Re: Re: Lower cholesterol without drugs

[Guest guest]

Is having high cholesterol part of Still's or is it medication induced? I have

always had okay (3.6?) and last blood test my doctor said it was 5.8 and of

concern. Thanks for your help.

>

> Here's my 2 cents... we have tried several presciption & over the counter

options, & we found one that has not only worked for me, but several others

close to me. In fact, one friend called me yesterday to tell me in 30 days her

cholesterol dropped 99 points w/ only this one change. We take " Carlson Super

Omega 3 Gems Fish Oil Concentrate 1000mg " , 2x per day. My doc says take 3x/day,

2x worked for us! It MUST be this brand, trust me, I've tried several others &

done countless hours of research, this truly is the best! You always want your

EPA to be higher then the DHA, just FYI. You can buy this from The Vitamin Shop

or online. Also, where Salmon is concerned, as long as it's " Wild Pacific or

Wild Alaskan " it's great for you! BUT, PLEASE KNOW!!!!, that is salmon is not

wild, but farm raised, it has a higher level of Omega 6, which can actually HURT

AUTOIMMUNE or joint & muscle issues!!

>

> As for liver levels & counts, the best thing I've found is Milk Thistle. I

went off the mtx injections when it ran out here & switched to arava that

tripled my AST & ALT, I went on Milk Thistle & it cut it down.

>

> Also, just fyi, don't take ANYTHING w/ prim rose in it, it can have a reverse

effect on autoimmune diseases.

>

> I alos take a COQ10, Folic Acid, & for perscriptions Limbrel & prozac. Hope

this helps.

>

> Good Luck!

> a

>

>

> >

> > > **

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello ,

> > >

> > > I have a list of foods that are helpful in lowering cholesterol.

> > >

> > > 1.. Apples: Apple pectin is a soluble fiber that helps draw cholesterol

> > > out of the system. The flavonoids (Quercetin) in apples act as a powerful

> > > antioxidant that seems to short-circuit the process that leads

╲bad╡ LDL

> > > cholesterol to accumulate in the bloodstream.

> > > 2.. Beans: Beans and vegetables are an excellent source of soluble fiber

> > > and high in vegetable protein. By properly combing beans with brown rice,

> > > seeds, corn, wheat you can create a complete protein. Properly combined

> > > beans become an excellent substitute for red meat protein that is high in

> > > saturated fat.

> > > 3.. Brown Rice: The oil in whole brown rice, not its fiber, lowers

> > > cholesterol. Brown rice can be combined with beans to form an inexpensive

> > > complete protein low in saturated fat. In addition, this whole grain also

> > > supplies good doses of heart-healthy fiber, magnesium and B vitamins.

> > > 4.. Cinnamon: A study published in the journal Diabetes Care found that

> > > half a teaspoon of cinnamon a day significantly reduces blood sugar levels

> > > in people with type-2 diabetes. It also reduces triglyceride, LDL, the bad

> > > cholesterol and the total cholesterol level.

> > > 5.. Garlic: Garlic contains the chemical allicin, which has been shown to

> > > kill bacteria and fungi, and alleviate certain digestive disorders. It

also

> > > lowers the blood-clotting properties of blood. But the most notable

> > > attention garlic has received over recent years is its possible usefulness

> > > in lowering cholesterol levels.

> > > 6.. Grapes: Flavonoids in grapes protect LDL cholesterol from free radical

> > > damage and reduce platelet clumping. The LDL lowering effect of grapes

> > > comes from a compound that grapes produce normally to resist mold. The

> > > darker the grape, the better.

> > > 7.. Oats: Oatmeal contains soluble fiber, which reduces your low-density

> > > lipoprotein (LDL), the ╲bad╡ cholesterol. Five to 10 grams of

soluble fiber

> > > a day decreases LDL cholesterol by about 5 percent. Eating 1.5 cups of

> > > cooked oatmeal provides 4.5 grams of fiber â• " enough to lower your

> > > cholesterol.

