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First I want to appologize for not trimming this message. I am on my tablet and

don't know how to do it yet.

Now for Kirk, please be careful with this c-diff. I had it twice last year and

got so sick I thought I was going to die. I was versed on the way to take care

of myself while at home. Like always keep washing my hands. I know you love

coaching, but be very careful around the kids. I was told that even after going

home, c-diff patients should limit their interaction with others until they're

sure it's gone. Children and the elderly can't fight it off as easily and with

our immune systems, we tend to have it longer than the norm which means a longer

time frame for the kids to get it. I stayed with my mom after getting it and she

acted just like a nurse and made sure everything was sterile and every few

minutes I had hand sanitizer on my hands. I don't want to sound bossy, I just

want to make sure that you're around for a long time to be able to coach the

kids and that you take care of yourself so the kids are around for you to coach.

I hope I haven't

overstepped and made myself sound, as I said before, bossy. I just care so much

about my Stills family. Love and (((((gentle hugs))))) to you my Stills brother.

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>Thanks for the info ! I only have to hope that my PC holds up as it is

>dying. The motherboard is bad and it tends to shut off every few minutes!

>I'd buy a new one, but this has been a BRUTAL year for me, not being able

>to do 1/4 of what I am used to doing.

>At least I'm back into coaching football, but I know I'm going too far with

>my " hands on " approach, but the only way to teach techniques ti the

>offensive and defensive lines require demonstrations. I've been carted off

>of the field more than once, but to me it is too important for me to do to

>really care if I hurt myself.

>PS...I'm down to under 270 now! C-dif may be dangerous but it sure is a

>good way to lose a bunch of weight fast. They have me on Vancomycin and

>although I've noted slight improvement, it is still with me. I am very

>lethargic and have to really push myself just to get through the

>day.......and as tired as I am I can NOT sleep very well, seeing the wee

>hours of the morning most of the time!

> Have a good day, Kirk.

>

>

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> Evening Kirk,

>>

>> You can go back at the home page of the group and use the search engine in

>> the messages to look up past posts. They have detailed boxes that you can

>> use to pull up any and all posts from the beginning of the group back in

>> 2000 I think it is. If you try the Epstein-bar category maybe that will

>> lead to some of the others? Worth a try. I really miss Kathleen now as she

>> was always so good to have that information.

>>

>> Wishing they find the records for you.

>>

>>

>> From: Kirk Bonanny

>> I thought I remembered there

>> being a discussion years ago where certain viruses could trigger an

>> auto-immune type reaction such as Stills. I know it was on list, but that

>> was most likely at least 7 or 8 years ago.

>> Kirk.

>>

>>

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You are certainly justified with your concern, as the more I read about

this the worse I feel about having it, aside from the tremendously quick

weight loss that I was in DIRE need of, and still am. I asked my PCP about

my interaction with others and he told me so long as I am continually

washing my hands, cleaning the toilet seat(s) etc, that there is only a

minimal chance of passing it on.

The one thing I should clarify about being a " hands-on " coach is that I

don't generally do my demonstraions on the kids, as they are far to light

to handle a man like me. I generally use a dummy bag or another coach. I

teach by example, and it has served me very well over the years.

The other part about being " hands-on " is actually lining up the kids who

don't get it right or otherwise have trouble and I make them do it in step

by step fashion.

Thank you for your concern, and no, you are not over stepping your

bounds. I appreciate all of the information that I get off of this list and

am thankful to have found it many years ago.

Kirk.

> **

>

>

>

>

> First I want to appologize for not trimming this message. I am on my

> tablet and don't know how to do it yet.

> Now for Kirk, please be careful with this c-diff. I had it twice last year

> and got so sick I thought I was going to die. I was versed on the way to

> take care of myself while at home. Like always keep washing my hands. I

> know you love coaching, but be very careful around the kids. I was told

> that even after going home, c-diff patients should limit their interaction

> with others until they're sure it's gone. Children and the elderly can't

> fight it off as easily and with our immune systems, we tend to have it

> longer than the norm which means a longer time frame for the kids to get

> it. I stayed with my mom after getting it and she acted just like a nurse

> and made sure everything was sterile and every few minutes I had hand

> sanitizer on my hands. I don't want to sound bossy, I just want to make

> sure that you're around for a long time to be able to coach the kids and

> that you take care of yourself so the kids are around for you to coach. I

> hope I haven't

> overstepped and made myself sound, as I said before, bossy. I just care so

> much about my Stills family. Love and (((((gentle hugs))))) to you my

> Stills brother.

