Re: Hi Friends / Depression Question

[Guest guest]

my dearest friends i too get depressed but ive got you all and send out email

for you to read and i get alot of joy sending out prayers to you all and my

state of mind gets better ty all for being here for me god bless cindy

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,....I am sorry to hear that your not feeling well. I too

feel this way most of the time. Our lives change in such a drastic

way, and it is a tough road to travel.

I know that most people with RA does have depression, and they do

take a anti-depressant. I have been on Prozac for quite awhile, but

starting Wellbutrin today. I think I need a change, plus I have

heard some weight loss with it, so that's what I need,lol I am a

very depressed person, so I wouldn't won't to go of my med for it.

I also take Humira, I haven't heard of it causing weight gain

though. I know so many meds do cause weight gain, I hate that,

because I can look at food and gain weight, it seems.

Sometimes we tend to let things go in our lives, and thats OK,

there's nothing wrong with that. We have to to focus on taking care

of ourselves the best we know how. I am always fatigued, and in

pain. I have just come to terms, that I am not the same as before,

but will have to live with, and everyone around me included.

It's hard on family, but remember it's harder on you.

There are a lot of different anti-depressants, so if I was you I

would think about it. I hope you start to feeling better, and if I

can be of help, just let me know, take care Tawny

> Hi Dear Friends,

>

> I'm sorry I haven't checked in since before the holidays,

but I've

been VERY

> under the weather. Iris, if you read this I am so sorry I

haven't

returned

> your calls, or you Deb. I barely talk to anyone, including my mom

and Stan.

> I'll tell you why below.

>

> I was working SO hard on my business in Sept – Dec, came home

after the

> holiday with the flu, and haven't been the same since. I have

had

some low

> grade depression for quite a while now, but I was working through

it and

> actually having a good time traveling around and working 12 plus

hours a day

> (although at home and sometimes in bed with my laptop.) I felt

better than

> I had since I was diagnosed 2 years ago. After Christmas, I have

had to

> struggle just to list half as many items per week, and it's

getting

worse

> all the time. I don't want to leave the house, and I only do

the

whole

> " hair blowdry " thing twice a week, and I have to struggle

to do

even that.

> I procrastinate on even the most minute things. I read most of the

day,

> just to get through the day. My house is a mess, all I eat is

toast with a

> slice of cheese (for weeks!), and I'm endangering my marriage.

I

feel like

> it's med related, so I'm going to mention what meds I'm

talking,

and what

> has changed.

>

> * Now: Humira, started on 1/8

> * Now and Before: Mtx 17.5 equiv., inj

> * Before: Inderal 40 mg, stopped in Jan (for anxiety)

> * Both: Trazodone 25 mg in PM

> * Both: Sonata 10 mg for sleep

> * Now: Avinza 60 mg 1 x per day, Before: MSContin 45 mg 2 x

day

> * Before: Soma 3 x day Now: none

> * Armour thyroid ¾ grain daily, hormones

> * Folic acid

> * Sometimes: Phenergen for nausea, both

>

> As you can see, I'm working on lowering my meds, and I

can't help

but wonder

> if that is the culprit. I kind of feel like I am having anxiety,

but I'm

> not sure. I was only on a small dosage of Inderal, and it's

been

awhile. I

> 'm so desperate that I've made an appt with the doctor for

this

afternoon.

> I just don't know what I want him to do. In spite of being so

active, I

> gained TWENTY pounds in a matter of 2 months before Christmas, and

I really

> hadn't increased my food intake very much. Maybe I need my

thyroid

checked

> again? Could it be the lower dosage of the pain med? The thing

is, I've

> increased it just to see if it would make it better, and it

doesn't. Can

> the Humira cause depression? I really feel I got worse after I

started the

> Humira, but my joints are doing better on it so I hesitate to name

it the

> culprit.

>

> I really am scared to take an antidepressant other than the

Trazodone. I

> only take that little bit because it helped just enough to make

things

> tolerable. It certainly doesn't anymore. I do feel that the

Trazodone

> might be partially responsible for the weight gain, though, and

that makes

> me even more hesitant to increase the does.

>

> , a, anyone??? Could any of these meds be partially

responsible for

> my depression / anxiety? If I take an antidepressant, which is the

safest?

> I took Prozac for about 2 weeks (10 years ago) and it made me too

jumpy. I

> am thinking of asking the doctor if I can go back on 20 mg of

inderal, and

> maybe try St, 's Wort. I'll also ask for a

prescription for

something,

> just in case. Anyone who could give me any insight before my 1:30PM

> appointment, I'd REALLY appreciate it!!! Or even after, of

course!

