Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Kim, I have had RA for three years now. I too was unable to open containers, squeeze out a wash cloth, cut my own meat, etc. The pain was awful and caused me to get depressed. I was first put on methotrexate, but that didn't help me much. I was then switched to Arava, which was wonderful as far as relieving the inflammation and pain. But it caused my white blood cell count to get too low, so I had to stop taking it. This was all a blessing, in my opinion, because then I was put on Enbrel. It has worked wonderfully well for me. It has even helped the fatigue. My fingers are nearly down to normal size, and I have very little pain. I can still tell that I have RA, because I wake up stiff in the morning, but it's almost as if I don't have it. I have noticed no adverse side effects. I am 64, by the way. I happen to have a wonderful rheumatologist who kept working at it until he got it right. He told me that there are very few people that nothing will help. People are different, so the same combination of meds will not help everyone. Your mother's rheumy should be willing to try different things until he finds something that works for her with a minimum of side effects. If your mother can get on a medication that reduces the inflammation and pain, she'll then be better able to exercise. I exercise on a stationary bike and find that that is relatively easy on the knees. Perhaps she could benefit from steroid shots in the knees. I had one when my knee was giving me fits, and it helped considerably. This was pre-Enbrel; my knees have been fine since I've been on that. Actually I started exercising before I got RA and was able to lose 30 pounds. Since I'm diabetic, I have to restrict carbs, anyway, but I restricted them even more and also watched portion size. The exercise is what did the trick, though, I believe. There is no reason for your mother to keep suffering unbearable pain if she hasn't exhausted all the possibilities. Tell her to keep pestering her rheumy until he does something to help her. Mine encourages me to pester him, but since I've been on Enbrel I don't have to pester him very much. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 hello my doc has just prescribed enbrel for me . i watched the video and it looks a little scary. having to mix it yourself. i don't know if to take it or not.got to have insurance approve it first then as my book said i should only have to pay $20 for it . but we'll see if that happens. Sue <marysue@...> wrote:Kim, I have had RA for three years now. I too was unable to open containers, squeeze out a wash cloth, cut my own meat, etc. The pain was awful and caused me to get depressed. I was first put on methotrexate, but that didn't help me much. I was then switched to Arava, which was wonderful as far as relieving the inflammation and pain. But it caused my white blood cell count to get too low, so I had to stop taking it. This was all a blessing, in my opinion, because then I was put on Enbrel. It has worked wonderfully well for me. It has even helped the fatigue. My fingers are nearly down to normal size, and I have very little pain. I can still tell that I have RA, because I wake up stiff in the morning, but it's almost as if I don't have it. I have noticed no adverse side effects. I am 64, by the way. I happen to have a wonderful rheumatologist who kept working at it until he got it right. He told me that there are very few people that nothing will help. People are different, so the same combination of meds will not help everyone. Your mother's rheumy should be willing to try different things until he finds something that works for her with a minimum of side effects. If your mother can get on a medication that reduces the inflammation and pain, she'll then be better able to exercise. I exercise on a stationary bike and find that that is relatively easy on the knees. Perhaps she could benefit from steroid shots in the knees. I had one when my knee was giving me fits, and it helped considerably. This was pre-Enbrel; my knees have been fine since I've been on that. Actually I started exercising before I got RA and was able to lose 30 pounds. Since I'm diabetic, I have to restrict carbs, anyway, but I restricted them even more and also watched portion size. The exercise is what did the trick, though, I believe. There is no reason for your mother to keep suffering unbearable pain if she hasn't exhausted all the possibilities. Tell her to keep pestering her rheumy until he does something to help her. Mine encourages me to pester him, but since I've been on Enbrel I don't have to pester him very much. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Mike, I hope the Enbrel works as well for you as it has for me. It was scary for me, also, thinking of having to mix it and then actually sticking a needle into my own body twice a week. But it is very easy to mix, and soon becomes no chore at all. The injections are much easier now because the needles are smaller and shorter than they used to be. It took about a month for my insurance to approve me for the Enbrel, but then I have an especially obstinate company, according to my rheumy, who has dealt with many companies. So don't worry if it takes a while. I was without medication during that month, but I did get through it, and Enbrel was worth the wait. Sue On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 12:17 AM, mike nelson wrote: > hello my doc has just prescribed enbrel for me . i watched the video > and it looks a little scary. having to mix it yourself. i don't know > if to take it or not.got to have insurance approve it first then as my > book said i should only have to pay $20 for it . but we'll see if that > happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 The Enbrel is not difficult to inject at all. I am a BIG chicken and I can do it with no problem. Once you actually do it, it becomes less overwhelming. I know exactly how you feel though, I felt the same way. I have been on it about 1-1/2 yrs.