Re: Re: breastfeeding moms

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Hi Theresa,

I did some research on this when I had my son a year ago and there is indeed

evidence that spicy foods can add a bit of spice to breastmilk, and my sister

told me she saw a direct relationship between when she ate something gassy like

beans and when her baby had colic. However, eliminating onions, garlic, gassy

vegetables, black pepper and other spices from my own diet did not cure my son's

colic and my lactation consultant was of the opinion that Mom's diet has little

effect on the baby. As Karann mentioned, every baby is different.

As for hospital meals, I wouldn't go too crazy restricting the menu, especially

in light of the facts that Moms don't produce much breastmilk in the first 2-3

days after birth anyway, and if a baby has colic it doesn't usually begin until

they are several weeks old... so the few meals a Mom has in the hospital will

probably not have any effect on the baby. Also, keep in mind that people of

some cultures find food too bland and even inedible if they can't add spice like

black pepper to it. And lastly, I don't know about everyone else, but after

going through days of labor and not being allowed to eat or drink throughout, I

was HUNGRY and wanted to eat as soon as I gave birth. Having someone cross off

my choice on a selective menu would really annoy me.

I would just give the moms education material as Karann said and let them make

their own decisions about what and what not to eat.

Amer, MS, RD, CDN

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Re: Cloned meat

>

> Jen,

> Disturbed is an understatement!

> This is enough reason (for me) to adopt a vegetarian

> diet once again!

> It makes me angry that the government can determine

> (TWEAK) our food supply and then not allow the

> individual to make a conscious choice on what he/she

> decides to eat!

>

> Dani N Little, MS, RD, CD

> University of Washington Medical Center

> Seattle, WA.

>

> --- Jen Zingaro <jzingarocnydc (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> > Okay, so the FDA says that cloned meat is safe.

> > I heard on the today show that this cloned meat

> > doesn't need to be

> > labeled.

> >

> > I could have sworn that I had heard some time ago

> > that it needed to be

> > labeled.

> > This is troubling to me. Anyone else disturbed?

> >

> >

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Thanks and Karann. I am so with you - I just have to explore why the nurse

feels so adamant about having us cross off those items! She is now pushing it

and saying she now wants us to avoid serving any spicy foods. Having your

feedback really helps. I have been searching numerous websites tonight and can't

find much. I will ask her for the evidence and see what she comes up with!

Thanks so much,

Theresa

Re: Cloned meat

>

> Jen,

> Disturbed is an understatement!

> This is enough reason (for me) to adopt a vegetarian

> diet once again!

> It makes me angry that the government can determine

> (TWEAK) our food supply and then not allow the

> individual to make a conscious choice on what he/she

> decides to eat!

>

> Dani N Little, MS, RD, CD

> University of Washington Medical Center

> Seattle, WA.

>

> --- Jen Zingaro <jzingarocnydc (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> > Okay, so the FDA says that cloned meat is safe.

> > I heard on the today show that this cloned meat

> > doesn't need to be

> > labeled.

> >

> > I could have sworn that I had heard some time ago

> > that it needed to be

> > labeled.

> > This is troubling to me. Anyone else disturbed?

> >

> >

> > Jen Zingaro RD

> > CNY Dialysis Center

> > 910 Erie Blvd.

> > Syracuse, NY 13210

> > (315)410-8040

> >

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[Guest guest]

Speaking from my own experience of long term breastfeeding (>2 years) for both

of my children, neither of my children seemed to be bothered at all by spicy or

gassy foods.  But my second child would spit up what seemed like all of her

milk after nursing and, after eliminating a variety of things without it

helping, I finally discovered that it was dairy products that seemed to cause

this.  I eliminated all milk, yogurt, ice cream, cheese, etc. from my diet and

she never had any trouble after that.  Even when she was a little older like 7

or 8 months, if I had a piece of cheese on my sandwich it would affect her. 

When she began drinking cow's milk after age 1 and was still breastfeeding a

little, she seemed to do fine with dairy.  She is 16 now and dairy is no

problem.  So, yeah, I agree with everyone who responded--you can't say that for

everyone certain foods will cause problems with breastfeeding.

, MS, RD, LDN

Re: Re: breastfeeding moms

Hi Theresa,

I did some research on this when I had my son a year ago and there is indeed

evidence that spicy foods can add a bit of spice to breastmilk, and my sister

told me she saw a direct relationship between when she ate something gassy like

beans and when her baby had colic. However, eliminating onions, garlic, gassy

vegetables, black pepper and other spices from my own diet did not cure my son's

colic and my lactation consultant was of the opinion that Mom's diet has little

effect on the baby. As Karann mentioned, every baby is different.

