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& Margaret

The THC content in pot is much higher now than it was in *th*e 70's. The

intense high that you described sounds like a too much THC high. My doctor

prescribed me Marinol (because medicinal cannabis isn't available in my

state), which is pure, synthetic THC. When I take too much Marinol, I get

the exact same unpleasant high that you described.

Steve M in PA

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You know after I wrote what I did, I remember that I'd heard that. That might

well be it , thank you.:-)

(Although that still doesn't account for how come I didn't like it much in the

60s or 70s,either. ha.

But at least I liked it sometimes then. :-)

K.

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& Margaret

The THC content in pot is much higher now than it was in *th*e 70's. The

intense high that you described sounds like a too much THC high. My doctor

prescribed me Marinol (because medicinal cannabis isn't available in my

state), which is pure, synthetic THC. When I take too much Marinol, I get

the exact same unpleasant high that you described.

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Wow--FL law's are really archaic.....look at all of the States that have made

cannibus LEGAL for pain/health....

http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000881 

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& Margaret

The THC content in pot is much higher now than it was in *th*e 70's. The

intense high that you described sounds like a too much THC high. My doctor

prescribed me Marinol (because medicinal cannabis isn't available in my

state), which is pure, synthetic THC. When I take too much Marinol, I get

the exact same unpleasant high that you described.

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Since I'm in a state (NM) with some compassion I have to put my two cents in

with this reply. Cannabis being " dusted " and things being added to it is a myth.

Cannabis is one of the oldest medicinal plants known to mankind and chances are

your grandparents or great-grandparents regularlly used it for their headaches.

I use it on the days that I would normally crank up the vicodin and I am better

for it. What you need to understand is that there are numerous different strains

of it that do different things. I do not feel " high " or " dopey " when I use my

strain and chances are you just used a strain that was not meant for you. Just

smoking some " pot " that you get off the street and thinking that it is all bad

is the same as one just eating feed corn and thing that all corn is gross. Start

checking into the history and the available information and you will have an eye

opening surprise.

>

> Yeah Margaret, I'm the same way. I felt disconnected.

> I felt that way even 40 yrs ago most of the time with marijuana. I rarely

liked it.

>

> However one of the reasons it mightn't have affected you like that back in

late 70s, was that then, it was still (usually) not dusted with anything.

> So often now unless you grow it yourself there's stuff and worse stuff added

to it.

> Like we need chemicals added to everything right?

>

> Anyway,Margaret, I just wanted to say hello and let you know that I know that

feeling you described.

> And didn't like it at all either.

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, Thank you. I'm very well aware both that cannabis is a very old herb

that people probably used ages ago.

*And* that that are different strains types-g of course.Decades ago I had some

from columbia that was mild but strong too and no bad effects

I could go on but this isn't a marijuana forum. But I'm here to tell you

that yes some was and is dusted. In my day it was angel dust and now...I can

only tell you what I've heard. So won't bother.

I was born bred and lived in NYC until recently and there was everything

imaginable, brought from friends in Columbia, Mexico Puerto Rico and arabic

countries.

I didn't mind hasish at all, for some reason.

That was opiated on occasion. (not so bad)

I'm sincerely happy for you that cannabis works well for you *and* that you're

in the more sympathetic state of NM.

I'm well aware that medicinal cannabis has all manner of differennt strengths,

and qualities.

I'm not being sarcastic; I'm very glad for you. I wish I could tolerate it, but

I don't like it and never did.

Many others my age loved it ands till do..that's *them*

Please try not to tell others what their experience was when yours is completely

different. Maybe you don't know all there is to know either?

I'm honestly glad modern medicine has finally come round for people liike you.

But my experiences were years ago between 68-76 and it was all of the not-legal

medicinal vendors.

Shouldn't matter, no, as there were different types then too, I know.

But it never helped my headaches, and later on didnt help w/ my muscle pain.

Once I felt less nauseated after trying a little, true.

Btw? My grandparents were unlikely to have smoked it, they were in Ireland until

1922 and didnt spend much time with jazz musicians when they got here..

My *father* smoked it in WW2-guess what he said?he said he felt all afraid

others didnt want to really be with him( " paranoia " ?)and felt strange.

Hee! Guess it runs in the family.

Thanks for sharing with us though.

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I'm just saying that if you are in a state where it is legal and it is sold in

dispensaries that you do not have to worry about the same thing that occoured to

you 30 years ago. There are strains that affect only the pain recepters and that

won't give you that lazy or munchie feeling.

ps - Untold thousands have died from bad alochol but not a single case from bad

MJ.

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> I agree with Margie, . Back in the '70's, I got high with my best buddy,

and it was ALSO laced with PCP. I'll never forget that night! I saw 7 moons!! It

was sur-real, like being in a slow-motion movie, and I felt like we were moving

frame by frame. While I never would want that experience again, we all did

things in our youth, and today we just shake our heads. I have fibro, and do not

want any pot for my pain. It just gives you the munchies, and makes you lazy. I

know, I was a stoner from way back when. Please, remember everyone doesn't need

a joint to feel good. Just my two cents worth.

