Re: Chronic Pain Fuels Boom in Opioids(Steve)

[Guest guest]

Withdrawal is torment .

In a message dated 3/2/2012 3:20:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

persephone131953@... writes:

Thank you Steve! You said it all. i come across this stupid belief myself

and see it written too, just like this article.

A pharmacist told me that all these reported deaths of celebrities who had

some kind of pharmaceutical in their blood -had *alcohol* in the mix

too.(which we know almost always is a synergistic combination).

Thank you again.

-----Original Message-----

Date: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:44:33 am

Subject: Re: Chronic Pain Fuels Boom in Opioids

Wow! What a steaming load!

Aside from the glaring factual errors, there is a lot of transference. The

anti-opioid lobby is claiming that the pro opioid lobby is doing exactly

what they're doing. Did anyone notice how that article makes it sound like

opioids are easy to get?

[Guest guest]

withdrawal form opiod sare living hell i am going thru hell cause i only

have 2 pills a day for the next 9 days till i get to the doctor an di am

suffering so much i usually take 5 a day but you know you have thoese bad days

and my docot ris 30 days till date no extra ones so i have a hard time

every nmonth i run short its hell i need at leaast 3 to not be in withdrawals

and 5 to live comfotable

wish me luck for the next 9 days

netty

In a message dated 3/5/2012 5:43:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

ShyCat2@... writes:

Withdrawal is torment .

In a message dated 3/2/2012 3:20:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

_persephone131953@..._ (mailto:persephone131953@...) writes:

Thank you Steve! You said it all. i come across this stupid belief myself

and see it written too, just like this article.

A pharmacist told me that all these reported deaths of celebrities who had

some kind of pharmaceutical in their blood -had *alcohol* in the mix

too.(which we know almost always is a synergistic combination).

Thank you again.

[Guest guest]

withdrawal form opiod sare living hell i am going thru hell cause i only

have 2 pills a day for the next 9 days till i get to the doctor an di am

suffering so much i usually take 5 a day but you know you have thoese bad days

and my docot ris 30 days till date no extra ones so i have a hard time

every nmonth i run short its hell i need at leaast 3 to not be in withdrawals

and 5 to live comfotable

wish me luck for the next 9 days

netty

In a message dated 3/5/2012 5:43:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

ShyCat2@... writes:

Withdrawal is torment .

In a message dated 3/2/2012 3:20:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

_persephone131953@..._ (mailto:persephone131953@...) writes:

Thank you Steve! You said it all. i come across this stupid belief myself

and see it written too, just like this article.

A pharmacist told me that all these reported deaths of celebrities who had

some kind of pharmaceutical in their blood -had *alcohol* in the mix

too.(which we know almost always is a synergistic combination).

Thank you again.

[Guest guest]

I went back and forth for almost a year going through withdrawls. I couldn't

figure out what was going on as I was being careful and then come to find out my

21 year old daughter was stealing them. When I found out I bought a lockbox from

walmart. She even figured out how to get in that what a waste of money. Then she

started stealing my medical MJ and my valium. After I had caught her no apology

no I'm sorry Dad nothing. I actually sold my home so noone could live with me it

had gotten to that point. The withdrawls were bad and the pain was bad but

nothing hurt more then the lack of respect and the lack of apology. Best to all

of you.

>

> withdrawal form opiod sare living hell i am going thru hell cause i only

> have 2 pills a day for the next 9 days till i get to the doctor an di am

> suffering so much i usually take 5 a day but you know you have thoese bad days

> and my docot ris 30 days till date no extra ones so i have a hard time

> every nmonth i run short its hell i need at leaast 3 to not be in withdrawals

> and 5 to live comfotable

> wish me luck for the next 9 days

> netty

>

>

> In a message dated 3/5/2012 5:43:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> ShyCat2@... writes:

>

> Withdrawal is torment .

>

>

> In a message dated 3/2/2012 3:20:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> _persephone131953@..._ (mailto:persephone131953@...) writes:

>

> Thank you Steve! You said it all. i come across this stupid belief myself

> and see it written too, just like this article.

> A pharmacist told me that all these reported deaths of celebrities who had

>

> some kind of pharmaceutical in their blood -had *alcohol* in the mix

> too.(which we know almost always is a synergistic combination).

> Thank you again.

>

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withdrawal form opiod sare living hell i am going thru hell cause i only

have 2 pills a day for the next 9 days till i get to the doctor an di am

suffering so much i usually take 5 a day but you know you have thoese bad days

and my docot ris 30 days till date no extra ones so i have a hard time

every nmonth i run short its hell i need at leaast 3 to not be in withdrawals

and 5 to live comfotable

wish me luck for the next 9 days

netty

>>>>>>>

It sounds like you need to find a good physiatrist - a pain specialist. They

generally know of better options for pain control, and are more willing to

prescribe larger doses of opiods if that is what they decide to stick with.

There are dedicated pain clinics now (not all are fronts for marijuana sellers)

that would be a good place to find one, or even check the yellow pages, where

they split out different medical specialties.

In the meantime, I find that splitting the pills and taking 1/2 every 2 hours is

a better pain control than taking 1 every 4 hours. You may also find that you

can stretch your pills better that way - saving 1/2 once or twice a day for the

first 3 weeks would get you into the 4th week with sufficient pills to avoid the

low-dose cycle.

Jerry

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

As someone who (well, will always be an addict/ alcoholic in recovery) was a

pothead, I can only sort of guess that although I can't see it 'killing' or

anihiliating pain, I am thinking it would make one feel .. sort of not as

concerned with it. I don't know how chemically it would work; guess if it does,

it does. Heart breaking what you went through. I am so sorry; all I can think of

is that she had a problem (like me) and for some damn reason felt .. 'entitled.'

As if .. oh, cool, look at this! And all I have to do is just take it! Free for

me. Hell, enough kids get into stuff this way. However, it is not always so

devastating to the parent or whoever is being 'robbed.'(I.e. an employer; this

also takes place as I've heard and knew people who did this after I'd left high

school). I am glad that you seem as if you know how to manage things for

yourself. I'm scared now as I am about to begin physical therapy (still in a

sling) for the busted shoulder -humerous bone, two places on top. It is better

than it was but yeah; took the prescribed opioid pills (percocet was a no go;

made me ill and too strong!)but am better except still hard to sleep. I am going

thru currently relapse somewhat (did too much this week and personal stress)but

hope this passes QUICK!

I am approaching physical therapy with MUCH trepedation. (Scardey cat of pain as

I felt after I'd just done the shoulder). Also .. sick of typing w/ one hand!

Jane, the one with the too strong hound, NYC

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> I went back and forth for almost a year going through withdrawls. I couldn't

figure out what was going on as I was being careful and then come to find out my

21 year old daughter was stealing them. When I found out I bought a lockbox from

walmart. She even figured out how to get in that what a waste of money. Then she

started stealing my medical MJ and my valium. After I had caught her no apology

no I'm sorry Dad nothing. I actually sold my home so noone could live with me it

had gotten to that point. The withdrawls were bad and the pain was bad but

nothing hurt more then the lack of respect and the lack of apology. Best to all

of you.