Re: Methionine supplement (SAMe) equivalent tocelecoxib in OA

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In a message dated 02/05/2004 22:35:55 Central Standard Time,

Matsumura_Clan@... writes:

> Those pricey COX-2s are being overprescribed. I hope doctors and

> patients are paying attention to the developing side-effect profiles of

> those drugs. I'll stick with my ibuprofen.

>

>

>

>

Me too, ! I was on Celebrex for months. It's expensive, and didn't seem

to do a darned thing for me. I went back to ibuprofen-600mg when needed

every 4-6 hours. It works way better than Celebrex and is a heck of a lot

cheaper! Cary

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Yes, this study caught my attention, a. Sounds like SAMe is a

reasonable alternative to Vioxx. Have you tried glucosamine and

chondroitin sulfate?

Those pricey COX-2s are being overprescribed. I hope doctors and

patients are paying attention to the developing side-effect profiles of

those drugs. I'll stick with my ibuprofen.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] Methionine supplement (SAMe) equivalent

tocelecoxib in OA

,

Of all the supplements I¹ve taken, I¹ve never tried SAMe, but after

reading

this and many

other articles, I am definitely going to try it. I don¹t want to take

Vioxx

anymore after

reading one article to many, about the cardiac implications.

a

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Yes, it's cheap, equally effective, and we are very familiar with the

side effects of ibuprofen, Cary. I can't believe how many people I know

who are not in this group who are young, have no big medical problems,

no ulcers, no other meds and their physicians prescribe the COX-2s for

them for back pain or knee pain. Why?

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] Methionine supplement (SAMe) equivalent

tocelecoxib in OA

> In a message dated 02/05/2004 22:35:55 Central Standard Time,

> Matsumura_Clan@... writes:

>

>

> > Those pricey COX-2s are being overprescribed. I hope doctors and

> > patients are paying attention to the developing side-effect profiles

of

> > those drugs. I'll stick with my ibuprofen.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> Me too, ! I was on Celebrex for months. It's expensive, and

didn't seem

> to do a darned thing for me. I went back to ibuprofen-600mg when

needed

> every 4-6 hours. It works way better than Celebrex and is a heck of a

lot

> cheaper! Cary

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 02/05/2004 23:17:57 Central Standard Time,

Matsumura_Clan@... writes:

> Yes, it's cheap, equally effective, and we are very familiar with the

> side effects of ibuprofen, Cary. I can't believe how many people I know

> who are not in this group who are young, have no big medical problems,

> no ulcers, no other meds and their physicians prescribe the COX-2s for

> them for back pain or knee pain. Why?

>

Because docs generally know so little about meds. Do you know that an

associate's degree nurse gets more pharm training than an MD? So they are easy

pickin's for the pharm sales rep to tell them what to prescribe. Of course they

don't want their patient to get an ulcer! So obviously they need a 2

rather than Motrin! I honestly think most of them don't have the time or

inclination to really research into a lot of this stuff, unless it's their

specialty.

ugh...... Cary

[Guest guest]

How many docs did my nursing teacher make each of us take to task or educate

about meds? UG. LOTS

I know so far nothing has worked better for me than my generic ibuprofen. Yes,

I know the side effects, yes it is VERY affordable- and aside from everything

else- it has given me the best relief out of anything so far.

- In , Birdijo@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 02/05/2004 23:17:57 Central Standard Time,

> Matsumura_Clan@m... writes:

>

>

> > Yes, it's cheap, equally effective, and we are very familiar with the

> > side effects of ibuprofen, Cary. I can't believe how many people I know

> > who are not in this group who are young, have no big medical problems,

> > no ulcers, no other meds and their physicians prescribe the COX-2s for

> > them for back pain or knee pain. Why?

> >

>

> Because docs generally know so little about meds. Do you know that an

> associate's degree nurse gets more pharm training than an MD? So they are

easy

> pickin's for the pharm sales rep to tell them what to prescribe. Of course

they

> don't want their patient to get an ulcer! So obviously they need a 2

> rather than Motrin! I honestly think most of them don't have the time or

> inclination to really research into a lot of this stuff, unless it's their

specialty.

> ugh...... Cary

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Aleve gave me a bleeding ulcer, so I'm afraid to take that and similar

NSAID's. I take Bextra now. I took Celebrex for a while, but I think

Bextra helps me more. Sue

On Sunday, May 2, 2004, at 11:43 PM, Birdijo@... wrote:

> Me too, ! I was on Celebrex for months. It's expensive, and

> didn't seem

> to do a darned thing for me. I went back to ibuprofen-600mg when

> needed

> every 4-6 hours. It works way better than Celebrex and is a heck of a

> lot

> cheaper! Cary

[Guest guest]

Yes, I take glucosamine & chondroitin. I take Osteo-bioflex brand.

Did I tell you that the vet prescribed SAMe to my dog?

I¹m done taking COX 2¹s. Celebrex never did anything for me and Vioxx isn¹t

any better

than ibuprofen. It¹s scary how many people are on these drugs and all the

cardiac

Implications that are coming out.

a

> Yes, this study caught my attention, a. Sounds like SAMe is a

> reasonable alternative to Vioxx. Have you tried glucosamine and

> chondroitin sulfate?

>

> Those pricey COX-2s are being overprescribed. I hope doctors and

> patients are paying attention to the developing side-effect profiles of

> those drugs. I'll stick with my ibuprofen.

>

>

>

>

> I'll tell you where to go!

>

> Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

>

> s Hopkins Medicine

> http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

>

>

> Re: [ ] Methionine supplement (SAMe) equivalent

> tocelecoxib in OA

>

>

> ,

> Of all the supplements I¹ve taken, I¹ve never tried SAMe, but after

> reading

> this and many

> other articles, I am definitely going to try it. I don¹t want to take

> Vioxx

> anymore after

> reading one article to many, about the cardiac implications.

> a

>

>

[Guest guest]

Isn't it just Vioxx that is associated with the cardiac implications? I

wouldn't want to take that, but I do take Bextra. Glucosamine raises my

blood sugar, and since I have diabetes, that's not a good thing. Aleve

gave me a bleeding ulcer, so I'm afraid that the regular NSAIDs might,

also. What's a poor girl to do?

Sue

On Monday, May 3, 2004, at 11:06 PM, a wrote:

> Yes, I take glucosamine & chondroitin. I take Osteo-bioflex brand.

> Did I tell you that the vet prescribed SAMe to my dog?

> I’m done taking COX 2’s. Celebrex never did anything for me and Vioxx

> isn’t

> any better

> than ibuprofen. It’s scary how many people are on these drugs and

> all the

> cardiac

> Implications that are coming out.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 03/05/2004 22:38:49 Central Standard Time,

marysue@... writes:

> Aleve

> gave me a bleeding ulcer, so I'm afraid that the regular NSAIDs might,

> also. What's a poor girl to do?

>

Hi Sue

There are indications for taking 2's...it's just that it shouldn't be one

size fits all, you know? It may be great for you, but it seems some docs are

just prescribing it for anyone who needs an antiinflammatory. Cary