it came in earlier. I dont get it. Of course a low for me is 100 since I have been in the 500's until the past month. I even had a 58 at 3 am last week then on at 11 am in the same day. I was worn out by noon, just exusted. I havent done anymore exercise than usual, I work sitting down most of the day. Any idea why I would have a low so early and how I can level this off better because after lunch at 11:30 I have a high of 3:45 or so at 2:30pm. Im trying to count the carbs and cut them where I can. Ive learned to drink Crystal light and Diet Lipton tea, still cant do diet soda(yuck). I have tried to talk to my dr but I am playing phone tag and my next appointment is not till the end of the month and These lows and highs cant be good for me. If nothing else Im so tired after lunch Its hard to get through the rest of the day. Ive started carrying NoDoze to get through the day. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Kerry

[Guest guest]

Hi Ms Fighead,

I wish I could answer your question. I'm type II not type I, and don't take insulin.

If I ate that oatmeal for breakfast it would cause me a bg surge which in turn would cause an insulin surge, then I would be hungry - make that ravenous. If I perservered and didn't eat, I would eventually have a low.

It sounds like your insulin dose needs some fine tuning. If your doctor won't return your calls you need to build a fire under that office. Your calls should be returned - if it isn't an emergency it might not be returned til the next day, but it is inexcusable for them not to be returned in a timely manner.

Maybe this is a problem with the office staff or maybe it is with the doctor. When you do see him/her, you should discuss it with them and if the matter isn't settled to your satisfaction you might want to look for another doctor. This is your health and you are paying (and a lot!) for that doctor to help you with it.

Meenie

Hi everyone

Ive been a bit busy lately so I havent talked much but I have a question. in the past 3 weeks I have been pretty regular with my insulin and getting in down to normal levels. I started a new job a month ago and have gotten into a new routine. I take my normal dose of insulin after testing. my morning sugar is between 80 and 130. So I take 17 R and 17 N and the eat a bowl of regular oatmeal with 1% milk and splenda and a large mug of hot tea with splenda, which I take with me to work. In the last week or so I have had a low BS at around 11:15 in the morning which Im getting better at catching before it goes too low. but this morning I had a low at 9:45 after eating the same thing at the same time of day. I dropped the dose of regular down to 14 R and 17 N this morning just to avoid a low at 11am and it came in earlier. I dont get it. Of course a low for me is 100 since I have been in the 500's until the past month. I even had a 58 at 3 am last week then on at 11 am in the same day. I was worn out by noon, just exusted. I havent done anymore exercise than usual, I work sitting down most of the day. Any idea why I would have a low so early and how I can level this off better because after lunch at 11:30 I have a high of 3:45 or so at 2:30pm. Im trying to count the carbs and cut them where I can. Ive learned to drink Crystal light and Diet Lipton tea, still cant do diet soda(yuck). I have tried to talk to my dr but I am playing phone tag and my next appointment is not till the end of the month and These lows and highs cant be good for me. If nothing else Im so tired after lunch Its hard to get through the rest of the day. Ive started carrying NoDoze to get through the day. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Kerry

[Guest guest]

--- EMUGAL@... wrote:

Hi, Pat!

I think any drug takes a while to " click in " . The

biggest thing I've seen that lowers my Bg levels is

exercise. That's a terrible word, I know. I hate it.

But my best days are those in which I have exerted

myself. Which is difficult because of other health

problems.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

--- EMUGAL@... wrote:

Hi, Pat!

I think any drug takes a while to " click in " . The

biggest thing I've seen that lowers my Bg levels is

exercise. That's a terrible word, I know. I hate it.

But my best days are those in which I have exerted

myself. Which is difficult because of other health

problems.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat, I think I heard it could take a month for glucophage to work.

I felt the same as you when I started on it. But it does take time.

If you feel uncomfortable, call your doctor. They had to put me on a

combination of medication, and I'm still trying to find control.

Debbie in Utah

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat, I think I heard it could take a month for glucophage to work.

I felt the same as you when I started on it. But it does take time.

If you feel uncomfortable, call your doctor. They had to put me on a

combination of medication, and I'm still trying to find control.

Debbie in Utah

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat, I think I heard it could take a month for glucophage to work.

