Re: [NEdpg] Am I overreacting??

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Well, at least it's a dietitian. And the more dietitians that are showing they

can be successful in private practice, the better the pay gets for hospital

dietitians. (the old supply/demand thing)..

Michal Hogan, RD, LD, CLT

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In a message dated 05/12/08 08:49:08 Eastern Daylight Time, LCollier@...

writes:

This morning, I picked up my mail before coming to my office and found

info on an employee health fair to be held here in the hospital today.

That's not the problem. As I read through the info, I saw that there

will be a registered dietitian there. No, not me. No, not our other

RD. I am a bit annoyed and feel like toes are being stepped on. Does

anyone else feel this is kind of odd? Am I over-reacting, or would you

be irritated too?

Collier, RD

Clinical Nutrition Manager

9507 Hospital Avenue

PO Box 17

Nassawadox, VA 23413

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I have to chime in as well, pretty much in agreement with and

Michal, but a slightly different slant that maybe will " ease your pain. "

" What if " the company putting together the health fair happened to know an

RD that does a lot of self promotion. Is an entrepreneur that has finally made

a name for themselves. Maybe they even " work " health fairs on a regular

basis, if it's sponsored by a " paying agency. " (I used to work for some

insurance/HMO companies about 12 years ago and was paid $300-500/day to work a

health

fair.)

Just maybe, that's the case here, and as Michal says, that other RD may be

" setting the bar higher " for all RDs. Healthy competition is a GOOD thing if

it forces us to be better at what we do!

So, I'd agree with too - just go to the organizer, introduce

yourself (they mustn't know you or you'd think they'd have invited you), and

suggest they consider your involvement with the next one. And, maybe figure

out

WHY they didn't involve you and the other RD in the first place.

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

In a message dated 5/12/2008 1:41:28 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

weaverrd@... writes:

Hi , I agree with Michal but the person at your hospital that

orginized the health fair should have included you in the planning. BTW, I

consult

for United Health and they hire me to do health fairs at hospital's or other

corporations that have United Health Insurance. It is usually set by by you HR

department with United Health Insurance. Do you think the your hospital's

insurance carrier is helping? Also, I would contact this RD and treat her

special. Act like you knew all the time and so glad she will be helping you.

Make

it a win-win for all the RDs. Hope this helps

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Well, at least it's a dietitian. And the more dietitians that are showing

they can be successful in private practice, the better the pay gets for

hospital dietitians. (the old supply/demand thing)..

Michal Hogan, RD, LD, CLT

NUTRITIONRESULTS.NUT

(866) 396-4438 local

Resources for patients, doctors and other dietitians to aid in the important

business of treating delayed-type hypersensitivities that cause painful and

chronic conditions like IBS, Crohn's, Ulcerative Colitis, Migraine, Chronic

non-seasonal sinusitis with pain/drainage, Autism Spectrum (with other

sensitivity markers) and more.

In a message dated 05/12/08 08:49:08 Eastern Daylight Time,

_LCollier@shs-LCollie_ (mailto:LCollier@...) writes:

This morning, I picked up my mail before coming to my office and found

info on an employee health fair to be held here in the hospital today.

That's not the problem. As I read through the info, I saw that there

will be a registered dietitian there. No, not me. No, not our other

RD. I am a bit annoyed and feel like toes are being stepped on. Does

anyone else feel this is kind of odd? Am I over-reacting, or would you

be irritated too?

Collier, RD

Clinical Nutrition Manager

9507 Hospital Avenue

PO Box 17

Nassawadox, VA 23413

fax

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Hi , I agree with Michal but the person at your hospital that orginized

the health fair should have included you in the planning. BTW, I consult for

United Health and they hire me to do health fairs at hospital's or other

corporations that have United Health Insurance. It is usually set by by you HR

department with United Health Insurance. Do you think the your hospital's

insurance carrier is helping? Also, I would contact this RD and treat her

special. Act like you knew all the time and so glad she will be helping you.

Make it a win-win for all the RDs. Hope this helps

Thanks In Advance, Weaver MS RD LD Medical Nutrition Specialist

www.mdrdtherapy.com

Senior Account Executive America's Business Benefit Association

Affordable Health Insurance www.ABBAplans.com

Insurance Producers of America Agency www.ipa-america.com/products.htm

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Re: [NEdpg] Am I overreacting??

Well, at least it's a dietitian. And the more dietitians that are showing they

can be successful in private practice, the better the pay gets for hospital

dietitians. (the old supply/demand thing)..

Michal Hogan, RD, LD, CLT

NUTRITIONRESULTS.COM

local

Resources for patients, doctors and other dietitians to aid in the important

business of treating delayed-type hypersensitivities that cause painful and

chronic conditions like IBS, Crohn's, Ulcerative Colitis, Migraine, Chronic

non-seasonal sinusitis with pain/drainage, Autism Spectrum (with other

sensitivity markers) and more.

