Re: Extreme lows - re-explanation

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In a message dated 06/03/2001 7:21:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

geoffb@... writes:

> I would be EXTREMELY hesitant to place a blanket " point value " on

> Gluc tabs. The reaction/requirements from one individual to another

> simply won't allow such cut and dried results.

>

> Such a statement of " absolute value " could be extremely dangerous to

> someone who doesnt' react as readily as you do.

>

yes, but thats only common sense? as madge said, her husband already tried 3,

then was advised to try more, just because he takes 8 doesn't mean everyone

should, I know some diabetics where 1 tab raised them over 35 points. Depends

on your glucose factor.

I mean if your counting carbs you know how much the 4 carb glucose tab will

raise you.

Its obvious if bg isn't going up, of course you'd take more tabs, and this

can be a scary time, but at the same time trying not to end up in the roller

coaster effect or eating too many carbs.YMMV

carol

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>---The diabetic nurse told my husband that. He only took 3 and it

>did nothing for him. He told her and they she told him next time take

>8.

>Madge

You need to take whatever is necessary to help you start feeling

better. Then you need to eat something (normally carbish) that will

help keep your BG's up for an extended time period.

The faster, at least for me, I start " treating " the low, the shorter

the time I have the " low hangover. " If I have a low sneak up on me,

and it goes on for 10-20 minutes, I can be effected and feel bad for

the rest of the day.

--

Geoff Beneze

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---The diabetic nurse told my husband that. He only took 3 and it

did nothing for him. He told her and they she told him next time take

8.

Madge

In diabetes@y..., astrocarly@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 06/02/2001 11:10:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> pmuhamma@c... writes:

>

>

> > So I am home and remember and I take it and BOOM my BG level is

47!!

> >

>

> were you more active thn usual? you need to report this low to your

dr, you

> may need a med readjustment.

> Glucose tabs, true are the best way to bring up a low fast, but 8?

that would

> raise you 160 points to your current bg. Each tab will bring you up

about 20

> points. So about 3 here would do it.

> carol

>

>

>

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>

>yes, but thats only common sense? as madge said, her husband already tried 3,

>then was advised to try more, just because he takes 8 doesn't mean everyone

>should, I know some diabetics where 1 tab raised them over 35 points. Depends

>on your glucose factor.

>I mean if your counting carbs you know how much the 4 carb glucose tab will

>raise you.

It's common sense if you've had some experience with the problem. To

a new person, " common sense " is whatever WE say, so we need to

exercise caution in that regard.

I'm near obsessive about my record keeping, but have yet to establish

a relationship between carb consumption and BG rise, my body simply

doesn't react consistently enough to make such a correlation

(although I wish it would.)

All too often, the new people have been given some blanket

instruction by the doc or educator and, in their newness, tend to see

that as the only treatment option. Most of us have had enough

experience " outside the guidelines " to cover a broader range of

options.

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Geoff Beneze

Tempe, AZ

BEAST Enterprises

Gunsmithing, target stands

http://www.beast-enterprises.com

NRA life Member

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In a message dated 06/04/2001 12:27:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

geoffb@... writes:

> I'm near obsessive about my record keeping, but have yet to establish

> a relationship between carb consumption and BG rise, my body simply

> doesn't react consistently enough to make such a correlation

> (although I wish it would.)

>

Well, be patient in this regard, :-), after a while you'll get it down pat,

some people can go along time on the same regime, others it changes all the

time, thats why we need to test very frequently, it took me over 2 years, not

so much the carb/bg ratio, but for me the basal rate of my insulin.

I also am absessive in record keeping, its my job!!! LOL it comes natural to

me, I even made my own glucose, meds/food chart which my dr now gives to all

her diabetic patients.

I keep it for a day at a time on each sheet and fax them every week to my dr.

I also manage my own meds and insulin.

Also , we've had many posts here and other dm lists, just because someone is

new and is seeing a CDE and/nutritionist doesn't mean they believe every

word they're told, so many times we get posts saying how can someone just say

do this and do this much and not see your bg's and food, no I still think if

someone's bg is still too high with only say 2 glucose tabs, they'll by

nature eat more.

then the ones that suddenly realize these " pro's " telling them to eat a

certain way and its actually raising bg not lowering it, but JMHO of course.

Sure there are newbies who need constant guidence, others do not. Some do

think on thier own, LOL :-)

to find out how much a glucose tab raises bg, test it. While fasting, test bg

then eat 1 tab, test bg every 15 min, til it peaks, when it starts to go

down, you'll have your rise, also you will be able to see how long it takes

to start working.

HTH

carol

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In a message dated 6/4/01 12:59:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

astrocarly@... writes:

<< I even made my own glucose, meds/food chart which my dr now gives to all

her diabetic patients. >>

I would love a copy of these! I have been looking all over for something to

use. Jan

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In a message dated 06/05/2001 10:06:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

petra2000@... writes:

> > << I even made my own glucose, meds/food chart

> > which my dr now gives to all

> > her diabetic patients. >>

> Perhaps you would want to post this to the list, or I

> think there is a way that it could go permanently into

> the group site.

> I'm really not sure how, but I think there is a way to

> put special items.

>

>

Ok, I'll try to put it on the yahoo site for this list

carol

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> << I even made my own glucose, meds/food chart

> which my dr now gives to all

> her diabetic patients. >>

Perhaps you would want to post this to the list, or I

think there is a way that it could go permanently into

the group site.

I'm really not sure how, but I think there is a way to

put special items.

Please forgive me. I'm very spaced out!

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> << I even made my own glucose, meds/food chart

> which my dr now gives to all

> her diabetic patients. >>

Perhaps you would want to post this to the list, or I

think there is a way that it could go permanently into

the group site.

I'm really not sure how, but I think there is a way to

put special items.

Please forgive me. I'm very spaced out!

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I would love a copy of this also. Thanks.

Winifred

Sheridan2036@...

<< I even made my own glucose, meds/food chart which my dr now gives to

all

her diabetic patients. >>

I would love a copy of these! I have been looking all over for something

to

use. Jan