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At 12:27 AM 8/26/1999 EDT, you wrote:

> I

>have been thinking about trying a different anti depressant (prozac,

>paxil) and seeing if they would help me just as much and possibly help me

>get rid of some of the weight.

I don't know what you should try, but that whole zoloft/paxil/serzone route

didn't work for me at all. I gained about 20 lbs too and started having

seizures on the serzone. That freaked me out pretty good, so now I'm flying

without a net and I've lost the weight again. No help at all sucks, but for

me, it's better than those kind of meds. Darlene said she's gonna offer me

some advice on natural stuff for anxiety, depression etc, but she hasn't

told me what yet. She seems to be kinda preoccupied with something lately :-)

btw - if you don't find a good alternative, don't feel bad if you need to

take the zoloft or whatever. You need to do whatever works. Your side

effects don't sound as bad as your symptoms (not to me anyway). But good

luck finding something more agreeable to you.

ronny

World ACM Association http://www.pressenter.com/~wacma

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Just wondering...did you stop the Zoloft right away or did you wein-off

of it over a period of many weeks? If you stopped it right away,

that-in-itself would cause bad side effects. I used to be on Paxil and

when i would forget one dose, i could tell...my mood, patience etc.

would be totally differnet. When i decided to go off Paxil, it took me

about 6 weeks to go off of it.

kim

kim-@... wrote:

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> Dear Group,

>

> I have a quick question about zoloft. I have been taking it (50mg)

a day

> for the last year and half. It has greatly reduced my migrains and

mood

> swings. However, I have gained about 20 lbs. I talked to one of my

doctors

> and asked him if I could stop taking it because of the weight gain

and told

> him that I heard about 5 HTP, a natural seratonin reuptake inhibitor.

He

> told me to give it a try. Well, that ended up being a mistake. I

haven't

> been able to sleep (3 hours was the most in a 24 hour period!!!) I

also

> noticed that when I startd taking the natural stuff, that was when I

started

> gettin the " swoooching " in my head periodically throughout the day.

(Like

> someone would turn on a water hose inside my brain and then turn it

off

> really quick). I also got muscle craps during the night. Well,

last night

> I was having a rough night, short temper, cry at something funny or

something

> sad etc... I told my husband that I couldn't stand the way I was

feeling and

> decided to take 100 mg of zoloft before I totally lost it. Today, I

felt

> great. No sounds in my head, no dizzy spells, had the best nights

sleep in

> two weeks. What i don't understand

> is how can zoloft be helping me feel this much better? I hate taking

meds

> and had really hoped that this natural stuff would work. Also, does

anyone

> know if ACM affects the chemical balances within our heads and if so,

after I

> have surgery, will my chemicals be more balanced so that maybe I

won't have

> to take zoloft. I have been thinking about trying a different anti

> depressant (prozac, paxil) and seeing if they would help me just as

much and

> possibly help me get rid of some of the weight. Any suggestions from

you all

> will be greatly appreciated. Love ya.

>

> in LV

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> At 12:27 AM 8/26/1999 EDT, you wrote:

>

> > I

> >have been thinking about trying a different anti depressant (prozac,

> >paxil) and seeing if they would help me just as much and possibly help me

> >get rid of some of the weight.

>

prozac is known to help with weight loss, paxil is a known weight gainer

and zoloft is in between and can go either way.

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Hi everybody,

After I started taking Prozac, my doctor said, " You've gained the Prozac 10, now

it's time to take it off. "

So it doesn't help with weight loss for everyone. It seems be known to

contribute to weight gain as well, probably just like Zoloft.

Philadelphia, PA

ACM1 45mm, small syrinx

Craniectomy, C1 laminectomy 1991

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I take 25 mg zoloft/day (can't hack 50 mg, turns me into a zombie) and it helps

with my headaches and nausea. I never had mood swings or panic attacks (which is

what zoloft is supposed to be really good for). <I've also gained almost 30 lbs

in 18 months due to all the meds + reduction in a very physically active

lifestyle>

I " think " the reason SSRI's help is because they keep serotonin available to

your nerves. Serotonin is an incredibly ubiquitous neurotransmitter which

affects almost every function of your body. Here's a link to a VERY long,

technical medical article on serotonin:

http://fairlite.com/ocd/articles/ser90.shtml

& here's some hi-lites for those who don't want to wade thru the whole thing:

" Of the chemical neurotransmitter substances, serotonin is perhaps the most

implicated in the etiology or treatment of various disorders, particularly

those of the central nervous system, including anxiety, depression,

obsessive-compulsive disorder, schizophrenia, stroke, obesity, pain,

hypertension, vascular disorders, migraine, and nausea. "

" It is

found in three main areas of the body: the intestinal wall (where it causes

increased gastrointestinal motility); blood vessels (where large vessels are

constricted); and the central nervous system (CNS).