In a message dated 05/12/08 08:49:08 Eastern Daylight Time, LCollier@...

writes:

This morning, I picked up my mail before coming to my office and found

info on an employee health fair to be held here in the hospital today.

That's not the problem. As I read through the info, I saw that there

will be a registered dietitian there. No, not me. No, not our other

RD. I am a bit annoyed and feel like toes are being stepped on. Does

anyone else feel this is kind of odd? Am I over-reacting, or would you

be irritated too?

Collier, RD

Clinical Nutrition Manager

9507 Hospital Avenue

PO Box 17

Nassawadox, VA 23413

fax

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I'm not sure why you didn't just contact the RD yourself? I think contacting HR

is great, but why not view this person as a potential networking opportunity?

I find that we are too territorial for our own good sometimes.

With my PCOS program, the whole point of all of my promotions is to promote

the individuals who have completed my course, to be sure the investment in my

program was worth it. Of course, that means getting out and speaking out about

PCOS, because I need to recruit the women who can be sent to those private

practices.

I'll have you know, in a whole year of promoting and doing classes in both

Phoenix and LA, only one dietitian, total, in either city, has EVER referred to

my classes. Since 1 in 10 women has the disease, I find it difficult to believe

that the reason that all the RD's in LA and Phoenix were only able to drum up 1

referral was lack of opportunity.

It's a loss on the part of the RD. If someone comes to my class who is

already working with an RD, they are sent back to that RD, and strongly

encouraged to listen to what s/he has to say.

This doesn't mean people aren't attending my classes. It means that I've

developed a pretty effective grass roots campaign and I'm recruiting women off

the street who weren't seeing RD's...and I'm channeling them into the practices

of course graduates who have supported the business model.

, I encourage you to not be afraid of the " other woman " . She clearly

has some business savvy and ways to get the word out about nutrition that could

be of benefit to you. Invite her to lunch while she's on campus and suggest

that you brainstorm win-win ways to help each other in your respective missions.

There's more than enough business out there to keep both of you busy.

Monika Woolsey

www.afterthediet.com

www.incyst.blogspot.com

www.thisisyourbrainonpsychdrugs.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

Just so everyone is aware...I went up to meet her today. I couldn't

contact her before now b/c I had no idea who she was and neither did

anyone else I was talking to. I left her my card and discussed what

they were going to be doing. She left my card on the table and walked

away from it. Someone else up there asked for it and I gladly gave it

to her.

Anyways...it is done and over with now.

Collier, RD

Clinical Nutrition Manager

9507 Hospital Avenue

PO Box 17

Nassawadox, VA 23413

fax

________________________________

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

Of Monika Woolsey

Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:06 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: [NEdpg] Am I overreacting??

I'm not sure why you didn't just contact the RD yourself? I think

contacting HR is great, but why not view this person as a potential

networking opportunity?

I find that we are too territorial for our own good sometimes.

With my PCOS program, the whole point of all of my promotions is to

promote the individuals who have completed my course, to be sure the

investment in my program was worth it. Of course, that means getting out

and speaking out about PCOS, because I need to recruit the women who can

be sent to those private practices.

I'll have you know, in a whole year of promoting and doing classes in

both Phoenix and LA, only one dietitian, total, in either city, has EVER

referred to my classes. Since 1 in 10 women has the disease, I find it

difficult to believe that the reason that all the RD's in LA and Phoenix

were only able to drum up 1 referral was lack of opportunity.

It's a loss on the part of the RD. If someone comes to my class who is

already working with an RD, they are sent back to that RD, and strongly

encouraged to listen to what s/he has to say.

This doesn't mean people aren't attending my classes. It means that I've

developed a pretty effective grass roots campaign and I'm recruiting

women off the street who weren't seeing RD's...and I'm channeling them

into the practices of course graduates who have supported the business

model.

, I encourage you to not be afraid of the " other woman " . She

clearly has some business savvy and ways to get the word out about

nutrition that could be of benefit to you. Invite her to lunch while

she's on campus and suggest that you brainstorm win-win ways to help

each other in your respective missions. There's more than enough

business out there to keep both of you busy.

Monika Woolsey

www.afterthediet.com

www.incyst.blogspot.com

www.thisisyourbrainonpsychdrugs.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

Oh, that's so unfortunate . I'm sorry.

Re: [NEdpg] Am I overreacting??

I'm not sure why you didn't just contact the RD yourself? I

think

contacting HR is great, but why not view this person as a

potential

networking opportunity?

I find that we are too territorial for our own good sometimes.