> > > 8.. Salmon: The major health components in salmon include: Omega-3

> > > fatty-acids and protein. These components have a favorable cardiovascular

> > > effect. The American Heart Association recommends that people include at

> > > least two servings of fish/week, particularly fatty fish (salmon, tuna,

> > > mackerel, sardines, anchovies and herring), in their diets.

> > > 9.. Soy: The top health promoting components in soybeans are isoflavones

> > > and soluble fiber. Isoflavones act like human hormone that can lower LDL

> > > cholesterol and raise HDL cholesterol. All soy products (soybeans, soy

> > > nuts, tofu, tempeh, soy milk, etc.) are complete proteins.

> > > 10.. Walnuts: Walnuts can significantly reduce blood cholesterol because

> > > they are rich in polyunsaturated fatty acids. Walnuts also help keep blood

> > > vessels healthy and elastic. Almonds appear to have a similar effect,

> > > resulting in a marked improvement within just four weeks. A

> > > cholesterol-lowering diet with a little less than 1/3 of a cup of walnuts

a

> > > day may reduce LDL cholesterol by 12%.

> > > This information was taken from

> > > http://blisstree.com/feel/top-10-cholesterol-lowering-foods/

> > >

> > > Hope this helps.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > From:

> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 PM

> > > To: Stillsdisease

> > > Subject: Re: general group site help

> > >

> > > Anyone know anything OTC that can help Triglcerides & Cholesterol? I don't

> > > respond well to statin drugs but am tolerating gemfibrozil twice daily.

> > > It's not helping. In 2005 i needed help with my husband, he had 6 major

> > > surgeries in 16 months (Cabg x 4 vessel, 2 hip replacements 6 months

apart,

> > > Left kidney nephrectomy, and 2 colon surgeries. Colon & kidney for cancer)

> > > Our son came to La. & moved us up here to Indiana. I qualified for free

> > > health care from the VA because his cancer was from Agent Orange in Viet

> > > Nam. The VA here is a teaching hospital, so i see a lot of Dr.'s, but they

> > > did diagnosed my Still's and don't give me any problem's over meds ,even

my

> > > kineret. I was on meds for depression had so many admissions at first here

> > > it was easier to just stay off. Hate to admit it but i weighed 285 lbs and

> > > am almost 5ft. Yeah a lot of depression. Any way more to the point, i am

> > > down to 180 lbs without trying. I have severe bouts of vomiting to the

> > > point i have to have IV fluids. I've been scoped and no reason to be doing

> > > this. My labs are out of wack all the time. If anyone knows of OTC stuff

to

> > > help let me know. I do need to loose another35 - 40 lbs, but i worry about

> > > after that.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I've been told it's medician & along w/ weight & stress induced.

Sent from my iPhone

> Is having high cholesterol part of Still's or is it medication induced? I have

always had okay (3.6?) and last blood test my doctor said it was 5.8 and of

concern. Thanks for your help.

>

>

>

> >

> > Here's my 2 cents... we have tried several presciption & over the counter

options, & we found one that has not only worked for me, but several others

close to me. In fact, one friend called me yesterday to tell me in 30 days her

cholesterol dropped 99 points w/ only this one change. We take " Carlson Super

Omega 3 Gems Fish Oil Concentrate 1000mg " , 2x per day. My doc says take 3x/day,

2x worked for us! It MUST be this brand, trust me, I've tried several others &

done countless hours of research, this truly is the best! You always want your

EPA to be higher then the DHA, just FYI. You can buy this from The Vitamin Shop

or online. Also, where Salmon is concerned, as long as it's " Wild Pacific or

Wild Alaskan " it's great for you! BUT, PLEASE KNOW!!!!, that is salmon is not

wild, but farm raised, it has a higher level of Omega 6, which can actually HURT

AUTOIMMUNE or joint & muscle issues!!

> >

> > As for liver levels & counts, the best thing I've found is Milk Thistle. I

went off the mtx injections when it ran out here & switched to arava that

tripled my AST & ALT, I went on Milk Thistle & it cut it down.

