Re: Re: thank you very much

March 10, 2012

One other trick I've learned is that I can generally tell if I have hit

a sensitive area by lightly pressing the needle into my body without

breaking the skin. After a slight amount of experience you will find that

this is pretty accurate and easy to perfect.

Adios, kirk.

> **

>

> Kirk,

>

> if you're saying that it hurts less then I'll give it a try, I guess I

> won't really know until I try it

> :-)

> -Ewelina

>

> >

> > The only bad part about hitting a blood vessel is that you will bleed. So

> > long as bleeding isn't an issue for you, it won't be a major issue, just

> > hold pressure for a minute or so until it stops bleeding. One other

> > point....don't be afraid to try your abdomen, as that is not a bad place

> to

> > inject, and I think it hurts less than the thighs.

> > Kirk.

>

--

Everything in life sucks except things that should!

March 10, 2012

One other trick I've learned is that I can generally tell if I have hit

a sensitive area by lightly pressing the needle into my body without

breaking the skin. After a slight amount of experience you will find that

this is pretty accurate and easy to perfect.

Adios, kirk.

> **

>

> Kirk,

>

> if you're saying that it hurts less then I'll give it a try, I guess I

> won't really know until I try it

> :-)

> -Ewelina

>

> >

> > The only bad part about hitting a blood vessel is that you will bleed. So

> > long as bleeding isn't an issue for you, it won't be a major issue, just

> > hold pressure for a minute or so until it stops bleeding. One other

> > point....don't be afraid to try your abdomen, as that is not a bad place

> to

> > inject, and I think it hurts less than the thighs.

> > Kirk.

>

--

Everything in life sucks except things that should!

March 11, 2012

Hello,

I have â€™s disease and yes I am on their support group for myself. I

suffer my own set of problems related to health, and although not from the same

source of illness, they sure are so very close to the same as a person with

Stillâ€™s. My daughter who is 29 is the one with Stillâ€™s. We both have plenty

experience with giving shots, to each other, well Iâ€™ll give them to her, but

she is not so much into giving the shots to herself. She is more comfortable

using an auto injector that you place the needle in and it will inject it into

the skin, plunge the medication in and then you pull it out. She uses that on

top of her thighs. This area for her causes more of a skin reaction than in her

buttocks, but itâ€™s where she needs to do it to be able to reach and also see.

The auto injector was covered by insurance and it took awhile to find the right

one compatible with the Kineret type syringes. If it comes down to it though and

you are finding it difficult giving yourself shots, itâ€™s certainly an option

that I felt worth mentioning.

I give myself shots, and have to give them in the muscle. Well the biggest

muscle is that butt muscle so I stand and like the doctor told me squat like

Iâ€™m getting ready to sit down on the toilet and the muscle will pronounce and

I feel for the muscle and mark it with my finger on one hand, and with the other

hand reach around my back and put the shot in my behind. I have not hit a blood

vessel in a long time. I keep a paper towel ready in case, but even if that

happens, if I apply pressure for a little while it stops bleeding very quickly.

With my daughter and her shots, she does get less skin reaction when she has me

do the shot for her in her buttocks. We use the upper, outside quadrant. If you

put the shot too close to the middle of the butt cheeck, then you risk hitting

the sciatic nerve. It does not have to be in the muscle, so on her we find a

little fatty part and I lightly pinch it between my fingers and do the shot

there. We have hit blood vessels before but again, it is not frequent. This is

the least amount of skin reaction spot we have found. We rub it after to help

spread the medicine from being in just that spot which is helpful. It is also

fairly easy to see if there was a blood vessel close to the surface. When Iâ€™m

at her house, she will grab the shot and ask me to do it for her so she can skip

doing it herself. I donâ€™t know your situation and if you have a partner or

someone else who can help you out and learn to do shots so that you can utilize

the rear end instead of the leg and get less reaction perhaps.