With my PCOS program, the whole point of all of my promotions is

to

promote the individuals who have completed my course, to be sure

the

investment in my program was worth it. Of course, that means

getting out

and speaking out about PCOS, because I need to recruit the women

who can

be sent to those private practices.

I'll have you know, in a whole year of promoting and doing

classes in

both Phoenix and LA, only one dietitian, total, in either city,

has EVER

referred to my classes. Since 1 in 10 women has the disease, I

find it

difficult to believe that the reason that all the RD's in LA and

Phoenix

were only able to drum up 1 referral was lack of opportunity.

It's a loss on the part of the RD. If someone comes to my class

who is

already working with an RD, they are sent back to that RD, and

strongly

encouraged to listen to what s/he has to say.

This doesn't mean people aren't attending my classes. It means

that I've

developed a pretty effective grass roots campaign and I'm

recruiting

women off the street who weren't seeing RD's...and I'm

channeling them

into the practices of course graduates who have supported the

business

model.

, I encourage you to not be afraid of the " other woman " .

She

clearly has some business savvy and ways to get the word out

about

nutrition that could be of benefit to you. Invite her to lunch

while

she's on campus and suggest that you brainstorm win-win ways to

help

each other in your respective missions. There's more than enough

business out there to keep both of you busy.

Monika Woolsey

www.afterthediet.com

www.incyst.blogspot.com

www.thisisyourbrainonpsychdrugs.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

,

Just out of curiosity......is she an employee of your hospital or if not, who

does she work for?

Cece

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I think you had a right to find out info BUT gather all the info before

having an opinion. If the hospital wasn't the main sponsor of the health

fair then having that RD wasn't a connection to you (or a put-down of your

services).

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Collier

wrote:

> Just so everyone is aware...I went up to meet her today. I couldn't

> contact her before now b/c I had no idea who she was and neither did

> anyone else I was talking to. I left her my card and discussed what

> they were going to be doing. She left my card on the table and walked

> away from it. Someone else up there asked for it and I gladly gave it

> to her.

>

> Anyways...it is done and over with now.

>

> Collier, RD

>

> Clinical Nutrition Manager

>

> 9507 Hospital Avenue

>

> PO Box 17

>

> Nassawadox, VA 23413

>

>

>

> fax

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:

> rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf

> Of Monika Woolsey

> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:06 AM

> To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: [NEdpg] Am I overreacting??

>

>

> I'm not sure why you didn't just contact the RD yourself? I think

> contacting HR is great, but why not view this person as a potential

> networking opportunity?

>

> I find that we are too territorial for our own good sometimes.

>

> With my PCOS program, the whole point of all of my promotions is to

> promote the individuals who have completed my course, to be sure the

> investment in my program was worth it. Of course, that means getting out

> and speaking out about PCOS, because I need to recruit the women who can

> be sent to those private practices.

>

> I'll have you know, in a whole year of promoting and doing classes in

> both Phoenix and LA, only one dietitian, total, in either city, has EVER

> referred to my classes. Since 1 in 10 women has the disease, I find it

> difficult to believe that the reason that all the RD's in LA and Phoenix

> were only able to drum up 1 referral was lack of opportunity.

>

> It's a loss on the part of the RD. If someone comes to my class who is

> already working with an RD, they are sent back to that RD, and strongly

> encouraged to listen to what s/he has to say.

>

> This doesn't mean people aren't attending my classes. It means that I've

> developed a pretty effective grass roots campaign and I'm recruiting

> women off the street who weren't seeing RD's...and I'm channeling them

> into the practices of course graduates who have supported the business

> model.

>

> , I encourage you to not be afraid of the " other woman " . She

> clearly has some business savvy and ways to get the word out about

> nutrition that could be of benefit to you. Invite her to lunch while

> she's on campus and suggest that you brainstorm win-win ways to help

> each other in your respective missions. There's more than enough

> business out there to keep both of you busy.

>

> Monika Woolsey

> www.afterthediet.com

> www.incyst.blogspot.com

> www.thisisyourbrainonpsychdrugs.blogspot.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here we're thinking it's somebody that might be " raising the bar " and

obviously, this RD was NOT much of a professional if she treated you that way!

Jan

In a message dated 5/13/2008 9:02:36 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

LCollier@... writes:

Just so everyone is aware...I went up to meet her today. I couldn't

contact her before now b/c I had no idea who she was and neither did

anyone else I was talking to. I left her my card and discussed what

they were going to be doing. She left my card on the table and walked

away from it. Someone else up there asked for it and I gladly gave it

to her.

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

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(cell-Hawaii Time) After 10 am Central Time please

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[Guest guest]

It occurred to me after posting that this " other RD " could very well be on this

listserve, reading everything that what was said about her. Who knows why she

reacted the way she did, but without the whole story it's not fair to

...or her...to pass judgment.

Monika