Guest guest Posted October 9, 2000 Report Share Posted October 9, 2000 > Your advice is wrong-headed, . I am so glad to see you back again, Susie, I would not dream of contradicting you (not yet, anyway). Don't forget, though, that we don't have the USDA over here and there are no zealous low-carbers over here either, so far as I can make out, just the vast numbers that eat too much of the other two choices without thinking about scientific nutrition at all. We do have a lot of university clinics though and university nutrition departments and a joint German/Austrian/Swiss nutritional agency and some European studies and they have all come to the same unanimous conclusion. I will try to put together a summary of the latest handouts that are distributed free of charge by all pharmacies over here outlining the dangers of eating more than the recommended amounts (they are quite small) of protein and fat. These handouts are based on the results of the EURODIAB study conducted simultaneously in many European countries. One thing I can tell you in advance though is that the very serious health problems that we have here are clearly related to the excessive consumption of protein (kidney disease) and fat (cardio- vascular disease). The 850,000 deaths in 1998 in Germany break down as follows: Cardio-vascular 411,000 Cancer 213,000 Respiratory 49,000 Gastrointestinal and metabolism 41,000 Accidents 20,000 Suicide 12,000 Other causes 104,000 So cardio-vascular disease is the primary cause of death here and a clear correlation has been shown between fat consumption and cardio- vascular disease. Kidney disease has a great impact on health service costs here and a clear correlation has been shown between protein consumption (especially when accompanied by high blood pressure) and kidney disease. I hear what you say, Susie, but you must admit that it has got to sound like a heresy over here, confronted as we are by overwhelming evidence to the contrary. But I am happy to have brought you out of retirement, Susie, even if it is for only one post - the old list was just not the same without you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2000 Report Share Posted October 9, 2000 > Your advice is wrong-headed, . I am so glad to see you back again, Susie, I would not dream of contradicting you (not yet, anyway). Don't forget, though, that we don't have the USDA over here and there are no zealous low-carbers over here either, so far as I can make out, just the vast numbers that eat too much of the other two choices without thinking about scientific nutrition at all. We do have a lot of university clinics though and university nutrition departments and a joint German/Austrian/Swiss nutritional agency and some European studies and they have all come to the same unanimous conclusion. I will try to put together a summary of the latest handouts that are distributed free of charge by all pharmacies over here outlining the dangers of eating more than the recommended amounts (they are quite small) of protein and fat. These handouts are based on the results of the EURODIAB study conducted simultaneously in many European countries. One thing I can tell you in advance though is that the very serious health problems that we have here are clearly related to the excessive consumption of protein (kidney disease) and fat (cardio- vascular disease). The 850,000 deaths in 1998 in Germany break down as follows: Cardio-vascular 411,000 Cancer 213,000 Respiratory 49,000 Gastrointestinal and metabolism 41,000 Accidents 20,000 Suicide 12,000 Other causes 104,000 So cardio-vascular disease is the primary cause of death here and a clear correlation has been shown between fat consumption and cardio- vascular disease. Kidney disease has a great impact on health service costs here and a clear correlation has been shown between protein consumption (especially when accompanied by high blood pressure) and kidney disease. I hear what you say, Susie, but you must admit that it has got to sound like a heresy over here, confronted as we are by overwhelming evidence to the contrary. But I am happy to have brought you out of retirement, Susie, even if it is for only one post - the old list was just not the same without you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2000 Report Share Posted October 9, 2000 All, I have done it again! Does anybody know how to stop Internet Explorer 5.5 from sending the same stuff twice? I only just updated from version 5.0 and never had the problem before. I shudder to think how long the digest is going to be if I keep this up! Sorry, Folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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