Re: CAROLE/ PLEASE HELP ME

[Guest guest]

Dear Cindi,

I have the same problem you do about weight. Plus both Neurontin and

Prednisone have side affects listed as " weight gain " !!!!!I also take Enbrel

that

has the same affect. Kind of getting slapped with the Chubby wand???I have

started to eat more meals per day. i.e. a piece of cheese.....a cup of

yogurt......Apple and peanut butter. But it seems that the more I eat, small

meals

that I do lose weight. I have lost approximately 1/2 pound per day this

week. Doesn't sound like much, but it seems to work. Maybe we can all help

each

other, I know extra weight makes our disease much worse.

Take Care,

Carol M. in CA

[Guest guest]

Hi :

My name is and I have similar problems too. If you are looking for a

buddy to loose weight with I could sure use one.

I weight about 210 lb. and have been on prednisone a long time and can't get

off of it. I need to loose weight because I have a breathing problem -

atelectasis - and it would help that if I could take some weight off. If you

are

interested, let me know.

Sincerely, Colletti

Anjillah@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindi, Carol, and - I have been on an Healthy Eating

Plan, since November 2003, so am really pleased at my weight loss.

I call it an Healthy Eating Plan, because personally I have to

accept, that although some of my weight gain is due to my illnesses,

I am an emotional eater to. At times, I have certainly ate more

than was good for me:(

My meds are totally different than yours Cindi, so most probably it

was easier for me to lose weight. Also, I am Thyroxine, which could

have helped my weight loss.

It would be fabulous, if you guys could somehow join up, to

encourage each other in everyones attempts to lose weight, plus me

if possible.

These are the types of meals which helped me, I hope they will help

others -

Breakfast

Either:

2 pieces of wholemeal toast, with a tin of plum tomatoes, piece of

fruit

Apple, Orange, and 3 plums

2 ozs of Allbran, piece of fruit

Lunch is normally a sandwich made with Rye bread and with a small

side salad, and a piece of fruit.

Fillings:

Low cal triangle cheese spread

Thin slice of Turkey

Thin slice of Ham

Prawns - just a small handful on a layer of lettuce

Dinner:

Medium Jacket Potato with a filling - can be low cal cheese, prawns,

home made coleslaw.

Microwaveable low cal ready meal, such as lasagne, fish pie

French Bread Pizza (Findus)

I buy the ready prepared bags of salad, with Rocket, Spinach etc

in. A good buy is also the bags of ready prepared veggies for

chinese meals. These include bamboo shoots, green cabbage, carrots,

red peppers, onions etc. I eat all these raw, including white

cabbage, mushrooms and brocolli.

The homemade coleslaw is made up of white cabbage, grated carrots, a

little red onion, and I also add fresh apple, or pear if I wish:)

The dressings are low cal/low fat dressings, bought from the

Supermarket, with cider vinegar added.

Sunday, for breakfast I might have a wholemeal toasted sandwich with

2 thin grilled pieces of bacon, topped with Tomato Ketchup.

Normally for dinner I have oven baked chicken with loads of cooked

veg such as cabbage, carrots and brussel sprouts (boiled or steamed).

I do not weigh anything, the fruits are all of medium size, also the

Jacket potatoes. If I know I have eaten something which is larger,

then the following day, I cut back slightly.

Next weekend I am going to a Cat Show, and will have a few beers LOL

and maybe a bag of American Winegums on my return home. I do have

the odd treat, but they are well spaced out. The last time I did

this, was about a month ago, and before that 3 months.

I do not go walking, but I try to do 30 mins of gentle stretching

exercises on my bed. Am unable to do any with my left arm at

present, because of damaging it, just recently!

All the best to you all in your attempts to slim down:)

Carole

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[Guest guest]

Cindi,

I would start with 3 meals and 3 snacks a day. The key is small meals every

4 hrs or so. going long periods of time with no food tells the body its being

starved so it refuses to let go of the weight. Measure out you meals. I eat

2-4 ozs a meal..my average meal is 3 ozs. I eat protein at EVERY meal. You

need protein to loose fat and keep muscle. Protein also takes longer to

digest that fat or carbohydrates. So a typical meal for me is protein, veggies

and

carbs if there is room(typically there is NO room)

Drink at least 64 ozs of water every day. I usually drink around 100 plus

ozs( I live in Texas where its hot) NO cafferine, if I do drink tea with

cafferine for every oz of tea I have need to drink an additional oz of water.

I stay away from high sugar, high fat foods. Make every thing count that I

eat. I do not use sugar. I sweeten things with splenda. I do NOT graze.

Once I am finished eating I get up and leave the table. No seconds!! I do not

drink while I am eating or drink for at least 30 mins after eating. I also

take at least 30 mins to eat a meat chewing everything at least 20 times.

