RE: ferritin - iron supplements - blackstrap molasses

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Hi - does anyone know how effective blackstrap molasses are as an iron supplement?

I'm especially interested in this since it is a 'whole food' that probably has lots of trace elements that allow our body to utilize and absorb nutrients in a more balanced and effective fashion

C

To: rhythmicliving From: richkare@...Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:40:08 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Does Armour increase the need for estrogen? My blood work results

I have iron levels that are too high. Iron can get into your organs and wreak havoc. Be careful not to raise it too much!KAt 06:45 PM 2/21/2008, you wrote:

I have read that there are some that have had really good luck raising their iron using Geritol.GaleKathy <acaciamesquite> wrote:

Thanks Sam!

I just got my blood work results back from Health Check USA:

Ferritin, Serum 33 ng/ml (10-291)

Thyroid Peroxidase TPO AB <10 (range 1-34 IU/ML)

Antithyroglobulin AB <20 (range 0-40 IU/ML)

It looks like my thyroid antibodies are OK but my ferritin is still

too low. It came up from 28 the end of May 2007. I have taken so

much Iron that it is not funny. I took two 50 mg ferrous succinate

capsuls twice a day for months and then switched to two 50 mg tablets

once a day. I could not take more than four capsules a day because

any more gives me a stomach ache. It is really hard to even get four

caps in per day:

http://www.vitacost.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Ultimate-Iron

Does anyone have any ideas on what else to do to increase my ferritin?

Thanks,

Kathy

>

> Ok, I'll make this real short then. Thyroid issues can and do mess

up the

> entire body from bone and blood to tissue and tooth. You name it, it's

> messed up. Fix the thyroid issue and everything else repairs, and what

> doesn't can be supplemented later. In a nut shell, that's it.

>

> Ok, gotta go do work....

>

> Sam

>

> =====

> > Yes! I think you are right about the connective tissue thing.

> >

> > For at least the past year I have been having rotating aches and

> > pains. First my hip hurt for months, then my calf, then my shoulder

> > started hurting. One area stops hurting and then the ache goes to a

> > different area.

> >

> > My shoulder issue started when I changed my chair. I had an expensive

> > Herman chair. That chair gave me a neck ache because I did not

> > sit correctly at my desk. I replaced it last summer with a Hag Balans

> > Chair which is an angled stool with knee rests but no arm rests. The

> > Hag chair cleared up my neck problem but replaced it with a shoulder

> > problem because there are no arm rests. My old chair had arm rests

> > that supported my shoulder but my new chair does not which I think

> > lead to my shoulder problem. One of my shoulder books says to never

> > sit and type without supporting your arm--I used to do that exact

> > thing not realizing that I was putting too much strain on my shoulder

> > all day. I would like to find a chair that is good for my back and

> > neck but so far no luck.

> >

> > My hygienist thinks that some of my receding gums came from my braces

> > at age 29. I never really noticed anything until the dentist pointed

> > it out and said that "you are going to loose your teeth!" He also

> > said that I have bone loss in my mouth. I did not go to the dentist

> > for several years because we did not have dental insurance. I took my

> > kids but I did not go. One of the hygienists there has worse

> > recession than me though and I am fairly sure that she gets her teeth

> > cleaned on a regular basis. So maybe going would not have made a

> > difference especially with all my hormone issues.

> >

> > I have a mistrust of dentists. When I was a teenager my family had a

> > new dental plan with a large group. I went in for my visit and they

> > told me that I had eight cavities. That place just did not feel right

> > to me so I asked my mother to take me to the neighborhood dentist

> > instead. It turns out that I only had two very small cavities and not

> > eight. That first place was trying to ruin my mouth! I have read

> > many horror stories about unethical dentists and hygienists that like

> > to break through your enamel which will give you a cavity and give

> > them work. I do not know if that is true but I do know that I have

> > been to at least one unethical dentist. My current hygienist seems to

> > be OK, I just keep my fingers crossed when I go in there that they are

> > ethical.