I felt the same as you when I started on it. But it does take time.

If you feel uncomfortable, call your doctor. They had to put me on a

combination of medication, and I'm still trying to find control.

Debbie in Utah

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thank you for your reply. I raise goats and work outside a lot but I need to

get on a regular exercise routine. I know when my BG are up I get moving and

walk it help's.

It may still take time for the Medication to work so I will wait till the end

of next and see if it goes down.

I haven't been able to chew quite right either so maybe that is a factor as

well.

Thank you

Pat

[Guest guest]

I found this on the Glucophage web site:

Loss of control of blood glucose ‹ When a patient stabilized on any diabetic

regimen is exposed

to stress such as fever, trauma, infection, or surgery, a temporary loss of

glycemic control may occur.

At such times, it may be necessary to withhold GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR

and tem-porarily

administer insulin. GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR may be reinstituted after

the acute

episode is resolved.

The effectiveness of oral antidiabetic drugs in lowering blood glucose to a

targeted level decreas-es

in many patients over a period of time. This phenomenon, which may be due to

progression of

the underlying disease or to diminished responsiveness to the drug, is known

as secondary failure,

to distinguish it from primary failure in which the drug is ineffective

during initial therapy. Should

secondary failure occur with either GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR or

sulfonylurea monother-apy,

combined therapy with GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR and sulfonylurea may

result in a

response. Should secondary failure occur with combined

GLUCOPHAGE/sulfonylurea therapy or

GLUCOPHAGE XR/sulfonylurea therapy, it may be necessary to consider

therapeutic alternatives

including initiation of insulin therapy.

Hi,

I need to ask a question. I started on Glucophage a week ago. Now my BG is

higher then it has ever been. I cannot get it down passed 198 no matter what

I do. My BG usually runs 145 - 190 never this high for this long.

I had a lot of dental work done so I don't if it is stress or what.

Any suggestions?

Pat

[Guest guest]

I found this on the Glucophage web site:

Loss of control of blood glucose ‹ When a patient stabilized on any diabetic

regimen is exposed

to stress such as fever, trauma, infection, or surgery, a temporary loss of

glycemic control may occur.

At such times, it may be necessary to withhold GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR

and tem-porarily

administer insulin. GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR may be reinstituted after

the acute

episode is resolved.

The effectiveness of oral antidiabetic drugs in lowering blood glucose to a

targeted level decreas-es

in many patients over a period of time. This phenomenon, which may be due to

progression of

the underlying disease or to diminished responsiveness to the drug, is known

as secondary failure,

to distinguish it from primary failure in which the drug is ineffective

during initial therapy. Should

secondary failure occur with either GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR or

sulfonylurea monother-apy,

combined therapy with GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR and sulfonylurea may

result in a

response. Should secondary failure occur with combined

GLUCOPHAGE/sulfonylurea therapy or

GLUCOPHAGE XR/sulfonylurea therapy, it may be necessary to consider

therapeutic alternatives

including initiation of insulin therapy.

Hi,

I need to ask a question. I started on Glucophage a week ago. Now my BG is

higher then it has ever been. I cannot get it down passed 198 no matter what

I do. My BG usually runs 145 - 190 never this high for this long.

I had a lot of dental work done so I don't if it is stress or what.

Any suggestions?

Pat

[Guest guest]

I found this on the Glucophage web site:

Loss of control of blood glucose ‹ When a patient stabilized on any diabetic

regimen is exposed

to stress such as fever, trauma, infection, or surgery, a temporary loss of

glycemic control may occur.

At such times, it may be necessary to withhold GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR

and tem-porarily

administer insulin. GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR may be reinstituted after

the acute

episode is resolved.

The effectiveness of oral antidiabetic drugs in lowering blood glucose to a

targeted level decreas-es

in many patients over a period of time. This phenomenon, which may be due to

progression of

the underlying disease or to diminished responsiveness to the drug, is known

as secondary failure,

to distinguish it from primary failure in which the drug is ineffective

during initial therapy. Should

secondary failure occur with either GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR or

sulfonylurea monother-apy,

combined therapy with GLUCOPHAGE or GLUCOPHAGE XR and sulfonylurea may

result in a

response. Should secondary failure occur with combined

GLUCOPHAGE/sulfonylurea therapy or

GLUCOPHAGE XR/sulfonylurea therapy, it may be necessary to consider

therapeutic alternatives

including initiation of insulin therapy.