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> Things are different in the areas where pot isn't legal. It was a long time

ago, but I once smoked with about 6 or 7 friends some dope that was laced with

PCP and it was a terrible experience for all of us. Pot is laced with other

stuff sometimes to make it seem stronger in places where it is illegal. They

did the same thing to alcohol during prohibition and people sometimes died from

the stuff. Such things are common with lots of illegal drugs. You gotta know

your dealer lol.

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One last thought, . I don't think it is fair that alcohol is so widely

accepted, while pot isn't. The gov't. isn't making any money off of pot yet, are

they?? I have never known anyone to act destructively, while high on pot. They

are much more relaxed...Alcohol, I agree, does cost thousands of lives, both

from drunken drivers, and alcoholics. Funny how widely accepted alcohol is, when

you think about how destructive it can be. When I tell people I don't drink,

they immediately ask me how long I've been sober!! I never had a drinking

problem! I've bartended, and cocktail waitressed, and either way, it's the same

people week after week,  playing their stupid game, getting into fights. I just

don't see the sense in having drinks, and then having to drive home. I was hit

by a drunken driver at the age of 24, and put on life-support. Ever since, I

have zero tolerance for drunken drivers, because it is almost always the people

they hit that get hurt or

killed, not the drunken driver.

As far as pot goes, I did smoke quite a bit, We had thai-sticks, dipped in

Opium, mushrooms, some crazy stuff. Never once were we ever violent, though. If

there is a strain of pot that does notinduce the munchies, I'd have to agree

that maybe before bed, it'd be nice to relax. I will admit, the late '60's and

'70's were some years that can never be duplicated, from the rock and roll, to

the great people and times.

Thanks for letting me say my piece. Good luck!

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I'm just saying that if you are in a state where it is legal and it is sold in

dispensaries that you do not have to worry about the same thing that occoured to

you 30 years ago. There are strains that affect only the pain recepters and that

won't give you that lazy or munchie feeling.

ps - Untold thousands have died from bad alochol but not a single case from bad

MJ.rrible experience for all of us. Pot is laced with other stuff sometimes to

make it seem stronger in places where it is illegal. They did the same thing to

alcohol during prohibition and people sometimes died from the stuff. Such

things are common with lots of illegal drugs. You gotta know your dealer lol.

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I understand that.

And of course I'm aware that alcohol poisoning and alcohol related deaths due to

accidents or violence, are common-and not so with marijuana.

But,the truth is, A its not legal here, and B. I've had no opportunity to ever

be prescribed mj for pain, so have no idea what any medical marijuana might be

like.

I'm certainly not trying to warn anyone away from it...I think it should be

legalized, period, for medical purposes or not.

However, maybe you can't understand that I don't *like* it.

I've had mj that was dusted, yes, but that doesn't even count.

But I never liked undusted pure clean herb much either.

And it never helped any headaches or pain I had. (Although other people told me

it worked well for *them*.)

Now if it was legal here and I was assured what I'd get would be just great for

dulling my my pain, sure, I'd be willing try it again.

It's just not something I'm going to wait to happen- especially not *here* where

I live now..

:-p

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Re: CANNIBUS FOR FIBRO PAIN...

I'm just saying that if you are in a state where it is legal and it is sold in

dispensaries that you do not have to worry about the same thing that occoured to

you 30 years ago. There are strains that affect only the pain recepters and that

won't give you that lazy or munchie feeling.

ps - Untold thousands have died from bad alochol but not a single case from bad

MJ.

>

> I agree with Margie, . Back in the '70's, I got high with my best buddy,

and it was ALSO laced with PCP. I'll never forget that night! I saw 7 moons!! It

was sur-real, like being in a slow-motion movie, and I felt like we were moving

frame by frame. While I never would want that experience again, we all did

things in our youth, and today we just shake our heads. I have fibro, and do not

want any pot for my pain. It just gives you the munchies, and makes you lazy. I

know, I was a stoner from way back when. Please, remember everyone doesn't need

a joint to fee

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Most dispensaries carry more than one strain. Usually the employees

can recommend which strains are best for which conditions.

While in my wild youth I smoked marijuana. I must just have weird

reactions I never got the munchies and it made me hyper.

Any questions ask, I'm not shy. Take care of you, you're important to me.

Big gentle huggles,

Di (Dimntd) in Feasterville-Trevose, PA, USA :o)

Be the person your pets think you are.

If there is a strain of pot that does notinduce the munchies,

I'd like to know the answer to this--which kind do I get at the

dispensary in San Fran?

Lynn

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Di

" While in my wild youth I smoked marijuana. I must just have weird

reactions I never got the munchies and it made me hyper. "

I had the same reaction! I, not so legally, smoked pot as a minor and

completely lost my appetite. Now, I take Marinol (pure, synthetic THC

suspended in sesame oil) and it actually causes " munchies " and makes me

zoned out. The effects of Marinol are much more " recreational " than the

effects of cannabis. That is why I cannot imagine why the government

PREFERS Marinol to cannabis.

Steve M in PA

Most dispensaries carry more than one strain. Usually the employees can

recommend which strains are best for which conditions*.*

While in my wild youth I smoked marijuana. I must just have weird reactions

I never got the munchies and it made me hyper.

Any questions ask, I'm not shy. Take care of you, you're important to me.

Big gentle huggles,

Di (Dimntd) in Feasterville-Trevose, PA, USA

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