This is just works for us. Iâ€™m sure you probably will find the best options

for you, but I wanted you to have some more information to go by. Too many

details maybe, but little things can make big differences sometimes.

Good Luck

Thinking of you,

From: Kirk Bonanny

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:49 PM

To: Stillsdisease

Subject: Re: Re: thank you very much

One other trick I've learned is that I can generally tell if I have hit

a sensitive area by lightly pressing the needle into my body without

breaking the skin. After a slight amount of experience you will find that

this is pretty accurate and easy to perfect.

Adios, kirk.

On 9 March 2012 12:06, ewelinasandulescu <mailto:xevy88x%40gmail.com> wrote:

> **

>

> Kirk,

>

> if you're saying that it hurts less then I'll give it a try, I guess I

> won't really know until I try it

> :-)

> -Ewelina

>

> >

> > The only bad part about hitting a blood vessel is that you will bleed. So

> > long as bleeding isn't an issue for you, it won't be a major issue, just

> > hold pressure for a minute or so until it stops bleeding. One other

> > point....don't be afraid to try your abdomen, as that is not a bad place

> to

> > inject, and I think it hurts less than the thighs.

> > Kirk.

>

--

Everything in life sucks except things that should!

March 11, 2012

I am jumping in in the middle og this conversation, but are you talking about

injecting Kineret ot one of the other Stills medications? Kineret should be

injected under the skin, not into the muscle.

April

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Re: Re: thank you very much

One other trick I've learned is that I can generally tell if I have hit

a sensitive area by lightly pressing the needle into my body without

breaking the skin. After a slight amount of experience you will find that

this is pretty accurate and easy to perfect.

Adios, kirk.

On 9 March 2012 12:06, ewelinasandulescu <mailto:xevy88x%40gmail.com> wrote:

> **

>

> Kirk,

>

> if you're saying that it hurts less then I'll give it a try, I guess I

> won't really know until I try it

> :-)

> -Ewelina

>

> >

> > The only bad part about hitting a blood vessel is that you will bleed. So

> > long as bleeding isn't an issue for you, it won't be a major issue, just

> > hold pressure for a minute or so until it stops bleeding. One other

> > point....don't be afraid to try your abdomen, as that is not a bad place

> to

> > inject, and I think it hurts less than the thighs.

> > Kirk.

>

--

Everything in life sucks except things that should!

March 11, 2012

I am jumping in in the middle og this conversation, but are you talking about

injecting Kineret ot one of the other Stills medications? Kineret should be

injected under the skin, not into the muscle.

April

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Re: Re: thank you very much

One other trick I've learned is that I can generally tell if I have hit

a sensitive area by lightly pressing the needle into my body without

breaking the skin. After a slight amount of experience you will find that

this is pretty accurate and easy to perfect.

Adios, kirk.

On 9 March 2012 12:06, ewelinasandulescu <mailto:xevy88x%40gmail.com> wrote:

> **

>

> Kirk,

>

> if you're saying that it hurts less then I'll give it a try, I guess I

> won't really know until I try it

> :-)

> -Ewelina

>

> >

> > The only bad part about hitting a blood vessel is that you will bleed. So

> > long as bleeding isn't an issue for you, it won't be a major issue, just

> > hold pressure for a minute or so until it stops bleeding. One other

> > point....don't be afraid to try your abdomen, as that is not a bad place

> to

> > inject, and I think it hurts less than the thighs.

> > Kirk.

>

--

Everything in life sucks except things that should!

March 11, 2012

Hello April,

I was talking about both. I explained a little bit about my situation which is

IM. However, for the most part, Iâ€™m speaking of my daughter with Stillâ€™s and

Kineret. She gets the lease amount of skin reaction in the â€œFATâ€™ area in the

buttocks, not the muscle. Iâ€™m sorry if the post is confusing to you. Please

re-read and let me know if it makes sense now, and let me know. This should get

out to everyone and anybody that had any confusion please know what I meant.

Thanks,

From: raincoin@...

Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:15 PM

To: Stillsdisease

Subject: Re: Re: thank you very much

I am jumping in in the middle og this conversation, but are you talking about

injecting Kineret ot one of the other Stills medications? Kineret should be

injected under the skin, not into the muscle.

April

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Re: Re: thank you very much

One other trick I've learned is that I can generally tell if I have hit

a sensitive area by lightly pressing the needle into my body without

breaking the skin. After a slight amount of experience you will find that

this is pretty accurate and easy to perfect.

Adios, kirk.

On 9 March 2012 12:06, ewelinasandulescu <mailto:xevy88x%40gmail.com> wrote:

> **

>

> Kirk,

>

> if you're saying that it hurts less then I'll give it a try, I guess I

> won't really know until I try it

> :-)

> -Ewelina

>

> >

> > The only bad part about hitting a blood vessel is that you will bleed. So

> > long as bleeding isn't an issue for you, it won't be a major issue, just

> > hold pressure for a minute or so until it stops bleeding. One other

> > point....don't be afraid to try your abdomen, as that is not a bad place

> to

> > inject, and I think it hurts less than the thighs.

> > Kirk.

>

--

Everything in life sucks except things that should!

March 11, 2012

Hello April,

I was talking about both. I explained a little bit about my situation which is

IM. However, for the most part, Iâ€™m speaking of my daughter with Stillâ€™s and

Kineret. She gets the lease amount of skin reaction in the â€œFATâ€™ area in the

buttocks, not the muscle. Iâ€™m sorry if the post is confusing to you. Please

re-read and let me know if it makes sense now, and let me know. This should get

out to everyone and anybody that had any confusion please know what I meant.

Thanks,

From: raincoin@...

Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:15 PM

To: Stillsdisease

Subject: Re: Re: thank you very much

I am jumping in in the middle og this conversation, but are you talking about

injecting Kineret ot one of the other Stills medications? Kineret should be

injected under the skin, not into the muscle.

April

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Re: Re: thank you very much

One other trick I've learned is that I can generally tell if I have hit

a sensitive area by lightly pressing the needle into my body without

breaking the skin. After a slight amount of experience you will find that

this is pretty accurate and easy to perfect.

Adios, kirk.

On 9 March 2012 12:06, ewelinasandulescu <mailto:xevy88x%40gmail.com> wrote:

> **

>

> Kirk,

>

> if you're saying that it hurts less then I'll give it a try, I guess I

> won't really know until I try it

> :-)

> -Ewelina

>

> >

> > The only bad part about hitting a blood vessel is that you will bleed. So

> > long as bleeding isn't an issue for you, it won't be a major issue, just

> > hold pressure for a minute or so until it stops bleeding. One other

> > point....don't be afraid to try your abdomen, as that is not a bad place

> to

> > inject, and I think it hurts less than the thighs.

> > Kirk.

>

--

Everything in life sucks except things that should!

March 11, 2012

No, no...I was just making sure everyone was on the up & up about where Kineret

was suppose to be injected. I haven't posted in a long, long time. My computer

is down & I just got my phone set up to where I can reply to email posts. Can't

see if these are going to the group or not...we tend to discuss Kineret every

once in a while. It works much better if it is injected just below the skin, not

into fat or muscle...just putting my two cents in. I have been onKineret for a

little over two years now.it's a love hate relationship. I hate the stinging,

burning shotsevery day, but I love what it's done for me. Before Kineret I

literally could not function. My doctor said it has been a life saver. He said

if we had not found a way to properly supress my immune systemas quicly as we

did, I would have died. When my Stills came on, it was sudden and with a

vengence. Kineret has been wonderful to me, even though it is mean to me. It is

not the only med I take, but it is a good one.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Re: Re: thank you very much

One other trick I've learned is that I can generally tell if I have hit

a sensitive area by lightly pressing the needle into my body without

breaking the skin. After a slight amount of experience you will find that

this is pretty accurate and easy to perfect.

Adios, kirk.