Hi,

I need to ask a question. I started on Glucophage a week ago. Now my BG is

higher then it has ever been. I cannot get it down passed 198 no matter what

I do. My BG usually runs 145 - 190 never this high for this long.

I had a lot of dental work done so I don't if it is stress or what.

Any suggestions?

Pat

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/29/01 12:31:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

petra2000@... writes:

<< The

biggest thing I've seen that lowers my Bg levels is

exercise. >>

Exercise is what works for me. If I eat something I shouldn't, I can

exercise and most of the time, when I check my BGs they will be normal.

Exercise for me can be walking, treadmill or housework.

Eunice

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/29/01 12:31:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

petra2000@... writes:

<< The

biggest thing I've seen that lowers my Bg levels is

exercise. >>

Exercise is what works for me. If I eat something I shouldn't, I can

exercise and most of the time, when I check my BGs they will be normal.

Exercise for me can be walking, treadmill or housework.

Eunice

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/29/01 12:31:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

petra2000@... writes:

<< The

biggest thing I've seen that lowers my Bg levels is

exercise. >>

Exercise is what works for me. If I eat something I shouldn't, I can

exercise and most of the time, when I check my BGs they will be normal.

Exercise for me can be walking, treadmill or housework.

Eunice

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/01 1:02:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sjones@...

writes:

<< There is no right or wrong way of doing it. >>

Hi ,

Your reply to Jan was very well said. Even though I am satisfied with the

way I'm testing, your message just reinforced it for me. Thanks.

Eunice

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/01 1:02:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sjones@...

writes:

<< There is no right or wrong way of doing it. >>

Hi ,

Your reply to Jan was very well said. Even though I am satisfied with the

way I'm testing, your message just reinforced it for me. Thanks.

Eunice

[Guest guest]

I was on xr for 2 months and yes I have had a rash under my left arm. I just

went off the xr and am now on gucavance. I will see if the rash goes away.

Jeff A

Blue Chip Group, Inc.

www.bluechipgroup.net

jeff@...

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Re: Question

| , I can't tell you if the rash is from the medication, but

| just in case, you need to report it to your doctor. They have to

| report new side affects to, gosh, I don't know where it is, but they

| are supposed to report it. This is how they get their info to inform

| the rest of us the risk of something. I don't know if the XR caused

| it, but I just learned the other stuff from my mom. See, if enough

| people report the problem and they see it as a problem they will warn

| others about the possibility of this side effect.

|

|

| Debbie in Utah

|

|

|

| > Has anyone that has or is taking Glucophage XR ever had a rash

| develop? I have a rash on my neck, and arms and starting on my face

| and stomach. The

| > Glucophage is the only change and that has been in the last 2

| months. I am going to the dr. this morning, the itching is driving

| me crazy.

| > Friends,

| >

| > Type 2

| > Co-Moderator

| > diabetes@y...

| > Co-Moderator

| > AllergyandAsthmaKids@y...

| >

| >

| >

[Guest guest]

Hi :

Sorry that you are going through a bad time.

If your doctor decides that you should go back on medication, perhaps

a discussion with him/her about a drug other than Glucophage might be

in order. I am not yet on meds but my doctor originally had said if I

do need to go on meds, he would put me on Glucophage. The last time I

saw him (4/27), I discussed all the negative side effects of

Glucophage that I had read about with him. He said that he would be

willing to negotiate if and when the time comes. Thank goodness it

hasn't arrived yet!

I have heard of people taking Actos who have gotten good results with

none of the intestinal upset that is common with Glucophage. It might

be worth a discussion.

Good luck.

Carol Warman

______________________________________________________________

> I am having a bad two days actually. Yesterday I hovered at 150 all

day.

> Today I woke

> up at 143. Jumped to 163 with only my water and vitamins. Drank a

keto shake

> (2-3 carbs) and an hour later I am at 203. I am hungry and

frustrated

> because I feel like I can't do any better diet wise. I hardly eat

any carbs.

> Heck- I hardly eat.