-have had no side effects-it doesn't help me much with the pain and swelling but it definitely helps with the fatigue. Also,Each person's reaction is different and I know there are people who it helps across the board soI would say to try it-it is definitely worth it! mike nelson <winchester19572004@...> wrote: hello my doc has just prescribed enbrel for me . i watched the video and it looks a little scary. having to mix it yourself. i don't know if to take it or not.got to have insurance approve it first then as my book said i should only have to pay $20 for it . but we'll see if that happens. Sue <marysue@...> wrote:Kim, I have had RA for three years now. I too was unable to open containers, squeeze out a wash cloth, cut my own meat, etc. The pain was awful and caused me to get depressed. I was first put on methotrexate, but that didn't help me much. I was then switched to Arava, which was wonderful as far as relieving the inflammation and pain. But it caused my white blood cell count to get too low, so I had to stop taking it. This was all a blessing, in my opinion, because then I was put on Enbrel. It has worked wonderfully well for me. It has even helped the fatigue. My fingers are nearly down to normal size, and I have very little pain. I can still tell that I have RA, because I wake up stiff in the morning, but it's almost as if I don't have it. I have noticed no adverse side effects. I am 64, by the way. I happen to have a wonderful rheumatologist who kept working at it until he got it right. He told me that there are very few people that nothing will help. People are different, so the same combination of meds will not help everyone. Your mother's rheumy should be willing to try different things until he finds something that works for her with a minimum of side effects. If your mother can get on a medication that reduces the inflammation and pain, she'll then be better able to exercise. I exercise on a stationary bike and find that that is relatively easy on the knees. Perhaps she could benefit from steroid shots in the knees. I had one when my knee was giving me fits, and it helped considerably. This was pre-Enbrel; my knees have been fine since I've been on that. Actually I started exercising before I got RA and was able to lose 30 pounds. Since I'm diabetic, I have to restrict carbs, anyway, but I restricted them even more and also watched portion size. The exercise is what did the trick, though, I believe. There is no reason for your mother to keep suffering unbearable pain if she hasn't exhausted all the possibilities. Tell her to keep pestering her rheumy until he does something to help her. Mine encourages me to pester him, but since I've been on Enbrel I don't have to pester him very much. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 thank goodness i have a dauther in-law who is a R.N. she said she would give me the first few shots. it seems like nothing is going to stop it. sense i've been to the doc. i've been worried and down . i fear a wheelchair is down the road. your friend mike Montemorra <neproper@...> wrote:The Enbrel is not difficult to inject at all. I am a BIG chicken and I can do it with no problem. Once you actually do it, it becomes less overwhelming. I know exactly how you feel though, I felt the same way. I have been on it about 1-1/2 yrs.-have had no side effects-it doesn't help me much with the pain and swelling but it definitely helps with the fatigue. Also,Each person's reaction is different and I know there are people who it helps across the board soI would say to try it-it is definitely worth it! mike nelson <winchester19572004@...> wrote: hello my doc has just prescribed enbrel for me . i watched the video and it looks a little scary. having to mix it yourself. i don't know if to take it or not.got to have insurance approve it first then as my book said i should only have to pay $20 for it . but we'll see if that happens. Sue <marysue@...> wrote:Kim, I have had RA for three years now. I too was unable to open containers, squeeze out a wash cloth, cut my own meat, etc. The pain was awful and caused me to get depressed. I was first put on methotrexate, but that didn't help me much. I was then switched to Arava, which was wonderful as far as relieving the inflammation and pain. But it caused my white blood cell count to get too low, so I had to stop taking it. This was all a blessing, in my opinion, because then I was put on Enbrel. It has worked wonderfully well for me. It has even helped the fatigue. My fingers are nearly down to normal size, and I have very little pain. I can still tell that I have RA, because I wake up stiff in the morning, but it's almost as if I don't have it. I have noticed no adverse side effects. I am 64, by the way. I happen to have a wonderful rheumatologist who kept working at it until he got it right. He told me that there are very few people that nothing will help. People are different, so the same combination of meds will not help everyone. Your mother's rheumy should be willing to try different things until he finds something that works for her with a minimum of side effects. If your mother can get on a medication that reduces the inflammation and pain, she'll then be better able to exercise. I exercise on a stationary bike and find that that is relatively easy on the knees. Perhaps she could benefit from steroid shots in the knees. I had one when my knee was giving me fits, and it helped considerably. This was pre-Enbrel; my knees have been fine since I've been on that. Actually I started exercising before I got RA and was able to lose 30 pounds. Since I'm diabetic, I have to restrict carbs, anyway, but I restricted them even more and also watched portion size. The exercise is what did the trick, though, I believe. There is no reason for your mother to keep suffering unbearable pain if she hasn't exhausted all the possibilities. Tell her to keep pestering her rheumy until he does something to help her. Mine encourages me to pester him, but since I've been on Enbrel I don't have to pester him very much. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 thanks you help to ease my worries . your friend mike Sue <marysue@...