>

> ------------------------------

>

>

> >Thanks for the info ! I only have to hope that my PC holds up as it

> is

> >dying. The motherboard is bad and it tends to shut off every few minutes!

> >I'd buy a new one, but this has been a BRUTAL year for me, not being able

> >to do 1/4 of what I am used to doing.

> >At least I'm back into coaching football, but I know I'm going too far

> with

> >my " hands on " approach, but the only way to teach techniques ti the

> >offensive and defensive lines require demonstrations. I've been carted off

> >of the field more than once, but to me it is too important for me to do to

> >really care if I hurt myself.

> >PS...I'm down to under 270 now! C-dif may be dangerous but it sure is a

> >good way to lose a bunch of weight fast. They have me on Vancomycin and

> >although I've noted slight improvement, it is still with me. I am very

> >lethargic and have to really push myself just to get through the

> >day.......and as tired as I am I can NOT sleep very well, seeing the wee

> >hours of the morning most of the time!

> > Have a good day, Kirk.

> >

> >

> >

> >> **

> >>

> >>

> >> Evening Kirk,

> >>

> >> You can go back at the home page of the group and use the search engine

> in

> >> the messages to look up past posts. They have detailed boxes that you

> can

> >> use to pull up any and all posts from the beginning of the group back in

> >> 2000 I think it is. If you try the Epstein-bar category maybe that will

> >> lead to some of the others? Worth a try. I really miss Kathleen now as

> she

> >> was always so good to have that information.

> >>

> >> Wishing they find the records for you.

> >>

> >>

> >> From: Kirk Bonanny

> >> I thought I remembered there

> >> being a discussion years ago where certain viruses could trigger an

> >> auto-immune type reaction such as Stills. I know it was on list, but

> that

> >> was most likely at least 7 or 8 years ago.

> >> Kirk.

> >>

> >>

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Hey everyone.  I haven't been online for weeks due to the fact that I've been

having many many awesome fevers every single day all summer and am trying to

slog through 127 emails right now as my " one thing I will make myself do today "

haha even though that " one thing I should get my butt off the couch for today "

should really be my NIH paperwork (which will be like writing a research

paper/book), doing something about my impending SSDI hearing in 3 wks (haven't

been able to even speak with my lawyer yet), take a shower, feed myself, you

know the basics. haha. I just wanted to mention in case anyone doesn't know that

Purell-type alcohol based hand sanitizer is ineffective with C-Diff. Before I

got sick, I was an RN on a busy medical-surgical floor and we saw c-diff fairly

often, usually in the elderly. But a lot of people don't know that you really

have to use good old fashioned soap & water hand washing. C-Diff spreads via

spores that the sanitizer

often can't penetrate. The warm water with soapy lather and adequate friction

from scrubbing gets most of the spores. Even a lot of the nursing staff at the

hospital I worked at didn't realize it just a couple years ago but then we

started putting up signs over the sanitzer dispensers. Just fyi. Here's a quote

from an article from Science Daily:

" The results were striking: the protocols that involved washing with water

eliminated more than 98% of the bacteria, while washing with an alcohol-based

solution eliminated almost none!. "  

Anyway, just fyi.          Aubrey

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Hey everyone.  I haven't been online for weeks due to the fact that I've been

having many many awesome fevers every single day all summer and am trying to

slog through 127 emails right now as my " one thing I will make myself do today "

haha even though that " one thing I should get my butt off the couch for today "

should really be my NIH paperwork (which will be like writing a research

paper/book), doing something about my impending SSDI hearing in 3 wks (haven't

been able to even speak with my lawyer yet), take a shower, feed myself, you

know the basics. haha. I just wanted to mention in case anyone doesn't know that

Purell-type alcohol based hand sanitizer is ineffective with C-Diff. Before I

got sick, I was an RN on a busy medical-surgical floor and we saw c-diff fairly

often, usually in the elderly. But a lot of people don't know that you really

have to use good old fashioned soap & water hand washing. C-Diff spreads via

spores that the sanitizer

often can't penetrate. The warm water with soapy lather and adequate friction

from scrubbing gets most of the spores. Even a lot of the nursing staff at the

hospital I worked at didn't realize it just a couple years ago but then we

started putting up signs over the sanitzer dispensers. Just fyi. Here's a quote

from an article from Science Daily:

" The results were striking: the protocols that involved washing with water

eliminated more than 98% of the bacteria, while washing with an alcohol-based

solution eliminated almost none!. "  

Anyway, just fyi.          Aubrey

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Hey everyone.  I haven't been online for weeks due to the fact that I've been

having many many awesome fevers every single day all summer and am trying to

slog through 127 emails right now as my " one thing I will make myself do today "

haha even though that " one thing I should get my butt off the couch for today "

should really be my NIH paperwork (which will be like writing a research

paper/book), doing something about my impending SSDI hearing in 3 wks (haven't

been able to even speak with my lawyer yet), take a shower, feed myself, you

know the basics. haha. I just wanted to mention in case anyone doesn't know that

Purell-type alcohol based hand sanitizer is ineffective with C-Diff. Before I

got sick, I was an RN on a busy medical-surgical floor and we saw c-diff fairly

often, usually in the elderly. But a lot of people don't know that you really

have to use good old fashioned soap & water hand washing. C-Diff spreads via

spores that the sanitizer

often can't penetrate. The warm water with soapy lather and adequate friction

from scrubbing gets most of the spores. Even a lot of the nursing staff at the

hospital I worked at didn't realize it just a couple years ago but then we

started putting up signs over the sanitzer dispensers. Just fyi. Here's a quote

from an article from Science Daily:

" The results were striking: the protocols that involved washing with water

eliminated more than 98% of the bacteria, while washing with an alcohol-based

solution eliminated almost none!. "  

Anyway, just fyi.          Aubrey

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Aubrey, you hit the nail on the head! I was advised of this by my PCP and

use soap and warm water each and every time I have to go to the bathroom

and whenever I'm going to be cooking/handling food, etc... I probably wash

my hands at least 20x per day lately.

Thanks for the information! Kirk.

> **

>

>

> Hey everyone. I haven't been online for weeks due to the fact that I've

> been having many many awesome fevers every single day all summer and am

> trying to slog through 127 emails right now as my " one thing I will make

> myself do today " haha even though that " one thing I should get my butt off

> the couch for today " should really be my NIH paperwork (which will be like

> writing a research paper/book), doing something about my impending SSDI

> hearing in 3 wks (haven't been able to even speak with my lawyer yet), take

> a shower, feed myself, you know the basics. haha. I just wanted to mention

> in case anyone doesn't know that Purell-type alcohol based

> hand sanitizer is ineffective with C-Diff. Before I got sick, I was an RN

> on a busy medical-surgical floor and we saw c-diff fairly often, usually in

> the elderly. But a lot of people don't know that you really have to use

> good old fashioned soap & water hand washing. C-Diff spreads via spores

> that the sanitizer

> often can't penetrate. The warm water with soapy lather and adequate

> friction from scrubbing gets most of the spores. Even a lot of the nursing

> staff at the hospital I worked at didn't realize it just a couple years ago

> but then we started putting up signs over the sanitzer dispensers. Just

> fyi. Here's a quote from an article from Science Daily:

> " The results were striking: the protocols that involved washing with water

> eliminated more than 98% of the bacteria, while washing with an

> alcohol-based solution eliminated almost none!. "

> Anyway, just fyi. Aubrey

>

>

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Aubrey, you hit the nail on the head! I was advised of this by my PCP and

use soap and warm water each and every time I have to go to the bathroom

and whenever I'm going to be cooking/handling food, etc... I probably wash

my hands at least 20x per day lately.

Thanks for the information! Kirk.