> >

> > Also, just fyi, don't take ANYTHING w/ prim rose in it, it can have a

reverse effect on autoimmune diseases.

> >

> > I alos take a COQ10, Folic Acid, & for perscriptions Limbrel & prozac. Hope

this helps.

> >

> > Good Luck!

> > a

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > **

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello ,

> > > >

> > > > I have a list of foods that are helpful in lowering cholesterol.

> > > >

> > > > 1.. Apples: Apple pectin is a soluble fiber that helps draw cholesterol

> > > > out of the system. The flavonoids (Quercetin) in apples act as a

powerful

> > > > antioxidant that seems to short-circuit the process that leads

╲bad╡ LDL

> > > > cholesterol to accumulate in the bloodstream.

> > > > 2.. Beans: Beans and vegetables are an excellent source of soluble fiber

> > > > and high in vegetable protein. By properly combing beans with brown

rice,

> > > > seeds, corn, wheat you can create a complete protein. Properly combined

> > > > beans become an excellent substitute for red meat protein that is high

in

> > > > saturated fat.

> > > > 3.. Brown Rice: The oil in whole brown rice, not its fiber, lowers

> > > > cholesterol. Brown rice can be combined with beans to form an

inexpensive

> > > > complete protein low in saturated fat. In addition, this whole grain

also

> > > > supplies good doses of heart-healthy fiber, magnesium and B vitamins.

> > > > 4.. Cinnamon: A study published in the journal Diabetes Care found that

> > > > half a teaspoon of cinnamon a day significantly reduces blood sugar

levels

> > > > in people with type-2 diabetes. It also reduces triglyceride, LDL, the

bad

> > > > cholesterol and the total cholesterol level.

> > > > 5.. Garlic: Garlic contains the chemical allicin, which has been shown

to

> > > > kill bacteria and fungi, and alleviate certain digestive disorders. It

also

> > > > lowers the blood-clotting properties of blood. But the most notable

> > > > attention garlic has received over recent years is its possible

usefulness

> > > > in lowering cholesterol levels.

> > > > 6.. Grapes: Flavonoids in grapes protect LDL cholesterol from free

radical

> > > > damage and reduce platelet clumping. The LDL lowering effect of grapes

> > > > comes from a compound that grapes produce normally to resist mold. The

> > > > darker the grape, the better.

> > > > 7.. Oats: Oatmeal contains soluble fiber, which reduces your low-density

> > > > lipoprotein (LDL), the ╲bad╡ cholesterol. Five to 10 grams

of soluble fiber

> > > > a day decreases LDL cholesterol by about 5 percent. Eating 1.5 cups of

> > > > cooked oatmeal provides 4.5 grams of fiber â• " enough to lower your

> > > > cholesterol.

> > > > 8.. Salmon: The major health components in salmon include: Omega-3

> > > > fatty-acids and protein. These components have a favorable

cardiovascular

> > > > effect. The American Heart Association recommends that people include at

> > > > least two servings of fish/week, particularly fatty fish (salmon, tuna,

> > > > mackerel, sardines, anchovies and herring), in their diets.

> > > > 9.. Soy: The top health promoting components in soybeans are isoflavones

> > > > and soluble fiber. Isoflavones act like human hormone that can lower LDL

> > > > cholesterol and raise HDL cholesterol. All soy products (soybeans, soy

> > > > nuts, tofu, tempeh, soy milk, etc.) are complete proteins.

> > > > 10.. Walnuts: Walnuts can significantly reduce blood cholesterol because

> > > > they are rich in polyunsaturated fatty acids. Walnuts also help keep

blood

> > > > vessels healthy and elastic. Almonds appear to have a similar effect,

> > > > resulting in a marked improvement within just four weeks. A

> > > > cholesterol-lowering diet with a little less than 1/3 of a cup of

walnuts a

> > > > day may reduce LDL cholesterol by 12%.

> > > > This information was taken from

> > > > http://blisstree.com/feel/top-10-cholesterol-lowering-foods/

> > > >

> > > > Hope this helps.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From:

> > > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 PM

> > > > To: Stillsdisease

> > > > Subject: Re: general group site help

> > > >

> > > > Anyone know anything OTC that can help Triglcerides & Cholesterol? I

don't

> > > > respond well to statin drugs but am tolerating gemfibrozil twice daily.