>

> I know that depression can go hand in hand with RA, but I've

never

felt

> quite this sad and become SUCH a HERMIT. I'm so sorry that

I've

neglected

> my friendships, but I have read the email a couple of times. TESS,

I was

> particularly happy to read that you'll be getting the surgery

you've wanted.

> Congratulations!

>

> My love to all my RA Support friends,

> Carol

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

as you all are to me god bless you always hugs cindy

[Guest guest]

carol, i am so sorry to hear you are under the weather. sounds like you need

some companionship. i know how you feel with the meds. they don't make me feel

right either. i've been on buspar for years. but they always told me it was

for dizzyness. i hope you can find something to help you out. until then. just

do the best for you. kathy in il

[Guest guest]

Thanks, , for frequently offering your cheerful support here.

You're a very sweet soul and an important part of the group.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] Re: Hi Friends / Depression Question

> my dearest friends i too get depressed but ive got you all and send

out email

> for you to read and i get alot of joy sending out prayers to you all

and my

> state of mind gets better ty all for being here for me god bless

cindy

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm sorry to hear you get depressed, too. I think a lot of us with RA or

other autoimmune diseases get depressed. I read somewhere that 40% of

people with RA suffer from depression. I don't wonder why, though!

It is good to have such wonderful friends to come and share with and get

strength from.

Love and hugs,

Carol

Orlando

Re: [ ] Re: Hi Friends / Depression Question

my dearest friends i too get depressed but ive got you all and send out

email

for you to read and i get alot of joy sending out prayers to you all and my

state of mind gets better ty all for being here for me god bless cindy

[Guest guest]

Hi Tawny. I've been on Prozac for about 10 years, and it's worked well for me. I

was seriously depressed forever I think, and it has helped. Lately, though,

probably because of the fatigue with the RA, it has been harder to handle

things, and I was wondering if I should try something else too.

Noreen

[ ] Re: Hi Friends / Depression Question

Hi Carol,....I am sorry to hear that your not feeling well. I too

feel this way most of the time. Our lives change in such a drastic

way, and it is a tough road to travel.

I know that most people with RA does have depression, and they do

take a anti-depressant. I have been on Prozac for quite awhile, but

starting Wellbutrin today. I think I need a change, plus I have

heard some weight loss with it, so that's what I need,lol I am a

very depressed person, so I wouldn't won't to go of my med for it.

I also take Humira, I haven't heard of it causing weight gain

though. I know so many meds do cause weight gain, I hate that,

because I can look at food and gain weight, it seems.

Sometimes we tend to let things go in our lives, and thats OK,

there's nothing wrong with that. We have to to focus on taking care

of ourselves the best we know how. I am always fatigued, and in

pain. I have just come to terms, that I am not the same as before,

but will have to live with, and everyone around me included.

It's hard on family, but remember it's harder on you.

There are a lot of different anti-depressants, so if I was you I

would think about it. I hope you start to feeling better, and if I

can be of help, just let me know, take care Tawny

> Hi Dear Friends,

>

> I'm sorry I haven't checked in since before the holidays,

but I've

been VERY

> under the weather. Iris, if you read this I am so sorry I

haven't

returned

> your calls, or you Deb. I barely talk to anyone, including my mom

and Stan.

> I'll tell you why below.

>

> I was working SO hard on my business in Sept - Dec, came home

after the

> holiday with the flu, and haven't been the same since. I have

had

some low

> grade depression for quite a while now, but I was working through

it and

> actually having a good time traveling around and working 12 plus

hours a day

> (although at home and sometimes in bed with my laptop.) I felt

better than

> I had since I was diagnosed 2 years ago. After Christmas, I have

had to

> struggle just to list half as many items per week, and it's

getting

worse

> all the time. I don't want to leave the house, and I only do

the

whole

> " hair blowdry " thing twice a week, and I have to struggle

to do

even that.

> I procrastinate on even the most minute things. I read most of the

day,

> just to get through the day. My house is a mess, all I eat is

toast with a

> slice of cheese (for weeks!), and I'm endangering my marriage.

I

feel like

> it's med related, so I'm going to mention what meds I'm

talking,

and what

> has changed.

>

> * Now: Humira, started on 1/8

> * Now and Before: Mtx 17.5 equiv., inj

> * Before: Inderal 40 mg, stopped in Jan (for anxiety)

> * Both: Trazodone 25 mg in PM

> * Both: Sonata 10 mg for sleep

> * Now: Avinza 60 mg 1 x per day, Before: MSContin 45 mg 2 x

day

> * Before: Soma 3 x day Now: none

> * Armour thyroid ¾ grain daily, hormones

> * Folic acid

> * Sometimes: Phenergen for nausea, both

>

> As you can see, I'm working on lowering my meds, and I

can't help

but wonder

> if that is the culprit. I kind of feel like I am having anxiety,

but I'm

> not sure. I was only on a small dosage of Inderal, and it's

been

awhile. I

> 'm so desperate that I've made an appt with the doctor for

this

afternoon.