I do some form of aerobic exercise for at least 15-30 mins a day trying to

increase the time every day. I do not not access to a pool either. I walk, use

elliptical , or gazelle cross trainer.

toni

In a message dated 6/25/2004 10:05:38 PM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:09:27 -0000

From: " CINDI " <heinscsf@...>

Subject: CAROLE/ PLEASE HELP ME

DEAR CAROLE,

HI MY NAME IS CINDI HEIN, I ALSO NEED TO LOSE WEIGHT, I WEIGH RIGHT

NOW WHAT YOU DID AND AM THE SAME HEIGHT. I HAVE RA AND FM AND

NEUROPATHIC PAIN IN MY FEET, WHICH PREVENTS ME FROM WALKING OVER 20

FEET. HOW DID YOU LOSE THE WEIGHT? I NEED TO GET BACK TO MY PRE

ARTHITIS WEIGHT SO BAD, PLEASE HELP ME. I DO NOT EAT ALL DAY, JUST

COFFEE AND SWEET AND LOW. I EAT A SMALL SIZE DINNER AND LOTS OF

SALAD AND I JUST FEEL LIKE A WHALE. I DON'T LOSE AND I HAVE SO MUCH

TROUBLE EVEN MOVING BECAUSE OF MY HIGH PAIN LEVELS EVERY DAY. I AM

ON METHO, PREDNISONE, AND NEURONTIN AND ULTRECET. PLEASE, TELL ME

HOW YOU DID IT AND HOW LONG IT TOOK. IF YOU TELL ME YOU DID IT BY

WALKING EVERYDAY I WILL BREAK DOWN AND CRY AND NEVER STOP. I CAN

BEARLY MOVE FROM THE RA. HOW ELSE CAN YOU LOSE WHEN YOU CAN'T GET

AROUND AND I HAVE NO ACCESS TO A SWIMMING POOL.

THANKS, CINDI HEIN

heinscsf@...

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Yes, sounds great. I think we could form our own little support group when it

comes to weight. I know how hard it is when you are on prednisone. I was one

of the lucky ones who was able to taper off when I went on Enbrel and only use

it for flares. I am stuck in a rut right now and could sure use a buddy.

Sometimes it seems easy and sometimes it seems like climbing a mountain. Talk to

you soon.

ANJILLAH@... wrote:

Hi :

My name is and I have similar problems too. If you are looking for a

buddy to loose weight with I could sure use one.

I weight about 210 lb. and have been on prednisone a long time and can't get

off of it. I need to loose weight because I have a breathing problem -

atelectasis - and it would help that if I could take some weight off. If you

are

interested, let me know.

Sincerely, Colletti

Anjillah@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Carole,

I surely identify with the emotional eating. It is the hardest part for me. In

my pre-RA life I was very active and it helped keep my weight off. After RA

hit, I started turning to food when i was upset or bored and that coupled with

the prednisone was a recipe for disaster-no pun intended. I am trying

despartely to get the emotional thing under control and have lost 50 lbs. in two

years - it is slow but i don't beat myself up anymore when i slip up I just try

again the very next day. Your diet sounds very healthy Carole and very much

what I have been doing myself - a little Weight Watchers and a little common

sense. Talk to you soon.

carolegwyther <gwythermystq@...> wrote:

Hi Cindi, Carol, and - I have been on an Healthy Eating

Plan, since November 2003, so am really pleased at my weight loss.

I call it an Healthy Eating Plan, because personally I have to

accept, that although some of my weight gain is due to my illnesses,

I am an emotional eater to. At times, I have certainly ate more

than was good for me:(

My meds are totally different than yours Cindi, so most probably it

was easier for me to lose weight. Also, I am Thyroxine, which could

have helped my weight loss.

It would be fabulous, if you guys could somehow join up, to

encourage each other in everyones attempts to lose weight, plus me

if possible.

These are the types of meals which helped me, I hope they will help

others -

Breakfast

Either:

2 pieces of wholemeal toast, with a tin of plum tomatoes, piece of

fruit

Apple, Orange, and 3 plums

2 ozs of Allbran, piece of fruit

Lunch is normally a sandwich made with Rye bread and with a small

side salad, and a piece of fruit.

Fillings:

Low cal triangle cheese spread

Thin slice of Turkey

Thin slice of Ham

Prawns - just a small handful on a layer of lettuce

Dinner:

Medium Jacket Potato with a filling - can be low cal cheese, prawns,

home made coleslaw.

Microwaveable low cal ready meal, such as lasagne, fish pie

French Bread Pizza (Findus)

I buy the ready prepared bags of salad, with Rocket, Spinach etc

in. A good buy is also the bags of ready prepared veggies for

chinese meals. These include bamboo shoots, green cabbage, carrots,

red peppers, onions etc. I eat all these raw, including white

cabbage, mushrooms and brocolli.

The homemade coleslaw is made up of white cabbage, grated carrots, a

little red onion, and I also add fresh apple, or pear if I wish:)

The dressings are low cal/low fat dressings, bought from the

Supermarket, with cider vinegar added.

Sunday, for breakfast I might have a wholemeal toasted sandwich with

2 thin grilled pieces of bacon, topped with Tomato Ketchup.

Normally for dinner I have oven baked chicken with loads of cooked

veg such as cabbage, carrots and brussel sprouts (boiled or steamed).

I do not weigh anything, the fruits are all of medium size, also the

Jacket potatoes. If I know I have eaten something which is larger,

then the following day, I cut back slightly.

Next weekend I am going to a Cat Show, and will have a few beers LOL

and maybe a bag of American Winegums on my return home. I do have

the odd treat, but they are well spaced out. The last time I did

this, was about a month ago, and before that 3 months.

I do not go walking, but I try to do 30 mins of gentle stretching

exercises on my bed. Am unable to do any with my left arm at

present, because of damaging it, just recently!

All the best to you all in your attempts to slim down:)

Carole

^^~~^^~~^^~~

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