As for hospital meals, I wouldn't go too crazy restricting the menu, especially

in light of the facts that Moms don't produce much breastmilk in the first 2-3

days after birth anyway, and if a baby has colic it doesn't usually begin until

they are several weeks old... so the few meals a Mom has in the hospital will

probably not have any effect on the baby. Also, keep in mind that people of

some cultures find food too bland and even inedible if they can't add spice like

black pepper to it. And lastly, I don't know about everyone else, but after

going through days of labor and not being allowed to eat or drink throughout, I

was HUNGRY and wanted to eat as soon as I gave birth. Having someone cross off

my choice on a selective menu would really annoy me.

I would just give the moms education material as Karann said and let them make

their own decisions about what and what not to eat.

Amer, MS, RD, CDN

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Re: Cloned meat

>

> Jen,

> Disturbed is an understatement!

> This is enough reason (for me) to adopt a vegetarian

> diet once again!

> It makes me angry that the government can determine

> (TWEAK) our food supply and then not allow the

> individual to make a conscious choice on what he/she

> decides to eat!

>

> Dani N Little, MS, RD, CD

> University of Washington Medical Center

> Seattle, WA.

>

> --- Jen Zingaro <jzingarocnydc (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> > Okay, so the FDA says that cloned meat is safe.

> > I heard on the today show that this cloned meat

> > doesn't need to be

> > labeled.

> >

> > I could have sworn that I had heard some time ago

> > that it needed to be

> > labeled.

> > This is troubling to me. Anyone else disturbed?

> >

> >

> > Jen Zingaro RD

> > CNY Dialysis Center

> > 910 Erie Blvd.

> > Syracuse, NY 13210

> > (315)410-8040

> >

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[Guest guest]

Is there a lactation consultant (preferably an IBCLC) at your facility? What

about in your area? You can look them up at:

http://www.ilca.org/falc.html. They

should be more up to date with research in that area.

There also is another listserv called Lactnet that is very informative and

is mainly made up of IBCLCs. I have learned a lot from them and there are

some RD's on there too.

Now for my experience, my kids got gassy (not colic) with certain foods, and

my third child presented the gassy symptoms her second night in the hospital

after a friend brought me a big homecooked meal with onions, broccoli, bell

peppers and beans. I think it is more important for a mother to be aware

that these foods could trigger gassiness, so that if the kids are gassy they

don't conclude there is something " wrong " with their milk. But there is not

much of a point in eliminating those at the hospital, since it appears there

is a wide variation.

-Renata

> Thanks and Karann. I am so with you - I just have to explore why

> the nurse feels so adamant about having us cross off those items! She is now

> pushing it and saying she now wants us to avoid serving any spicy foods.

> Having your feedback really helps. I have been searching numerous websites

> tonight and can't find much. I will ask her for the evidence and see what

> she comes up with! Thanks so much,

> Theresa

>

> Re: Cloned meat

> >

> > Jen,

> > Disturbed is an understatement!

> > This is enough reason (for me) to adopt a vegetarian

> > diet once again!

> > It makes me angry that the government can determine

> > (TWEAK) our food supply and then not allow the

> > individual to make a conscious choice on what he/she

> > decides to eat!

> >

> > Dani N Little, MS, RD, CD

> > University of Washington Medical Center

> > Seattle, WA.

> >

> > --- Jen Zingaro <jzingarocnydc (DOT) com> wrote:

> >

> > > Okay, so the FDA says that cloned meat is safe.

> > > I heard on the today show that this cloned meat

> > > doesn't need to be

> > > labeled.

> > >

> > > I could have sworn that I had heard some time ago

> > > that it needed to be

> > > labeled.

> > > This is troubling to me. Anyone else disturbed?

> > >

> > >

> > > Jen Zingaro RD

> > > CNY Dialysis Center

> > > 910 Erie Blvd.

> > > Syracuse, NY 13210

> > > (315)410-8040

> > >

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[Guest guest]

I understand from my daughters who breast fed that it's alomost guaranteed that

anything the mother eats will affect the nursing infant. It makes sense to me.

Digna

Re: Cloned meat

Jen,

Disturbed is an understatement!

This is enough reason (for me) to adopt a vegetarian

diet once again!

