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Can anyone help?

I live in Glasgow in the United Kingdom. My dad was in hospital the last 3

weeks as he had an " infection " .

My dad has drank best part of 25 years, and has had cirrhosis a long time. Last

weekend the hospital said there was nothing they can do. We have brought him

home and we have a hospital bed in the house. The nurse comes out every morning

to dress his legs and we have carers come out 4 times a day. We know he has a

decompensated liver. His symptoms are as follows:

Jaundice

Ascites

Odema - his legs are that swollen that blisters form at the slightest pressure

and they burst, sometimes clear fluid, sometimes blood.

Sleepiness - sleeps most of the day

Urine - he has a catheter in and his urine is really dark and not a lot of it,

also he has high white blood cells and some red blood cells in his urine.

He is that weak that he cannot feed himself.

He also has korsakoff disease and was getting confused about 3-4 days ago but

has seemed ok since he has been home, although his speech is a bit muffled and

hard to understand.

Has anyone else looked after anyone like this? Me, my mum and sister aare

trying to get a realistic time of how long he has left like this.

If anyone has any information I would appreciate it. If not thanks for reading

:)

Lorraine

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Hi Lorraine,

My dad just pasted about a month ago from liver disease. Everything you are

saying is what my dad went through. Dad was bedridden the last month of his

live. His speach was slurred and he couldn't eat anything. He slept most of the

time too. His breathing became more labored. He had accites and a swollen belly.

At the end he he lost all the fluids and it was amazing to see how fast that

happened. All you can really do is keep him comfortable. Try and get him to at

least drink some fluids if he can. My dad couldn't even swallow at the end. I

just kept some wash clothes and water by his bed and wet the cloths and wipe his

lips. Let me know if you need anymore questions and I will try to answer as to

what I did for my dad.

Praying for you and your family

Betty in NC

>

> Can anyone help?

> I live in Glasgow in the United Kingdom. My dad was in hospital the last 3

weeks as he had an " infection " .

> My dad has drank best part of 25 years, and has had cirrhosis a long time.

Last weekend the hospital said there was nothing they can do. We have brought

him home and we have a hospital bed in the house. The nurse comes out every

morning to dress his legs and we have carers come out 4 times a day. We know he

has a decompensated liver. His symptoms are as follows:

> Jaundice

> Ascites

> Odema - his legs are that swollen that blisters form at the slightest pressure

and they burst, sometimes clear fluid, sometimes blood.

> Sleepiness - sleeps most of the day

> Urine - he has a catheter in and his urine is really dark and not a lot of it,

also he has high white blood cells and some red blood cells in his urine.

> He is that weak that he cannot feed himself.

> He also has korsakoff disease and was getting confused about 3-4 days ago but

has seemed ok since he has been home, although his speech is a bit muffled and

hard to understand.

> Has anyone else looked after anyone like this? Me, my mum and sister aare

trying to get a realistic time of how long he has left like this.

> If anyone has any information I would appreciate it. If not thanks for

reading :)

>

> Lorraine

>

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Hi lorraine...

How awful is this disease. My 43 year old brother suffers from this too, was

diagnosed last august. He has same symptoms as your dad, i therefore feel your

pain! Good news is, am in glasgow and more than happy to have a chat and share

my brothers experiences.. Let me know if you think this would help? Dylis

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> Let me say right from the beginning, my heart goes out to you and your family.

I am certainly not well versed on the subject, since I am the one facing it, not

a caregiver. I do believe the caregivers are unsung heroes though!!

>

> Away over here on the very west coast of Canada, we have a Hospice Society.

They are a group of wonderful human beings, that will walk us all the way

through the stages and right to the end. I have had a few appointments so that

everything can be in place when I do begin to get sick. I know that the society

will work with families, as well as the patient. If Glasgow has such a society,

I definitely recommend contacting them, even for a little counseling.

Unfortunately, there is absolutely no general timeline to the end.

>

> I would swear on a stack of bibles, that I was the sleepiest person you'd ever

meet, especially while I was on treatment for Hep C. Truly, I loved my bed,

staying in it and so does my dog and cat. I know longer have Hep C; but, I'm

afraid that it left my liver with the worst of it's following issues. Due to

the cirrhosis, I now have liver cancer! Although I have no problem with the

fact that this is terminal, I truly do not want to go through what your Dad is.

I just pray that he is not feeling any pain. My Spiritual Creator will have the

final word about any of it. But, that Creator has seen fit to give me 8 months

now, with no discomfort. I am extraordinary blessed!!

>

> The agreement that I have with my Dr, is that she will ensure that I have

enough drugs to be in la la land, during the worst. I can not understand anyone

in the health profession, that could or would stand by, while that patient

suffered, because they are concerned about addiction. Now, who cares if I get

addicted to morphine? A little too late at that point.

>

> Most of us here in North American, kindly refer to the mental deterioration as

hepatic encephalopathy. I really do think that's kinder than putting any

emphasis on the person's drinking. It really doesn't matter if one were

suffering because of alcohol or any of the other list of conditions that cause

this most horrible cancer. I try very hard not to think about the possibility

of going through all that your father is now. My parents are still alive and I

only had one child. It's too hard to picture what they feel and will for a long

time.

>

> I truly hope that your Dad's suffering will soon come to an end! For his sake

as well as the family.

>

> By the way, my maternal grandmother came from Glasgow, bless her little

ish attitude. My grandfather was from Northern England; but, they met and

married here in Canada. Then to round out my British heritage, my Dad and his

parents came from Wales. The only thing missing, was the Irish, although most

people believed my red hair was Irish. Not. I have to laugh somewhat. I

likely have more of British background than a lot of Brits do.

>

> Gloria

>

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> Can anyone help?

>

> I live in Glasgow in the United Kingdom. My dad was in hospital the last 3

weeks as he had an " infection " .

> My dad has drank best part of 25 years, and has had cirrhosis a long time.

Last weekend the hospital said there was nothing they can do. We have brought

him home and we have a hospital bed in the house. The nurse comes out every

morning to dress his legs and we have carers come out 4 times a day. We know he

has a decompensated liver. His symptoms are as follows:

> Jaundice

> Ascites

> Odema - his legs are that swollen that blisters form at the slightest pressure

and they burst, sometimes clear fluid, sometimes blood.

> Sleepiness - sleeps most of the day

> Urine - he has a catheter in and his urine is really dark and not a lot of it,

also he has high white blood cells and some red blood cells in his urine.

> He is that weak that he cannot feed himself.

> He also has korsakoff disease and was getting confused about 3-4 days ago but

has seemed ok since he has been home, although his speech is a bit muffled and

hard to understand.

> Has anyone else looked after anyone like this? Me, my mum and sister aare

trying to get a realistic time of how long he has left like this.

> If anyone has any information I would appreciate it. If not thanks for reading

:)

>

> Lorraine

>

>

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