> > > > It's not helping. In 2005 i needed help with my husband, he had 6 major

> > > > surgeries in 16 months (Cabg x 4 vessel, 2 hip replacements 6 months

apart,

> > > > Left kidney nephrectomy, and 2 colon surgeries. Colon & kidney for

cancer)

> > > > Our son came to La. & moved us up here to Indiana. I qualified for free

> > > > health care from the VA because his cancer was from Agent Orange in Viet

> > > > Nam. The VA here is a teaching hospital, so i see a lot of Dr.'s, but

they

> > > > did diagnosed my Still's and don't give me any problem's over meds ,even

my

> > > > kineret. I was on meds for depression had so many admissions at first

here

> > > > it was easier to just stay off. Hate to admit it but i weighed 285 lbs

and

> > > > am almost 5ft. Yeah a lot of depression. Any way more to the point, i am

> > > > down to 180 lbs without trying. I have severe bouts of vomiting to the

> > > > point i have to have IV fluids. I've been scoped and no reason to be

doing

> > > > this. My labs are out of wack all the time. If anyone knows of OTC stuff

to

> > > > help let me know. I do need to loose another35 - 40 lbs, but i worry

about

> > > > after that.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Having high cholesterol has nothing to do with Stills as such. High cholesterol

is in part hereditary, in part diet and weight related. You can be thin and

excercise all the time and still have high cholesterol. Now, the heavier you

are, the greater your risk of having high cholesterol....and those of us with

Stills don't get around as well as we used to, and many of us have gained weight

since we've been diagnosed. We can't excercise as much as we should, if at all;

we have been put on steroids and packed on pounds; our bodies just don't MOVE. I

have not heard of any particular meds that cause your cholesterol to go up, but

that does not man they don't exist. I know garlic is suppose to be good for

lowering cholesterol as well as whole grains. As far as suppliments, fish oil is

the only thing I know of that has been PROVEN to help lower cholesterol.

Tangent:

Geeze...how many of us DON'T take meds to counteract the meds we take? Anyone?

LOL when I analyze my meds, I think...hmmm, I take this med because I will die

with out it (Kineret)...yes, that's how bad my Stills is. My RD says if we

hadn't found a way to supress my immune system as quickly as we did I would not

be here. So, Kineret supresses my immune system so I stay alive, yet it puts me

at risk for diseases that can kill me...ironic. I take MTX so I can function.

Without it and the Kineret, I could not use my hand (they were useless for

anything requiring fine motor skills) but it is damaging my kidneys. I have to

take folic acid to help counter act the side effects of the MTX. We ARE a funky

lot, us Stills patients, are we not! I told my hubby when I was first diagnosed,

leave it to ME to get something unusual..I AM unique!

April

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Re: general group site help

> > > >

> > > > Anyone know anything OTC that can help Triglcerides & Cholesterol? I

don't

> > > > respond well to statin drugs but am tolerating gemfibrozil twice daily.

> > > > It's not helping. In 2005 i needed help with my husband, he had 6 major

> > > > surgeries in 16 months (Cabg x 4 vessel, 2 hip replacements 6 months

apart,

> > > > Left kidney nephrectomy, and 2 colon surgeries. Colon & kidney for

cancer)

