a, --Judi's surgery--important

June 24, 2004

Hi guys,

The surgery went well--hand feels pretty good, all things

considered. The doc. couldn't untrigger my finger before the

surgery, so guess he knew how bad it was! Ron is pretty upselt thouh

because (guess you can see how bad I tylpe left handed) I am badly

bruised on my right arm where they taped it down to a board and the

arm is all red from the tape despite me telling them that I'm

allergic to tape. /but the worst thing is I cant raise my head when

I'm lying down, or turn it side to side, and it hurts my chest to

breathe, clear down my back. I had surgery 4 times last year and

once this year already, and this only lasted a half hour where those

lasted 2-3 hours so I don't understnad what happened here. I'm

having trouble swallowing, but becuse my neck is sore, not my throat.

Hard to chew because my jaws hurt. They didn't say anythkng at the

hospital.

I have a call in to the doctor who should call in the next 2 hours,

but when Ron calledl the surgical ward they gave him some double

talk. I feel pretty good, but my hips are having muscle spasms too,

more than the usual. Any ideas?

Judi

June 24, 2004

Judi, I'm sorry. I'm not sure what to make of what's going on, but if

that doctor doesn't call within the time promised, I would go to the

hospital in person.

What sort of anesthesia did they use?

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] a, --Judi's surgery--important

> Hi guys,

>

> The surgery went well--hand feels pretty good, all things

> considered. The doc. couldn't untrigger my finger before the

> surgery, so guess he knew how bad it was! Ron is pretty upselt thouh

> because (guess you can see how bad I tylpe left handed) I am badly

> bruised on my right arm where they taped it down to a board and the

> arm is all red from the tape despite me telling them that I'm

> allergic to tape. /but the worst thing is I cant raise my head when

> I'm lying down, or turn it side to side, and it hurts my chest to

> breathe, clear down my back. I had surgery 4 times last year and

> once this year already, and this only lasted a half hour where those

> lasted 2-3 hours so I don't understnad what happened here. I'm

> having trouble swallowing, but becuse my neck is sore, not my throat.

> Hard to chew because my jaws hurt. They didn't say anythkng at the

> hospital.

>

> I have a call in to the doctor who should call in the next 2 hours,

> but when Ron calledl the surgical ward they gave him some double

> talk. I feel pretty good, but my hips are having muscle spasms too,

> more than the usual. Any ideas?

>

> Judi

June 24, 2004

Judi

I'm not or a, but it is all probably related to positioning during

surgery. Cary

June 24, 2004

In a message dated 24/06/2004 20:28:23 Central Standard Time,

Matsumura_Clan@... writes:

> Could you please explain in more detail, Nurse Cary?

>

Absolutely! During surgery, you are on a lovely hard table. The OR nurses

position you for the surgery according to what the docs want. The parts of

your body that the surgeon needs access to determine how you are positioned.

Most people are real stiff after surgery, and sometimes they actually have

bruising or muscle injury, depending on how weird the position is and for how

long.

They attempt to soften things with stuff reminiscent of yoga blocks and

rolls to position you but holding you with something soft. But I would imagine

that for folks like us with these musculoskeletal issues already, being in one

steady position for a 1/2 hour straight like Judi or however long could cause a

problem. Maybe muscle spasming like the neck problem she's having. Any hard

spot on your body, say a hip bone, in contact with that hard table is at risk

even for skin breakdown during a procedure! The positioning is a big deal

and is continually looked at for ways of preventing injury and skin breakdown,

esp. since JCAHO decided that a pressure ulcer is a sentinal event. So that's

all I know about surgical positioning! heehee Don't know if that's Judi's

problem, but it's possible. I just hope she feels better soon. Cary

June 24, 2004

Could you please explain in more detail, Nurse Cary?

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] a, --Judi's surgery--important

> Judi

>

> I'm not or a, but it is all probably related to positioning

during

> surgery. Cary

>

June 24, 2004

Thank you very much, Cary! That's exactly the kind of explanation I was

hoping for.

I didn't realize that an ulcer could happen that quickly and during the

procedure. I assumed it happened during recovery only.

I hope Judi feels better, too.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] a, --Judi's surgery--important

> In a message dated 24/06/2004 20:28:23 Central Standard Time,

> Matsumura_Clan@... writes:

>

> > Could you please explain in more detail, Nurse Cary?

> >

>

> Absolutely! During surgery, you are on a lovely hard table. The OR

nurses

> position you for the surgery according to what the docs want. The

parts of

> your body that the surgeon needs access to determine how you are

positioned.

> Most people are real stiff after surgery, and sometimes they actually

have

> bruising or muscle injury, depending on how weird the position is and

for how long.

> They attempt to soften things with stuff reminiscent of yoga blocks

and

> rolls to position you but holding you with something soft. But I

would imagine

> that for folks like us with these musculoskeletal issues already,

being in one

> steady position for a 1/2 hour straight like Judi or however long

could cause a

> problem. Maybe muscle spasming like the neck problem she's having.

Any hard

> spot on your body, say a hip bone, in contact with that hard table is

at risk

> even for skin breakdown during a procedure! The positioning is a big

deal

> and is continually looked at for ways of preventing injury and skin

breakdown,

> esp. since JCAHO decided that a pressure ulcer is a sentinal event.

So that's

> all I know about surgical positioning! heehee Don't know if that's

Judi's

> problem, but it's possible. I just hope she feels better soon. Cary

June 25, 2004

Judi,

I¹m really sorry that the surgery was so hard on you. I hope you¹ve made

some noise about the taping incident. Someone dropped the ball. I hope

the irritation goes away quickly.

I¹ve had many surgeries and have had problems with muscle pain after. I can

only describe it as feeling like someone beat me up. But with such a short

surgery, I wouldn¹t expect to have such pains. My thoughts are anesthesia.

I¹ve had neck pain after surgery and was told it was probably from the

anesthesia. Chest pains also could be from the anesthesia. I hope today

you¹re feeling better.

Did you talk to the doctor?

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