> wrote:Mike, I hope the Enbrel works as well for you as it has for me. It was scary for me, also, thinking of having to mix it and then actually sticking a needle into my own body twice a week. But it is very easy to mix, and soon becomes no chore at all. The injections are much easier now because the needles are smaller and shorter than they used to be. It took about a month for my insurance to approve me for the Enbrel, but then I have an especially obstinate company, according to my rheumy, who has dealt with many companies. So don't worry if it takes a while. I was without medication during that month, but I did get through it, and Enbrel was worth the wait. Sue On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 12:17 AM, mike nelson wrote: > hello my doc has just prescribed enbrel for me . i watched the video > and it looks a little scary. having to mix it yourself. i don't know > if to take it or not.got to have insurance approve it first then as my > book said i should only have to pay $20 for it . but we'll see if that > happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 thanks you help to ease my worries . your friend mike Sue <marysue@...> wrote:Mike, I hope the Enbrel works as well for you as it has for me. It was scary for me, also, thinking of having to mix it and then actually sticking a needle into my own body twice a week. But it is very easy to mix, and soon becomes no chore at all. The injections are much easier now because the needles are smaller and shorter than they used to be. It took about a month for my insurance to approve me for the Enbrel, but then I have an especially obstinate company, according to my rheumy, who has dealt with many companies. So don't worry if it takes a while. I was without medication during that month, but I did get through it, and Enbrel was worth the wait. Sue On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 12:17 AM, mike nelson wrote: > hello my doc has just prescribed enbrel for me . i watched the video > and it looks a little scary. having to mix it yourself. i don't know > if to take it or not.got to have insurance approve it first then as my > book said i should only have to pay $20 for it . but we'll see if that > happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Mike, That is great that your daughter in law will help. I went to my rheumy's office for two weeks 2 X a week to get my first few shots-the RN there gave me my first one and then watched me do it. It was so helpful and to have someone in the family will be even better. Believe me, once you start doing it, it will come easily. The new needles are very small and the new way of mixing is very easy. Good luck to you and let us know how you make out. mike nelson <winchester19572004@...> wrote: thank goodness i have a dauther in-law who is a R.N. she said she would give me the first few shots. it seems like nothing is going to stop it. sense i've been to the doc. i've been worried and down . i fear a wheelchair is down the road. your friend mike Montemorra <neproper@...> wrote:The Enbrel is not difficult to inject at all. I am a BIG chicken and I can do it with no problem. Once you actually do it, it becomes less overwhelming. I know exactly how you feel though, I felt the same way. I have been on it about 1-1/2 yrs.-have had no side effects-it doesn't help me much with the pain and swelling but it definitely helps with the fatigue. Also,Each person's reaction is different and I know there are people who it helps across the board soI would say to try it-it is definitely worth it! mike nelson <winchester19572004@...> wrote: hello my doc has just prescribed enbrel for me . i watched the video and it looks a little scary. having to mix it yourself. i don't know if to take it or not.got to have insurance approve it first then as my book said i should only have to pay $20 for it . but we'll see if that happens. Sue <marysue@...> wrote:Kim, I have had RA for three years now. I too was unable to open containers, squeeze out a wash cloth, cut my own meat, etc. The pain was awful and caused me to get depressed. I was first put on methotrexate, but that didn't help me much. I was then switched to Arava, which was wonderful as far as relieving the inflammation and pain. But it caused my white blood cell count to get too low, so I had to stop taking it. This was all a blessing, in my opinion, because then I was put on Enbrel. It has worked wonderfully well for me. It has even helped the fatigue. My fingers are nearly down to normal size, and I have very little pain. I can still tell that I have RA, because I wake up stiff in the morning, but it's almost as if I don't have it. I have noticed no adverse side effects. I am 64, by the way. I happen to have a wonderful rheumatologist who kept working at it until he got it right. He told me that there are very few people that nothing will help. People are different, so the same combination of meds will not help everyone. Your mother's rheumy should be willing to try different things until he finds something that works for her with a minimum of side effects. If your mother can get on a medication that reduces the inflammation and pain, she'll then be better able to exercise. I exercise on a stationary bike and find that that is relatively easy on the knees. Perhaps she could benefit from steroid shots in the knees. I had one when my knee was giving me fits, and it helped considerably. This was pre-Enbrel; my knees have been fine since I've been on that. Actually I started exercising before I got RA and was able to lose 30 pounds. Since I'm diabetic, I have to restrict carbs, anyway, but I restricted them even more and also watched portion size. The exercise is what did the trick, though, I believe. There is no reason for your mother to keep suffering unbearable pain if she hasn't exhausted all the possibilities. Tell her to keep pestering her rheumy until he does something to help her. Mine encourages me to pester him, but since I've been on Enbrel I don't have to pester him very much. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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