Guest guest Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 My Mum (aged 72) has been part of a study into NAFL. In the past 17 months since my Dad died her condition has deteriorated rapidly and she had decompensated cirrhosis. Since last August she has struggled with ascites, requiring regular drains of around 12 litres every 2-3 weeks, varices and confusion. Her last two drains have been for less fluid, she had lost a weight, is sleeping for long periods and is very confused. The confusion is at the worst it has every been and she is beginning to look jaundiced. She was admitted into hospital on Thursday and I visited yesterday (I live over hundred miles away) and I was shocked to see how much she has deteriorated in the last week. None of the nursing staff would provide an update on her condition and there were no Drs available. I know there is no crystal ball to look into the future but all I wanted was a honest answer regarding the severity of my Mum's condition - I feel that I may have said my last goodbye. Is there anyone who has been through this dreadful experience willing to share their thoughts and experiences? Thank you x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 > > My Mum (aged 72) has been part of a study into NAFL. In the past 17 months since my Dad died her condition has deteriorated rapidly and she had decompensated cirrhosis. Since last August she has struggled with ascites, requiring regular drains of around 12 litres every 2-3 weeks, varices and confusion. Her last two drains have been for less fluid, she had lost a weight, is sleeping for long periods and is very confused. The confusion is at the worst it has every been and she is beginning to look jaundiced. She was admitted into hospital on Thursday and I visited yesterday (I live over hundred miles away) and I was shocked to see how much she has deteriorated in the last week. None of the nursing staff would provide an update on her condition and there were no Drs available. I know there is no crystal ball to look into the future but all I wanted was a honest answer regarding the severity of my Mum's condition - I feel that I may have said my last goodbye. Is there anyone who has been through this dreadful experience willing to share their thoughts and experiences? Thank you x > My husband has Decompensated Cirrhosis too. We go to the ER every 4-5 days to have fluids removed 4-10 liters, only once it was 4 liters as they ran out of bottles. He is in the process of getting all the tests done to see if he qualifies for a transplant. He was in the hospital for 2 weeks and ended up with only 5% of his only kidney working so is now on dialysis 3 times a week. He needs kidney & liver transplant. He has varcies and has had two endoscopies. Its very stressful as no one can say how long the liver will last. We travel 220 round trip to the VA but can have the fluids removed here locally. I guess I am surprised at how many people have cirrhosis and are on dialysis. 2 more people I know in the last week have been told they have cirrhosis and one is from a diabetic. I wasn't aware that could happen. I feel the pain you are going through. I'm thankful for this group even if its just to read what others post for as much information I can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I would suggest you call her doctor. Since you call her Mum, you must be in England, and I don't know what the privacy laws are there, but here they can't give out any information without the patient's permission. Usually, I am asked when admitted to the hospital who can receive information, and who can be allowed to be put through for phone calls. It isn't unusual for one parent to deteriorate after the death of the other parent. They have to adjust to a whole new life and that isn't easy to do. And they might not have the same incentive to fight off their medical problems. Jan > My Mum (aged 72) has been part of a study into NAFL. In the past 17 months since my Dad died her condition has deteriorated rapidly and she had decompensated cirrhosis. Since last August she has struggled with ascites, requiring regular drains of around 12 litres every 2-3 weeks, varices and confusion. Her last two drains have been for less fluid, she had lost a weight, is sleeping for long periods and is very confused. The confusion is at the worst it has every been and she is beginning to look jaundiced. She was admitted into hospital on Thursday and I visited yesterday (I live over hundred miles away) and I was shocked to see how much she has deteriorated in the last week. None of the nursing staff would provide an update on her condition and there were no Drs available. I know there is no crystal ball to look into the future but all I wanted was a honest answer regarding the severity of my Mum's condition - I feel that I may have said my last goodbye. Is there anyone who has been through this dreadful experience willing to share their thoughts and experiences? Thank you x > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Group Email: livercirrhosissupport > web address: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/livercirrhosissupport/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I can only tell you what I would like to have happen at your Mum's stage of cirrhosis. My cirrhosis caused the cancer tumors I now have, so I am walking the last journey. So, when it begins that I need a lot more care, I already have the Hospice Society notified. They would like me to stay at home until it's impossible anymore and I like that idea. But, in hospital, likely I wouldn't be able to get my Mom to go home and I doubt my son would either. But, I believe that when the confusion and sleeping are happening enough for me to be in the hospital, there is no sense having family sit at bedside waiting. Mind you, my parents only live a very short distance from the hospital and I know that my son would just go there for sleep. Since it's now been over 8 months since my diagnosis and decision not to do anymore procedures, I've had time to get things in order. I don't have many materials things left and only have the 1 child. So, it makes my will and power of attorney very easy. Yet there are times that I think I've forgotten something important. I am preparing to commit to paper any other thoughts that crop up. I would dearly love that the end goes very quickly. There will be no tubes, breathing apparatus or things like that. Just IV's for the pain. My Dr knows that all I will want is high doses of pain meds. I know that because I've known about what is to come for some time now, I am hopeful that there will not be any questions like you are having. I believe that everyone knows what the signs of the end are and the Hospice will be there as well. I'd like to be able to say goodbye to my loved ones, even if I would have a few more days left. If those last days are that pain medication has taken over, it's just about too late. I sure don't know if this will help!! Partly I am trying to say, it will be a lot kinder that your Mum goes very soon. That's just my opinion however. Gloria ________________________________  I would suggest you call her doctor. Since you call her Mum, you must be in England, and I don't know what the privacy laws are there, but here they can't give out any information without the patient's permission. Usually, I am asked when admitted to the hospital who can receive information, and who can be allowed to be put through for phone calls. It isn't unusual for one parent to deteriorate after the death of the other parent. They have to adjust to a whole new life and that isn't easy to do. And they might not have the same incentive to fight off their medical problems. Jan > My Mum (aged 72) has been part of a study into NAFL. In the past 17 months since my Dad died her condition has deteriorated rapidly and she had decompensated cirrhosis.  Since last August she has struggled with ascites, requiring regular drains of around 12 litres every 2-3 weeks, varices and confusion.  Her last two drains have been for less fluid, she had lost a weight, is sleeping for long periods and is very confused.  The confusion is at the worst it has every been and she is beginning to look jaundiced.  She was admitted into hospital on Thursday and I visited yesterday (I live over  hundred miles away) and I was shocked to see how much she has deteriorated in the last week.  None of the nursing staff would provide an update on her condition and there were no Drs available.  I know there is no crystal ball to look into the future but all I wanted was a honest answer regarding the severity of my Mum's condition - I feel that I may have said my last goodbye.  Is there anyone who has been through this dreadful experience willing to share their thoughts and experiences?  Thank you x > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Group Email:   livercirrhosissupport > web address: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/livercirrhosissupport/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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