> I just don't know what I want him to do. In spite of being so

active, I

> gained TWENTY pounds in a matter of 2 months before Christmas, and

I really

> hadn't increased my food intake very much. Maybe I need my

thyroid

checked

> again? Could it be the lower dosage of the pain med? The thing

is, I've

> increased it just to see if it would make it better, and it

doesn't. Can

> the Humira cause depression? I really feel I got worse after I

started the

> Humira, but my joints are doing better on it so I hesitate to name

it the

> culprit.

>

> I really am scared to take an antidepressant other than the

Trazodone. I

> only take that little bit because it helped just enough to make

things

> tolerable. It certainly doesn't anymore. I do feel that the

Trazodone

> might be partially responsible for the weight gain, though, and

that makes

> me even more hesitant to increase the does.

>

> , a, anyone??? Could any of these meds be partially

responsible for

> my depression / anxiety? If I take an antidepressant, which is the

safest?

> I took Prozac for about 2 weeks (10 years ago) and it made me too

jumpy. I

> am thinking of asking the doctor if I can go back on 20 mg of

inderal, and

> maybe try St, 's Wort. I'll also ask for a

prescription for

something,

> just in case. Anyone who could give me any insight before my 1:30PM

> appointment, I'd REALLY appreciate it!!! Or even after, of

course!

>

> I know that depression can go hand in hand with RA, but I've

never

felt

> quite this sad and become SUCH a HERMIT. I'm so sorry that

I've

neglected

> my friendships, but I have read the email a couple of times. TESS,

I was

> particularly happy to read that you'll be getting the surgery

you've wanted.

> Congratulations!

>

> My love to all my RA Support friends,

> Carol

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Noreen,....You have been on it a long time. I know myself, after

I have been on a med for awhile, it doesn't seem to work as well. If

you are feeling like it's not working, you should talk to your

doctor. We have to do the best we can, and deal with this disease,

and it's hard to do it alone. There are so many different meds out

there now, so if I was you I would think about it. If you would like

to email me privately, would love to hear from you. hugs Tawny

> > Hi Dear Friends,

> >

> > I'm sorry I haven't checked in since before the holidays,

> but I've

> been VERY

> > under the weather. Iris, if you read this I am so sorry I

> haven't

> returned

> > your calls, or you Deb. I barely talk to anyone, including my

mom

> and Stan.

> > I'll tell you why below.

> >

> > I was working SO hard on my business in Sept - Dec, came home

> after the

> > holiday with the flu, and haven't been the same since. I have

> had

> some low

> > grade depression for quite a while now, but I was working

through

> it and

> > actually having a good time traveling around and working 12

plus

> hours a day

> > (although at home and sometimes in bed with my laptop.) I felt

> better than

> > I had since I was diagnosed 2 years ago. After Christmas, I

have

> had to

> > struggle just to list half as many items per week, and it's

> getting

> worse

> > all the time. I don't want to leave the house, and I only do

> the

> whole

> > " hair blowdry " thing twice a week, and I have to struggle

> to do

> even that.

> > I procrastinate on even the most minute things. I read most of

the

> day,

> > just to get through the day. My house is a mess, all I eat is

> toast with a

> > slice of cheese (for weeks!), and I'm endangering my marriage.

> I

> feel like

> > it's med related, so I'm going to mention what meds I'm

> talking,

> and what

> > has changed.

> >

> > * Now: Humira, started on 1/8

> > * Now and Before: Mtx 17.5 equiv., inj

> > * Before: Inderal 40 mg, stopped in Jan (for anxiety)

> > * Both: Trazodone 25 mg in PM

> > * Both: Sonata 10 mg for sleep

> > * Now: Avinza 60 mg 1 x per day, Before: MSContin 45 mg

2 x

> day

> > * Before: Soma 3 x day Now: none

> > * Armour thyroid ¾ grain daily, hormones

> > * Folic acid

> > * Sometimes: Phenergen for nausea, both

> >

> > As you can see, I'm working on lowering my meds, and I

> can't help

> but wonder

> > if that is the culprit. I kind of feel like I am having

anxiety,

> but I'm

> > not sure. I was only on a small dosage of Inderal, and it's

> been

> awhile. I

> > 'm so desperate that I've made an appt with the doctor for

> this

> afternoon.