> > > > Our son came to La. & moved us up here to Indiana. I qualified for free

> > > > health care from the VA because his cancer was from Agent Orange in Viet

> > > > Nam. The VA here is a teaching hospital, so i see a lot of Dr.'s, but

they

> > > > did diagnosed my Still's and don't give me any problem's over meds ,even

my

> > > > kineret. I was on meds for depression had so many admissions at first

here

> > > > it was easier to just stay off. Hate to admit it but i weighed 285 lbs

and

> > > > am almost 5ft. Yeah a lot of depression. Any way more to the point, i am

> > > > down to 180 lbs without trying. I have severe bouts of vomiting to the

> > > > point i have to have IV fluids. I've been scoped and no reason to be

doing

> > > > this. My labs are out of wack all the time. If anyone knows of OTC stuff

to

> > > > help let me know. I do need to loose another35 - 40 lbs, but i worry

about

> > > > after that.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Group,

My Dad went on a vegan diet and had had high blood pressure all his life and

high cholesterol. He was on it 6 months as was able to go off all blood pressure

meds, and cholesterol lowering medication. It really worked. He was strict and

maintained the diet for at least 3 years. He went back to slowly adding other

things back into his diet but has maintained his low lab levels by continuing to

eat fairly well. He is 78 years young and active each day.

From: PMLuten

Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:33 AM

To: Stillsdisease

Subject: Re: Re: Lower cholesterol without drugs

I've been told it's medician & along w/ weight & stress induced.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Maureen Kingsley <mailto:mkingsley%40y7mail.com>

wrote:

> Is having high cholesterol part of Still's or is it medication induced? I have

always had okay (3.6?) and last blood test my doctor said it was 5.8 and of

concern. Thanks for your help.

>

> On 18/03/2012, at 12:26 AM, mailto:pmluten%40bellsouth.net wrote:

>

> >

> > Here's my 2 cents... we have tried several presciption & over the counter

options, & we found one that has not only worked for me, but several others

close to me. In fact, one friend called me yesterday to tell me in 30 days her

cholesterol dropped 99 points w/ only this one change. We take " Carlson Super

Omega 3 Gems Fish Oil Concentrate 1000mg " , 2x per day. My doc says take 3x/day,

2x worked for us! It MUST be this brand, trust me, I've tried several others &

done countless hours of research, this truly is the best! You always want your

EPA to be higher then the DHA, just FYI. You can buy this from The Vitamin Shop

or online. Also, where Salmon is concerned, as long as it's " Wild Pacific or

Wild Alaskan " it's great for you! BUT, PLEASE KNOW!!!!, that is salmon is not

wild, but farm raised, it has a higher level of Omega 6, which can actually HURT

AUTOIMMUNE or joint & muscle issues!!

> >

> > As for liver levels & counts, the best thing I've found is Milk Thistle. I

went off the mtx injections when it ran out here & switched to arava that

tripled my AST & ALT, I went on Milk Thistle & it cut it down.

> >

> > Also, just fyi, don't take ANYTHING w/ prim rose in it, it can have a

reverse effect on autoimmune diseases.

> >

> > I alos take a COQ10, Folic Acid, & for perscriptions Limbrel & prozac. Hope

this helps.

> >

> > Good Luck!

> > a

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > **

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello ,

> > > >

> > > > I have a list of foods that are helpful in lowering cholesterol.

> > > >

> > > > 1.. Apples: Apple pectin is a soluble fiber that helps draw cholesterol

> > > > out of the system. The flavonoids (Quercetin) in apples act as a

powerful

> > > > antioxidant that seems to short-circuit the process that leads

╲bad╡ LDL

> > > > cholesterol to accumulate in the bloodstream.

> > > > 2.. Beans: Beans and vegetables are an excellent source of soluble fiber

> > > > and high in vegetable protein. By properly combing beans with brown

rice,

> > > > seeds, corn, wheat you can create a complete protein. Properly combined

> > > > beans become an excellent substitute for red meat protein that is high

in

> > > > saturated fat.

> > > > 3.. Brown Rice: The oil in whole brown rice, not its fiber, lowers

> > > > cholesterol. Brown rice can be combined with beans to form an

inexpensive

> > > > complete protein low in saturated fat. In addition, this whole grain

also

> > > > supplies good doses of heart-healthy fiber, magnesium and B vitamins.

> > > > 4.. Cinnamon: A study published in the journal Diabetes Care found that

> > > > half a teaspoon of cinnamon a day significantly reduces blood sugar

levels

> > > > in people with type-2 diabetes. It also reduces triglyceride, LDL, the

bad

> > > > cholesterol and the total cholesterol level.