On 9 March 2012 12:06, ewelinasandulescu <mailto:xevy88x%40gmail.com> wrote:

> **

>

> Kirk,

>

> if you're saying that it hurts less then I'll give it a try, I guess I

> won't really know until I try it

> :-)

> -Ewelina

>

> >

> > The only bad part about hitting a blood vessel is that you will bleed. So

> > long as bleeding isn't an issue for you, it won't be a major issue, just

> > hold pressure for a minute or so until it stops bleeding. One other

> > point....don't be afraid to try your abdomen, as that is not a bad place

> to

> > inject, and I think it hurts less than the thighs.

> > Kirk.

>

--

Everything in life sucks except things that should!

March 11, 2012

Hi April,

Thanks for responding. I understand that the Kineret must be injected Sub-Q.

Just under the skin. However, there must be a place where the length of the

needle can be inserted that will not hit muscle, or bone, or organs, so that is

why it is necessary to find an area where there is fat. If not fat then what is

under the skin is muscle or something you donâ€™t want to hit with the needle.

That is why I pinch the skin a bit to help bring up a piece of skin to inject.

Enjoy using your new phone. Iâ€™m glad this gets you a way to communicate with

the outside world, not having a computer.

Iâ€™m also glad to hear that the Kineret is keeping your disease under control.

Where do you inject yourself?

From: raincoin@...

Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:54 PM

To: Stillsdisease

Subject: Re: Re: thank you very much

No, no...I was just making sure everyone was on the up & up about where Kineret

was suppose to be injected. I haven't posted in a long, long time. My computer

is down & I just got my phone set up to where I can reply to email posts. Can't

see if these are going to the group or not...we tend to discuss Kineret every

once in a while. It works much better if it is injected just below the skin, not

into fat or muscle...just putting my two cents in.

March 11, 2012

Hi April,

Thanks for responding. I understand that the Kineret must be injected Sub-Q.

Just under the skin. However, there must be a place where the length of the

needle can be inserted that will not hit muscle, or bone, or organs, so that is

why it is necessary to find an area where there is fat. If not fat then what is

under the skin is muscle or something you donâ€™t want to hit with the needle.

That is why I pinch the skin a bit to help bring up a piece of skin to inject.

Enjoy using your new phone. Iâ€™m glad this gets you a way to communicate with

the outside world, not having a computer.

Iâ€™m also glad to hear that the Kineret is keeping your disease under control.

Where do you inject yourself?

From: raincoin@...

Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:54 PM

To: Stillsdisease

Subject: Re: Re: thank you very much

No, no...I was just making sure everyone was on the up & up about where Kineret

was suppose to be injected. I haven't posted in a long, long time. My computer

is down & I just got my phone set up to where I can reply to email posts. Can't

see if these are going to the group or not...we tend to discuss Kineret every

once in a while. It works much better if it is injected just below the skin, not

into fat or muscle...just putting my two cents in.

March 11, 2012

They way I was told and do it is to do it at an angle, about a 45 degree or so.

That way you get under the skin, but not into the tissues beneath the skin. I

did it wrong for afew days until I got my TB test. The nurse that did my TBtest

told me the test was an injection subq and when she did it I saw how she did it,

so I asked her about it, and she explained the concept to me. I have been doing

it that way ever since. I use the top and sides of my thighs and my abdomen.

Honestly, the abdomen does not seem to sting and burn as much. It is hard to

find a spot sometimes. I have spider veins on my thighs and stretchmarks from

pregnancies on my abdomen, and I stay away from an area I have injected

recently. It works just fine, though.

April

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Re: Re: thank you very much

No, no...I was just making sure everyone was on the up & up about where Kineret

was suppose to be injected. I haven't posted in a long, long time. My computer

is down & I just got my phone set up to where I can reply to email posts. Can't

see if these are going to the group or not...we tend to discuss Kineret every

once in a while. It works much better if it is injected just below the skin, not

into fat or muscle...just putting my two cents in.

March 11, 2012