> > I just don't know what I want him to do. In spite of being so

> active, I

> > gained TWENTY pounds in a matter of 2 months before Christmas,

and

> I really

> > hadn't increased my food intake very much. Maybe I need my

> thyroid

> checked

> > again? Could it be the lower dosage of the pain med? The

thing

> is, I've

> > increased it just to see if it would make it better, and it

> doesn't. Can

> > the Humira cause depression? I really feel I got worse after I

> started the

> > Humira, but my joints are doing better on it so I hesitate to

name

> it the

> > culprit.

> >

> > I really am scared to take an antidepressant other than the

> Trazodone. I

> > only take that little bit because it helped just enough to make

> things

> > tolerable. It certainly doesn't anymore. I do feel that the

> Trazodone

> > might be partially responsible for the weight gain, though, and

> that makes

> > me even more hesitant to increase the does.

> >

> > , a, anyone??? Could any of these meds be partially

> responsible for

> > my depression / anxiety? If I take an antidepressant, which is

the

> safest?

> > I took Prozac for about 2 weeks (10 years ago) and it made me

too

> jumpy. I

> > am thinking of asking the doctor if I can go back on 20 mg of

> inderal, and

> > maybe try St, 's Wort. I'll also ask for a

> prescription for

> something,

> > just in case. Anyone who could give me any insight before my

1:30PM

> > appointment, I'd REALLY appreciate it!!! Or even after, of

> course!

> >

> > I know that depression can go hand in hand with RA, but I've

> never

> felt

> > quite this sad and become SUCH a HERMIT. I'm so sorry that

> I've

> neglected

> > my friendships, but I have read the email a couple of times.

TESS,

> I was

> > particularly happy to read that you'll be getting the surgery

> you've wanted.

> > Congratulations!

> >

> > My love to all my RA Support friends,

> > Carol

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> Hi Dear Friends,

>

> I'm sorry I haven't checked in since before the holidays, but I've

been VERY

> under the weather. Iris, if you read this I am so sorry I haven't

returned

> your calls, or you Deb. I barely talk to anyone, including my mom

and Stan.

> I'll tell you why below.

>

> I have had some low

> grade depression for quite a while now, but I was working through

it > I feel like

> it's med related, >

> *

> * Before: Inderal 40 mg, stopped in Jan (for anxiety)

> *

Carol, I hope you didn't abruptly stop the anxiety medication as it

should never be stopped cold turkey. With all anxiety and anti-

depressants, you should be weaned off slowly.

If you just stopped, that could very well be what is giving you the

depression and anxiety now. Sometimes it even comes back worse than

it was originally.

I hope you told your doctor today if you stopped it yourself.

Arianne

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

You're another friend who I've thought of often over the past months. How

have you been doing? Are you working? Did you ever get your back pay?

It's such a trade-off. Take meds, feel weird. Don't take meds . even

worse. I'm starting on an antidepressant tonight, and it's supposed to work

faster than any of the others. I hope so!

Love you,

Carol

Re: [ ] Hi Friends / Depression Question

carol, i am so sorry to hear you are under the weather. sounds like you need

some companionship. i know how you feel with the meds. they don't make me

feel

right either. i've been on buspar for years. but they always told me it was

for dizzyness. i hope you can find something to help you out. until then.

just

do the best for you. kathy in il

[Guest guest]

hey carol, yes i finally got all my pay from dr tisa. i have just done my

taxes yesrterday without w-2's from him. he is trying to sell his practice and

in

the office about 2 days a week. i hear he is staying clean. i am still at the

chiropractors, working in the insurance office. free chiro treatments (a

really good thing now since my hip decided to get pulled out of place) i have

only

had one cold in the past year, it is such a nice change from the other

meds!!!! i still see my friend rob about 2 times a week, my son is still with

his

fiance and not working since october. i had one of his friends here over the

weekend that had no where to go. i wasnt really ready for a roommate. especially

one with no money!! i am having a lingerie party at the end of the month, that

should be fun!!! won a $50 gift certificate from a restaurant almost 40 miles

away. i'm gonna call the place and see if i can trade it for one closer. hang

in there sweetie. sometimes it helps to joutnal when your down. it helped for

me. i got so tired of writing the same crap over and over. i finally wrote a

4 page letter to my rheumi, that made her cry. tried a couple new meds.

injectable mtx and avandia for blood sugars. and i have been pretty good for 1

1/4

years. i also went to a counselor for awhile too. he usually slept during out

sessions!!! anywat sweetie, have a good one and be good to you!! wish i was

closer. kathy in il