> > > > 5.. Garlic: Garlic contains the chemical allicin, which has been shown

to

> > > > kill bacteria and fungi, and alleviate certain digestive disorders. It

also

> > > > lowers the blood-clotting properties of blood. But the most notable

> > > > attention garlic has received over recent years is its possible

usefulness

> > > > in lowering cholesterol levels.

> > > > 6.. Grapes: Flavonoids in grapes protect LDL cholesterol from free

radical

> > > > damage and reduce platelet clumping. The LDL lowering effect of grapes

> > > > comes from a compound that grapes produce normally to resist mold. The

> > > > darker the grape, the better.

> > > > 7.. Oats: Oatmeal contains soluble fiber, which reduces your low-density

> > > > lipoprotein (LDL), the ╲bad╡ cholesterol. Five to 10 grams

of soluble fiber

> > > > a day decreases LDL cholesterol by about 5 percent. Eating 1.5 cups of

> > > > cooked oatmeal provides 4.5 grams of fiber â• " enough to lower your

> > > > cholesterol.

> > > > 8.. Salmon: The major health components in salmon include: Omega-3

> > > > fatty-acids and protein. These components have a favorable

cardiovascular

> > > > effect. The American Heart Association recommends that people include at

> > > > least two servings of fish/week, particularly fatty fish (salmon, tuna,

> > > > mackerel, sardines, anchovies and herring), in their diets.

> > > > 9.. Soy: The top health promoting components in soybeans are isoflavones

> > > > and soluble fiber. Isoflavones act like human hormone that can lower LDL

> > > > cholesterol and raise HDL cholesterol. All soy products (soybeans, soy

> > > > nuts, tofu, tempeh, soy milk, etc.) are complete proteins.

> > > > 10.. Walnuts: Walnuts can significantly reduce blood cholesterol because

> > > > they are rich in polyunsaturated fatty acids. Walnuts also help keep

blood

> > > > vessels healthy and elastic. Almonds appear to have a similar effect,

> > > > resulting in a marked improvement within just four weeks. A

> > > > cholesterol-lowering diet with a little less than 1/3 of a cup of

walnuts a

> > > > day may reduce LDL cholesterol by 12%.

> > > > This information was taken from

> > > > http://blisstree.com/feel/top-10-cholesterol-lowering-foods/

> > > >

> > > > Hope this helps.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From:

> > > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 PM

> > > > To: mailto:Stillsdisease%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > Subject: Re: general group site help

> > > >

> > > > Anyone know anything OTC that can help Triglcerides & Cholesterol? I

don't

> > > > respond well to statin drugs but am tolerating gemfibrozil twice daily.

> > > > It's not helping. In 2005 i needed help with my husband, he had 6 major

> > > > surgeries in 16 months (Cabg x 4 vessel, 2 hip replacements 6 months

apart,

> > > > Left kidney nephrectomy, and 2 colon surgeries. Colon & kidney for

cancer)

> > > > Our son came to La. & moved us up here to Indiana. I qualified for free

> > > > health care from the VA because his cancer was from Agent Orange in Viet

> > > > Nam. The VA here is a teaching hospital, so i see a lot of Dr.'s, but

they

> > > > did diagnosed my Still's and don't give me any problem's over meds ,even

my

> > > > kineret. I was on meds for depression had so many admissions at first

here

> > > > it was easier to just stay off. Hate to admit it but i weighed 285 lbs

and

> > > > am almost 5ft. Yeah a lot of depression. Any way more to the point, i am

> > > > down to 180 lbs without trying. I have severe bouts of vomiting to the

> > > > point i have to have IV fluids. I've been scoped and no reason to be

doing

> > > > this. My labs are out of wack all the time. If anyone knows of OTC stuff

to

> > > > help let me know. I do need to loose another35 - 40 lbs, but i worry

about

> > > > after that.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

It must just be lack of exercise then. I am (lucky me) only about 8kgs over my

normal weight and my diet has not changed, I've always eaten a healthy diet. I

always had low cholesterol but now I don't exercise because I can't. A lap of

the supermarket or a stroll to the end of my street and I'm done these days. I

used to walk everywhere and could walk all day! Bugger. However I do appreciate

that I am still (pardon the pun) alive and on my way toward remission. And yes,

I am also the eternal optimist. Like April said, we are a unique bunch. Thank

you for being supportive.