The most widely studied effects have been those on the CNS. The functions of

serotonin are numerous and appear to involve control of appetite, sleep,

memory and learning, temperature regulation, mood, behavior (including

sexual and hallucinogenic behavior), cardiovascular function, muscle

contraction, endocrine regulation, and depression. Peripherally, serotonin

appears to play a major role in platelet homeostasis, motility of the GI

tract, and carcinoid tumor secretion. This represents quite a broad spectrum

of pharmacological and psychological effects, considering the fact that the

average human adult possesses only about 10 mg of 5-HT. Subsequent to his

discovery of serotonin, Page commented that no physiological substance known

possesses such diverse actions in the body as does 5-HT. "

Well, there's my 25 cents worth <grin>

June in CA

dx of POTS, dimwit neuro says mri's normal enuff, waiting for Dr. Batzdorf.

Cisi@... wrote:

> Dear Group,

>

> I have a quick question about zoloft. I have been taking it (50mg) a day

> for the last year and half. It has greatly reduced my migrains and mood

> swings. However, I have gained about 20 lbs. I talked to one of my doctors

> and asked him if I could stop taking it because of the weight gain and told

> him that I heard about 5 HTP, a natural seratonin reuptake inhibitor. He

> told me to give it a try. Well, that ended up being a mistake. I haven't

> been able to sleep (3 hours was the most in a 24 hour period!!!) I also

> noticed that when I startd taking the natural stuff, that was when I started

> gettin the " swoooching " in my head periodically throughout the day. (Like

> someone would turn on a water hose inside my brain and then turn it off

> really quick). I also got muscle craps during the night. Well, last night

> I was having a rough night, short temper, cry at something funny or something

> sad etc... I told my husband that I couldn't stand the way I was feeling and

> decided to take 100 mg of zoloft before I totally lost it. Today, I felt

> great. No sounds in my head, no dizzy spells, had the best nights sleep in

> two weeks. What i don't understand

> is how can zoloft be helping me feel this much better? I hate taking meds

> and had really hoped that this natural stuff would work. Also, does anyone

> know if ACM affects the chemical balances within our heads and if so, after I

> have surgery, will my chemicals be more balanced so that maybe I won't have

> to take zoloft. I have been thinking about trying a different anti

> depressant (prozac, paxil) and seeing if they would help me just as much and

> possibly help me get rid of some of the weight. Any suggestions from you all

> will be greatly appreciated. Love ya.

>

> in LV

>

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Hi ,

You were probably still full of the medicines when you started the 5HTP? And

are you taking other medicines? If so, that too could affect the 5HTP. And

remember herbs and supplements do not work like drugs, i.e. with a kick you

feel right off, but often it can take months before you notice the benefits.

At night I will sometimes take 5HTP with my Kava Kava, and it helps me

sleep. Sometimes just the Kava Kava is needed. Now my sister doesn't do well

with either, so it is a very individualized combo.

If the Zoloft is helping you so well, go slow with changing... Prozac gave

me the most terrible headaches as did Wellbutrin. And doing anything

abruptly can lessen the effectiveness...

Good luck,

Luella

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Hi ,

You were probably still full of the medicines when you started the 5HTP? And

are you taking other medicines? If so, that too could affect the 5HTP. And

remember herbs and supplements do not work like drugs, i.e. with a kick you

feel right off, but often it can take months before you notice the benefits.

At night I will sometimes take 5HTP with my Kava Kava, and it helps me

sleep. Sometimes just the Kava Kava is needed. Now my sister doesn't do well

with either, so it is a very individualized combo.

If the Zoloft is helping you so well, go slow with changing... Prozac gave

me the most terrible headaches as did Wellbutrin. And doing anything

abruptly can lessen the effectiveness...

Good luck,

Luella

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shron6-@... wrote:

Actually, any antidepressant can cause either weight loss or weight

gain; it's a very individualized process. Prozac has been used

specifically for help with weight loss, as that is its "usual"

tendency, but it still can have the opposite effect. A lot of people

diagnosed with FMS, who seem to now have a very high incidence of

Chiari (since the commonality was discovered) have completely opposite

reactions to many meds (me included). I guess the only way to really

know is to try the medication and see what happens!

Bummer, huh?? Good luck to all!! Blessings,

Sharon in Nashville

sharon-palmer@...

Recently dx'd with ACM

P.S. Go Titans!! *G*

original article:/group/chiari/?start=22774

> > At 12:27 AM 8/26/1999 EDT, you wrote:

> > > > > I

> > >have been thinking about trying a different anti depressant

(prozac,

> > >paxil) and seeing if they would help me just as much and possibly

help me

> > >get rid of some of the weight.

> > > > prozac is known to help with weight loss, paxil is a known weight

gainer

> and zoloft is in between and can go either way.

> -- > > > | /

> \(!!) Dak

> / /

> > List mom of HHchat,Filet,Clerc,Our-Ears,DeafWomen,

> 4paws,Crazee4Crochet hakelei...all at Onelist.com!

> ICQ-3404154

> AIM- crazeedak

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