> >

> > Sam, I would like to participate on more groups but I run out of time.

> > I have to fit my real work in my day and I have a hard time doing

> > that as it is. Right now I am trying to get my filing done so that I

> > can archive last year's stuff but instead I have spent 20 minutes

> > writing this email! :-) :-)

> >

> > Kathy

>

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Right . I agree - I have tried the organic blackstrap molasses, which seems to be less 'sugary' and more nutrient rich than anything else in this category. For me, a little bit of this a day seems to help - and I didnt look into it until I saw this was an ingredient listed in my naturopaths thyroid supplement. It's an interesting 'food'!

Christa

To: rhythmicliving From: aviano237@...Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:50:03 +0000Subject: Re: ferritin - iron supplements - blackstrap molasses

Blackstrap molasses are an old time remedy for "poor blood" in both people and animals..While I'm not sure of the actual iron content of the food itself..and it probably varies from brand to brand, I AM a believer..incidentally, also a believer in "whole food" type supplementation. However, if you have glucose control issues (and I do), you may want to look elsewhere..remember molasses comes from the initial boilings of sugar cane..very close to unprocessed sugar in its glycemic profile.> >> > Ok, I'll make this real short then. Thyroid issues can and do mess> up the> > entire body from bone and blood to tissue and tooth. You name it, it's> > messed up. Fix the thyroid issue and everything else repairs, and what> > doesn't can be supplemented later. In a nut shell, that's it.> > > > Ok, gotta go do work....> > > > Sam> > > > =====> > > Yes! I think you are right about the connective tissue thing.> > >> > > For at least the past year I have been having rotating aches and> > > pains. First my hip hurt for months, then my calf, then my shoulder> > > started hurting. One area stops hurting and then the ache goes to a> > > different area.> > >> > > My shoulder issue started when I changed my chair. I had an expensive> > > Herman chair. That chair gave me a neck ache because I did not> > > sit correctly at my desk. I replaced it last summer with a Hag Balans> > > Chair which is an angled stool with knee rests but no arm rests. The> > > Hag chair cleared up my neck problem but replaced it with a shoulder> > > problem because there are no arm rests. My old chair had arm rests> > > that supported my shoulder but my new chair does not which I think> > > lead to my shoulder problem. One of my shoulder books says to never> > > sit and type without supporting your arm--I used to do that exact> > > thing not realizing that I was putting too much strain on my shoulder> > > all day. I would like to find a chair that is good for my back and> > > neck but so far no luck.> > >> > > My hygienist thinks that some of my receding gums came from my braces> > > at age 29. I never really noticed anything until the dentist pointed> > > it out and said that "you are going to loose your teeth!" He also> > > said that I have bone loss in my mouth. I did not go to the dentist> > > for several years because we did not have dental insurance. I took my> > > kids but I did not go. One of the hygienists there has worse> > > recession than me though and I am fairly sure that she gets her teeth> > > cleaned on a regular basis. So maybe going would not have made a> > > difference especially with all my hormone issues.> > >> > > I have a mistrust of dentists. When I was a teenager my family had a> > > new dental plan with a large group. I went in for my visit and they> > > told me that I had eight cavities. That place just did not feel right> > > to me so I asked my mother to take me to the neighborhood dentist> > > instead. It turns out that I only had two very small cavities and not> > > eight. That first place was trying to ruin my mouth! I have read> > > many horror stories about unethical dentists and hygienists that like> > > to break through your enamel which will give you a cavity and give> > > them work. I do not know if that is true but I do know that I have> > > been to at least one unethical dentist. My current hygienist seems to> > > be OK, I just keep my fingers crossed when I go in there that they are> > > ethical.> > >> > > Sam, I would like to participate on more groups but I run out of time.> > > I have to fit my real work in my day and I have a hard time doing> > > that as it is. Right now I am trying to get my filing done so that I> > > can archive last year's stuff but instead I have spent 20 minutes> > > writing this email! :-) :-)> > >> > > Kathy> >> > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.> http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008> Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more.