>

> I was on Glucophage 500 mg 2 x a day but when my numbers got low my

dr let

> me go off it. That was 4/22/01. Almost 3 weeks ago. It gave me bad

diahrea

> and kept me housebound. I really don't want to back on it.

> Thanks Eunice- I am quite depressed-

[Guest guest]

Hi :

Sorry that you are going through a bad time.

If your doctor decides that you should go back on medication, perhaps

a discussion with him/her about a drug other than Glucophage might be

in order. I am not yet on meds but my doctor originally had said if I

do need to go on meds, he would put me on Glucophage. The last time I

saw him (4/27), I discussed all the negative side effects of

Glucophage that I had read about with him. He said that he would be

willing to negotiate if and when the time comes. Thank goodness it

hasn't arrived yet!

I have heard of people taking Actos who have gotten good results with

none of the intestinal upset that is common with Glucophage. It might

be worth a discussion.

Good luck.

Carol Warman

______________________________________________________________

> I am having a bad two days actually. Yesterday I hovered at 150 all

day.

> Today I woke

> up at 143. Jumped to 163 with only my water and vitamins. Drank a

keto shake

> (2-3 carbs) and an hour later I am at 203. I am hungry and

frustrated

> because I feel like I can't do any better diet wise. I hardly eat

any carbs.

> Heck- I hardly eat.

>

> I was on Glucophage 500 mg 2 x a day but when my numbers got low my

dr let

> me go off it. That was 4/22/01. Almost 3 weeks ago. It gave me bad

diahrea

> and kept me housebound. I really don't want to back on it.

> Thanks Eunice- I am quite depressed-

[Guest guest]

Hi :

Sorry that you are going through a bad time.

If your doctor decides that you should go back on medication, perhaps

a discussion with him/her about a drug other than Glucophage might be

in order. I am not yet on meds but my doctor originally had said if I

do need to go on meds, he would put me on Glucophage. The last time I

saw him (4/27), I discussed all the negative side effects of

Glucophage that I had read about with him. He said that he would be

willing to negotiate if and when the time comes. Thank goodness it

hasn't arrived yet!

I have heard of people taking Actos who have gotten good results with

none of the intestinal upset that is common with Glucophage. It might

be worth a discussion.

Good luck.

Carol Warman

______________________________________________________________

> I am having a bad two days actually. Yesterday I hovered at 150 all

day.

> Today I woke

> up at 143. Jumped to 163 with only my water and vitamins. Drank a

keto shake

> (2-3 carbs) and an hour later I am at 203. I am hungry and

frustrated

> because I feel like I can't do any better diet wise. I hardly eat

any carbs.

> Heck- I hardly eat.

>

> I was on Glucophage 500 mg 2 x a day but when my numbers got low my

dr let

> me go off it. That was 4/22/01. Almost 3 weeks ago. It gave me bad

diahrea

> and kept me housebound. I really don't want to back on it.

> Thanks Eunice- I am quite depressed-

[Guest guest]

I will look into those- thanks-

In a message dated 05/11/2001 10:38:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

woodduckflds@... writes:

> I was on Glucophage 500 mg 2 x a day but when my numbers got low my dr let

> me go off it. That was 4/22/01. Almost 3 weeks ago. It gave me bad diahrea

> and kept me housebound. I really don't want to back on it.

> Thanks Eunice- I am quite depressed-

>

try actos or avandia

carol

[Guest guest]

I will look into those- thanks-

In a message dated 05/11/2001 10:38:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

woodduckflds@... writes:

> I was on Glucophage 500 mg 2 x a day but when my numbers got low my dr let

> me go off it. That was 4/22/01. Almost 3 weeks ago. It gave me bad diahrea

> and kept me housebound. I really don't want to back on it.

> Thanks Eunice- I am quite depressed-

>

try actos or avandia

carol

[Guest guest]

I will look into those- thanks-

In a message dated 05/11/2001 10:38:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

woodduckflds@... writes:

> I was on Glucophage 500 mg 2 x a day but when my numbers got low my dr let

> me go off it. That was 4/22/01. Almost 3 weeks ago. It gave me bad diahrea

> and kept me housebound. I really don't want to back on it.

> Thanks Eunice- I am quite depressed-

>

try actos or avandia

carol