> Hi Group,

>

> My Dad went on a vegan diet and had had high blood pressure all his life and

high cholesterol. He was on it 6 months as was able to go off all blood pressure

meds, and cholesterol lowering medication. It really worked. He was strict and

maintained the diet for at least 3 years. He went back to slowly adding other

things back into his diet but has maintained his low lab levels by continuing to

eat fairly well. He is 78 years young and active each day.

>

>

>

> From: PMLuten

> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:33 AM

> To: Stillsdisease

> Subject: Re: Re: Lower cholesterol without drugs

>

> I've been told it's medician & along w/ weight & stress induced.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Mar 17, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Maureen Kingsley <mailto:mkingsley%40y7mail.com>

wrote:

>

> > Is having high cholesterol part of Still's or is it medication induced? I

have always had okay (3.6?) and last blood test my doctor said it was 5.8 and of

concern. Thanks for your help.

> >

> > On 18/03/2012, at 12:26 AM, mailto:pmluten%40bellsouth.net wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Here's my 2 cents... we have tried several presciption & over the counter

options, & we found one that has not only worked for me, but several others

close to me. In fact, one friend called me yesterday to tell me in 30 days her

cholesterol dropped 99 points w/ only this one change. We take " Carlson Super

Omega 3 Gems Fish Oil Concentrate 1000mg " , 2x per day. My doc says take 3x/day,

2x worked for us! It MUST be this brand, trust me, I've tried several others &

done countless hours of research, this truly is the best! You always want your

EPA to be higher then the DHA, just FYI. You can buy this from The Vitamin Shop

or online. Also, where Salmon is concerned, as long as it's " Wild Pacific or

Wild Alaskan " it's great for you! BUT, PLEASE KNOW!!!!, that is salmon is not

wild, but farm raised, it has a higher level of Omega 6, which can actually HURT

AUTOIMMUNE or joint & muscle issues!!

> > >

> > > As for liver levels & counts, the best thing I've found is Milk Thistle. I

went off the mtx injections when it ran out here & switched to arava that

tripled my AST & ALT, I went on Milk Thistle & it cut it down.

> > >

> > > Also, just fyi, don't take ANYTHING w/ prim rose in it, it can have a

reverse effect on autoimmune diseases.

> > >

> > > I alos take a COQ10, Folic Acid, & for perscriptions Limbrel & prozac.

Hope this helps.

> > >

> > > Good Luck!

> > > a

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > **

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello ,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a list of foods that are helpful in lowering cholesterol.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.. Apples: Apple pectin is a soluble fiber that helps draw

cholesterol

> > > > > out of the system. The flavonoids (Quercetin) in apples act as a

powerful

> > > > > antioxidant that seems to short-circuit the process that leads

╲bad╡ LDL

> > > > > cholesterol to accumulate in the bloodstream.

> > > > > 2.. Beans: Beans and vegetables are an excellent source of soluble

fiber

> > > > > and high in vegetable protein. By properly combing beans with brown

rice,

> > > > > seeds, corn, wheat you can create a complete protein. Properly

combined

> > > > > beans become an excellent substitute for red meat protein that is high

in

> > > > > saturated fat.

> > > > > 3.. Brown Rice: The oil in whole brown rice, not its fiber, lowers

> > > > > cholesterol. Brown rice can be combined with beans to form an

inexpensive

> > > > > complete protein low in saturated fat. In addition, this whole grain

also

> > > > > supplies good doses of heart-healthy fiber, magnesium and B vitamins.

> > > > > 4.. Cinnamon: A study published in the journal Diabetes Care found

that

> > > > > half a teaspoon of cinnamon a day significantly reduces blood sugar

levels

> > > > > in people with type-2 diabetes. It also reduces triglyceride, LDL, the

bad

> > > > > cholesterol and the total cholesterol level.