> **

>

>

> Hey everyone. I haven't been online for weeks due to the fact that I've

> been having many many awesome fevers every single day all summer and am

> trying to slog through 127 emails right now as my " one thing I will make

> myself do today " haha even though that " one thing I should get my butt off

> the couch for today " should really be my NIH paperwork (which will be like

> writing a research paper/book), doing something about my impending SSDI

> hearing in 3 wks (haven't been able to even speak with my lawyer yet), take

> a shower, feed myself, you know the basics. haha. I just wanted to mention

> in case anyone doesn't know that Purell-type alcohol based

> hand sanitizer is ineffective with C-Diff. Before I got sick, I was an RN

> on a busy medical-surgical floor and we saw c-diff fairly often, usually in

> the elderly. But a lot of people don't know that you really have to use

> good old fashioned soap & water hand washing. C-Diff spreads via spores

> that the sanitizer

> often can't penetrate. The warm water with soapy lather and adequate

> friction from scrubbing gets most of the spores. Even a lot of the nursing

> staff at the hospital I worked at didn't realize it just a couple years ago

> but then we started putting up signs over the sanitzer dispensers. Just

> fyi. Here's a quote from an article from Science Daily:

> " The results were striking: the protocols that involved washing with water

> eliminated more than 98% of the bacteria, while washing with an

> alcohol-based solution eliminated almost none!. "

> Anyway, just fyi. Aubrey

>

>

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Aubrey, you hit the nail on the head! I was advised of this by my PCP and

use soap and warm water each and every time I have to go to the bathroom

and whenever I'm going to be cooking/handling food, etc... I probably wash

my hands at least 20x per day lately.

Thanks for the information! Kirk.

> **

>

>

> Hey everyone. I haven't been online for weeks due to the fact that I've

> been having many many awesome fevers every single day all summer and am

> trying to slog through 127 emails right now as my " one thing I will make

> myself do today " haha even though that " one thing I should get my butt off

> the couch for today " should really be my NIH paperwork (which will be like

> writing a research paper/book), doing something about my impending SSDI

> hearing in 3 wks (haven't been able to even speak with my lawyer yet), take

> a shower, feed myself, you know the basics. haha. I just wanted to mention

> in case anyone doesn't know that Purell-type alcohol based

> hand sanitizer is ineffective with C-Diff. Before I got sick, I was an RN

> on a busy medical-surgical floor and we saw c-diff fairly often, usually in

> the elderly. But a lot of people don't know that you really have to use

> good old fashioned soap & water hand washing. C-Diff spreads via spores

> that the sanitizer

> often can't penetrate. The warm water with soapy lather and adequate

> friction from scrubbing gets most of the spores. Even a lot of the nursing

> staff at the hospital I worked at didn't realize it just a couple years ago

> but then we started putting up signs over the sanitzer dispensers. Just

> fyi. Here's a quote from an article from Science Daily:

> " The results were striking: the protocols that involved washing with water

> eliminated more than 98% of the bacteria, while washing with an

> alcohol-based solution eliminated almost none!. "

> Anyway, just fyi. Aubrey

>

>

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Hi Aubrey,

 

Thanks for the tip. Ever since I've been home from the hospital in which they

thought I may have c-diff, I've been washing with antibacterial dial soap and

water. i just bought some in liquid form and plan to shower with that. I think

about this often and how many germs we pick up out there. First thing I do when

I get home form anywhere is wash my hands.

 

Thanks for the tip,

>To: " Stillsdisease " <Stillsdisease >

>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:18 PM

>Subject: Re: Kirk and C-Diff

>

>

> 

>Hey everyone.  I haven't been online for weeks due to the fact that I've been

having many many awesome fevers every single day all summer and am trying to

slog through 127 emails right now as my " one thing I will make myself do today "

haha even though that " one thing I should get my butt off the couch for today "

should really be my NIH paperwork (which will be like writing a research

paper/book), doing something about my impending SSDI hearing in 3 wks (haven't

been able to even speak with my lawyer yet), take a shower, feed myself, you

know the basics. haha. I just wanted to mention in case anyone doesn't know that

Purell-type alcohol based hand sanitizer is ineffective with C-Diff. Before I

got sick, I was an RN on a busy medical-surgical floor and we saw c-diff fairly

often, usually in the elderly. But a lot of people don't know that you really

have to use good old fashioned soap & water hand washing. C-Diff spreads via

spores that the sanitizer

>often can't penetrate. The warm water with soapy lather and adequate friction

from scrubbing gets most of the spores. Even a lot of the nursing staff at the

hospital I worked at didn't realize it just a couple years ago but then we

started putting up signs over the sanitzer dispensers. Just fyi. Here's a quote

from an article from Science Daily:

> " The results were striking: the protocols that involved washing with water

eliminated more than 98% of the bacteria, while washing with an alcohol-based

solution eliminated almost none!. "  

>Anyway, just fyi.          Aubrey

>

>

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Hi Aubrey,

 

Thanks for the tip. Ever since I've been home from the hospital in which they

thought I may have c-diff, I've been washing with antibacterial dial soap and

water. i just bought some in liquid form and plan to shower with that. I think

about this often and how many germs we pick up out there. First thing I do when

I get home form anywhere is wash my hands.

 

Thanks for the tip,

>To: " Stillsdisease " <Stillsdisease >

>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:18 PM

>Subject: Re: Kirk and C-Diff

>

>

> 

>Hey everyone.  I haven't been online for weeks due to the fact that I've been

having many many awesome fevers every single day all summer and am trying to

slog through 127 emails right now as my " one thing I will make myself do today "

haha even though that " one thing I should get my butt off the couch for today "

should really be my NIH paperwork (which will be like writing a research

paper/book), doing something about my impending SSDI hearing in 3 wks (haven't

been able to even speak with my lawyer yet), take a shower, feed myself, you

know the basics. haha. I just wanted to mention in case anyone doesn't know that

Purell-type alcohol based hand sanitizer is ineffective with C-Diff. Before I

got sick, I was an RN on a busy medical-surgical floor and we saw c-diff fairly

often, usually in the elderly. But a lot of people don't know that you really

have to use good old fashioned soap & water hand washing. C-Diff spreads via

spores that the sanitizer

>often can't penetrate. The warm water with soapy lather and adequate friction

from scrubbing gets most of the spores. Even a lot of the nursing staff at the

hospital I worked at didn't realize it just a couple years ago but then we

started putting up signs over the sanitzer dispensers. Just fyi. Here's a quote

from an article from Science Daily:

> " The results were striking: the protocols that involved washing with water

eliminated more than 98% of the bacteria, while washing with an alcohol-based

solution eliminated almost none!. "  

>Anyway, just fyi.          Aubrey

>

>

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Hi Aubrey,

 

Thanks for the tip. Ever since I've been home from the hospital in which they

thought I may have c-diff, I've been washing with antibacterial dial soap and

water. i just bought some in liquid form and plan to shower with that. I think

about this often and how many germs we pick up out there. First thing I do when

I get home form anywhere is wash my hands.

 

Thanks for the tip,

>To: " Stillsdisease " <Stillsdisease >

>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:18 PM

>Subject: Re: Kirk and C-Diff

>

>

> 

>Hey everyone.  I haven't been online for weeks due to the fact that I've been

having many many awesome fevers every single day all summer and am trying to

slog through 127 emails right now as my " one thing I will make myself do today "

haha even though that " one thing I should get my butt off the couch for today "

should really be my NIH paperwork (which will be like writing a research

paper/book), doing something about my impending SSDI hearing in 3 wks (haven't

been able to even speak with my lawyer yet), take a shower, feed myself, you

know the basics. haha. I just wanted to mention in case anyone doesn't know that

Purell-type alcohol based hand sanitizer is ineffective with C-Diff. Before I

got sick, I was an RN on a busy medical-surgical floor and we saw c-diff fairly

often, usually in the elderly. But a lot of people don't know that you really

have to use good old fashioned soap & water hand washing. C-Diff spreads via

spores that the sanitizer

>often can't penetrate. The warm water with soapy lather and adequate friction

from scrubbing gets most of the spores. Even a lot of the nursing staff at the

hospital I worked at didn't realize it just a couple years ago but then we

started putting up signs over the sanitzer dispensers. Just fyi. Here's a quote

from an article from Science Daily:

> " The results were striking: the protocols that involved washing with water

eliminated more than 98% of the bacteria, while washing with an alcohol-based

solution eliminated almost none!. "  

>Anyway, just fyi.          Aubrey

>

>

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