It makes me angry that the government can determine

(TWEAK) our food supply and then not allow the

individual to make a conscious choice on what he/she

decides to eat!

Dani N Little, MS, RD, CD

University of Washington Medical Center

Seattle, WA.

--- Jen Zingaro <jzingarocnydc (DOT) com> wrote:

> Okay, so the FDA says that cloned meat is safe.

> I heard on the today show that this cloned meat

> doesn't need to be

> labeled.

>

> I could have sworn that I had heard some time ago

> that it needed to be

> labeled.

> This is troubling to me. Anyone else disturbed?

>

>

> Jen Zingaro RD

> CNY Dialysis Center

> 910 Erie Blvd.

> Syracuse, NY 13210

> (315)410-8040

>

> **Confidentiality Notice**

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[Guest guest]

Another perspective....

I grew up on a dairy farm where the cows were somewhat " free-range " . You could

tell by the taste of the milk when they got into wild onions!!!

J Scheer wrote: I

disagree. I breastfed two babies, also. Based on nutrition texts at

the time, what the mother eats is completely digested before milk is

made. N Scheer, MSRDLD

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:45:40 -0800 " Digna Cassens "

writes:

> I understand from my daughters who breast fed that it's alomost

> guaranteed that anything the mother eats will affect the nursing

> infant. It makes sense to me.

>

> Digna

>

> Re: Cloned meat

>

> Jen,

> Disturbed is an understatement!

> This is enough reason (for me) to adopt a vegetarian

> diet once again!

> It makes me angry that the government can determine

> (TWEAK) our food supply and then not allow the

> individual to make a conscious choice on what he/she

> decides to eat!

>

> Dani N Little, MS, RD, CD

> University of Washington Medical Center

> Seattle, WA.

>

> --- Jen Zingaro <jzingarocnydc (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> > Okay, so the FDA says that cloned meat is safe.

> > I heard on the today show that this cloned meat

> > doesn't need to be

> > labeled.

> >

> > I could have sworn that I had heard some time ago

> > that it needed to be

> > labeled.

> > This is troubling to me. Anyone else disturbed?

> >

> >

> > Jen Zingaro RD

> > CNY Dialysis Center

> > 910 Erie Blvd.

> > Syracuse, NY 13210

> > (315)410-8040

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Although the taste of the milk may be affected, the baby will get used to it,

but primarily we are talking after the first few days. Remember, it is

colostrum that is produced first, and often the baby is barely taking in

anything; they are just learning. It is very important to support the mom and

not make her nervous the first few days, before her milk really comes in, and

feeding is more challenging (my opinion based on experience).

It is likely that, if the baby is gassy from the first few days at breast,

he/she is swallowing air and probably has little to do with mom's diet. They

just aren't very good at feeding yet.

All the best,

Sharon Staier, MS, RD

Family and Sports Nutrition

Cape Cod, MA

Vicky Bean wrote: Another

perspective....

I grew up on a dairy farm where the cows were somewhat " free-range " . You could

tell by the taste of the milk when they got into wild onions!!!

J Scheer wrote: I

disagree. I breastfed two babies, also. Based on nutrition texts at

the time, what the mother eats is completely digested before milk is

made. N Scheer, MSRDLD

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:45:40 -0800 " Digna Cassens "

writes:

> I understand from my daughters who breast fed that it's alomost

> guaranteed that anything the mother eats will affect the nursing

> infant. It makes sense to me.

>

> Digna

>

> Re: Cloned meat

>

> Jen,

> Disturbed is an understatement!

> This is enough reason (for me) to adopt a vegetarian

> diet once again!

> It makes me angry that the government can determine

> (TWEAK) our food supply and then not allow the

> individual to make a conscious choice on what he/she

> decides to eat!

>

> Dani N Little, MS, RD, CD

> University of Washington Medical Center

> Seattle, WA.

>

> --- Jen Zingaro <jzingarocnydc (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> > Okay, so the FDA says that cloned meat is safe.

> > I heard on the today show that this cloned meat

> > doesn't need to be

> > labeled.

> >

> > I could have sworn that I had heard some time ago

> > that it needed to be

> > labeled.

> > This is troubling to me. Anyone else disturbed?

> >

> >

> > Jen Zingaro RD

> > CNY Dialysis Center

> > 910 Erie Blvd.

> > Syracuse, NY 13210

> > (315)410-8040

> >

> > **Confidentiality Notice**

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> >

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> >

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