> > > > > 5.. Garlic: Garlic contains the chemical allicin, which has been shown

to

> > > > > kill bacteria and fungi, and alleviate certain digestive disorders. It

also

> > > > > lowers the blood-clotting properties of blood. But the most notable

> > > > > attention garlic has received over recent years is its possible

usefulness

> > > > > in lowering cholesterol levels.

> > > > > 6.. Grapes: Flavonoids in grapes protect LDL cholesterol from free

radical

> > > > > damage and reduce platelet clumping. The LDL lowering effect of grapes

> > > > > comes from a compound that grapes produce normally to resist mold. The

> > > > > darker the grape, the better.

> > > > > 7.. Oats: Oatmeal contains soluble fiber, which reduces your

low-density

> > > > > lipoprotein (LDL), the ╲bad╡ cholesterol. Five to 10 grams

of soluble fiber

> > > > > a day decreases LDL cholesterol by about 5 percent. Eating 1.5 cups of

> > > > > cooked oatmeal provides 4.5 grams of fiber â• " enough to lower your

> > > > > cholesterol.

> > > > > 8.. Salmon: The major health components in salmon include: Omega-3

> > > > > fatty-acids and protein. These components have a favorable

cardiovascular

> > > > > effect. The American Heart Association recommends that people include

at

> > > > > least two servings of fish/week, particularly fatty fish (salmon,

tuna,

> > > > > mackerel, sardines, anchovies and herring), in their diets.

> > > > > 9.. Soy: The top health promoting components in soybeans are

isoflavones

> > > > > and soluble fiber. Isoflavones act like human hormone that can lower

LDL

> > > > > cholesterol and raise HDL cholesterol. All soy products (soybeans, soy

> > > > > nuts, tofu, tempeh, soy milk, etc.) are complete proteins.

> > > > > 10.. Walnuts: Walnuts can significantly reduce blood cholesterol

because

> > > > > they are rich in polyunsaturated fatty acids. Walnuts also help keep

blood

> > > > > vessels healthy and elastic. Almonds appear to have a similar effect,

> > > > > resulting in a marked improvement within just four weeks. A

> > > > > cholesterol-lowering diet with a little less than 1/3 of a cup of

walnuts a

> > > > > day may reduce LDL cholesterol by 12%.

> > > > > This information was taken from

> > > > > http://blisstree.com/feel/top-10-cholesterol-lowering-foods/

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope this helps.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > From:

> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:53 PM

> > > > > To: mailto:Stillsdisease%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > > Subject: Re: general group site help

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyone know anything OTC that can help Triglcerides & Cholesterol? I

don't

> > > > > respond well to statin drugs but am tolerating gemfibrozil twice

daily.

> > > > > It's not helping. In 2005 i needed help with my husband, he had 6

major

> > > > > surgeries in 16 months (Cabg x 4 vessel, 2 hip replacements 6 months

apart,

> > > > > Left kidney nephrectomy, and 2 colon surgeries. Colon & kidney for

cancer)

> > > > > Our son came to La. & moved us up here to Indiana. I qualified for

free

> > > > > health care from the VA because his cancer was from Agent Orange in

Viet

> > > > > Nam. The VA here is a teaching hospital, so i see a lot of Dr.'s, but

they

> > > > > did diagnosed my Still's and don't give me any problem's over meds

,even my

> > > > > kineret. I was on meds for depression had so many admissions at first

here

> > > > > it was easier to just stay off. Hate to admit it but i weighed 285 lbs

and

> > > > > am almost 5ft. Yeah a lot of depression. Any way more to the point, i

am

> > > > > down to 180 lbs without trying. I have severe bouts of vomiting to the

> > > > > point i have to have IV fluids. I've been scoped and no reason to be

doing

> > > > > this. My labs are out of wack all the time. If anyone knows of OTC

stuff to

> > > > > help let me know. I do need to loose another35 - 40 lbs, but i worry

about

> > > > > after that.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >