Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 , As much as I would like to believe the diognosis of Lupus might be a misdiagnosis, there are several facts that stand. The ANA's although low had started showing positive before I began Enbrel, so I started injectables knowing that we were suspicious and that I would be immediately taken off the injections if my very conservative Rheumy determined it was Lupus. (Not only was my Rheumy suspicious of Lupus but also my Internist.) Add to that the disease history, family history, continued ANA's, and positives on a group of tests including Anti-DNA, Anti-RNP/SM/SSA/SSB, etc pretty much proved itself (I expect the positives on the DNA and SM was the clincher.) I know that this Rheumatologist would not give me a " positive diagnosis of Lupus " were he not certain. In fact, a less conservative doctor may have jumped to this conclusion much sooner and perhaps without allowing the proper criterion to play itself out and then the lab tests to back up the decision. We have been working toward ruling this diagnosis in or out for over a year....and one would think that you would be prepared for such a diagnosis given that much time, but I will share that this is the one diagnosis that really has rocked me. Additionally, some months back when I too believing that it was " rare " for one to have both RA and Lupus asked about it, I was told that although " unusual " it is not rare but does make the treatment more complex. And to make my treatment even more complex, one of the drugs of choice for Lupus I have already proven to have a true allergy to and a second one some nasty side effects......so much for making treatment simple!! Thank you for your suggestions and concern, without knowing my history they were very valid. Janie in OK Janie, there are a couple of important facts you should know before you conclude that you have lupus in addition to your RA. 1) In the absence of an overlap syndrome, the occurrence of RA and lupus in a single individual is rare. 2) ANA positivity is common in RA patients - easily 30% of RA patients are ANA positive. A diagnosis of lupus cannot be based on ANA positivity alone. Many non-lupus conditions and diseases are associated with ANA positivity. 3) Certain drugs, most notably in your case the TNF blockers (you were on Enbrel and you are now on Humira), cause what is known as " drug-induced lupus. " This is when labs and sometimes clinical signs and symptoms of lupus appear because of a certain medication. Most often, the labs return to normal and the symptoms disappear after the offending drug is discontinued. Serious clinical developments (like lupus kidney disease) are rare in drug-induced lupus. As you see from the article below, although many people on anti-TNF therapies develop antibodies associated with lupus, few develop clinical lupus. " Anti-TNF therapy represents a significant advance in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis. It has also become apparent that patients receiving either anti-TNF monoclonal antibodies or TNF receptor antagonists can develop serological evidence of autoimmunity (11). In one study, new ANA and anti-dsDNA antibodies were found in 33% and 9% of infliximab recipients, respectively. However, there is clear discordance between the development of autoantibodies and clinical autoimmunity, with less than 20 symptomatic patients reported in the literature and in abstract form. " Bulletin on the Rheumatic Diseases Volume 51 Number 4 Drug-induced Lupus (DIL) http://www.arthritis.org/research/bulletin/vol51no4/51_4_Drug-induced.asp Besides a positive ANA, what is leading your physician to say that you have lupus, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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