Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Onward, research! Jefersea [ ] Rituximab in RA: " we should aim for permanent remission " Rituximab in RA: " we should aim for permanent remission " June 16, 2004 17:00 Zosia Chustecka Rheumawire Berlin, Germany - Reviewing the clinical data on rituximab in rheumatoid arthritis (RA) during an oral presentation at last week's EULAR 2004 meeting, Prof (University College, London, UK), who pioneered this approach, emphasized the successes of treatment so far. " B-cell depletion has altered our perception of RA, and rituximab can produce dramatic benefits, " commented, although he cautioned that " nothing is perfect, and this approach has problems, but the problems are manageable. " The drug, already marketed for use in lymphoma (as MabThera® and Rituxan®, by Genentech/Roche), is currently in phase 3 trials in RA and is also being studied in lupus. A monoclonal antibody directed against the CD20 antigen on the surface of B cells, it is administered by infusion and results in a depletion of B cells. The fact that it works in RA was at first rather surprising, as historically RA has been regarded as largely a T-cell-mediated disease. One of the most striking aspects of this new approach is the long-lasting response to therapy with a single, short course of treatment. In his clinical experience with rituximab, says, " The average duration of benefit has been about 15 months, and the longest period of improvement so far is 42 months. " " But if we can get the recipe right, maybe we can get to 3 or 5 years, maybe even 10 years of benefit, " he said, adding that it may even be possible to achieve permanent remission. " This was our original aim, to achieve permanent remission, and this should continue to be our aim, " he said. Another striking observation is that rituximab works only in RA patients who are rheumatoid factor positive (RF+), which leads to suggest that B cells are involved only in RF+ RA and that RF- RA is a T-cell-mediated disease like psoriasis. first reported positive results with rituximab in RA in 2000 and has since headed a large randomized clinical trial, which is published this week in the June 17, 2004 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine [1]. The first results were greeted with much skepticism, especially as they came from an open-label trial, but the positive results from this randomized trialwhich have already been presented at several large meetings, as previously reported by rheumawirehave transmuted the initial skepticism into a growing but cautious excitement. " Rheumatoid arthritis is a seriously debilitating disease. This study shows that rituximab can alleviate key symptoms of RA such as pain and can also improve the patients' ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities that may otherwise prove difficult. These results offer a promising future for patients with RA, " says Prof Emery (University of Leeds, UK) in a press release issued by Roche. Emery was 1 of several UK researchers involved in the trial, which was carried out in collaboration with 3 centers in Poland. The trial involved 161 patients with active RA despite methotrexate treatment, randomized to receive: Methotrexate alone (>10 mg per week, orally) the control group. Rituximab alone (1000 mg by infusion on days 1 and 15). Rituximab with methotrexate. Rituximab with cyclophosphamide (750 mg on days 3 and 17). All of the patients also received a short course of corticosteroids, the researchers note. This consisted of an intravenous infusion of methylprednisolone 100 mg before infusions of rituximab or cyclophosphamide or their placebos, plus oral prednisone on day 2 and days 4 through 7 and 30 mg on days 8 though 14. A single short course of rituximab, either alone or in a combination, resulted in a significant improvement in disease symptoms. In all the groups treated with rituximab, a significantly higher proportion of patients had a 20% improvement in disease symptoms according to ACR criteria (65%-76% vs 38%, p<0.025) or EULAR responses (83%-85%vs 50%, p<0.004). In the group receiving rituximab with methotrexate, all ACR responses were maintained at week 48. The groups receiving rituximab had a profound and prolonged depletion of peripheral blood B cells, which raises the question of whether these patients may be more susceptible to infection, the researchers comment. However, at weeks 24 and 48, the overall incidence of infection was similar in the control group and the rituximab groups, with no obvious pattern in types of causative organisms. At 24 weeks, serious infections occurred in 1 patient (2.5%) in the control group and in 4 patients (3.3%) in the rituximab groups, and a further 2 serious infections occurred in the extended observation period to 48 weeks. One patient in the rituximab monotherapy group, who had a concomitant cardiac condition, died from fatal bronchopneumonia. " This incidence of infection will require careful monitoring in future studies, as will long-term effects on acquired immunity, " the researchers comment. This was a formal phase 2 study, sponsored by Roche, intended to be used for the licensing of a new indication for the drug, explained to rheumawire in an interview. He was the initiator of this trial but " had a relatively hands-off involvement because the study was designed to confirm my own preliminary findings. " He is concerned that the results may be misinterpreted as suggesting that rituximab should be used together with methotrexate, but he says: " To me, it's completely illogical, because the 2 treatments are unrelated, they're not doing the same thing. " Also, most of the patients like rituximab because there aren't regular medications, whereas if methotrexate is given as well, " you spoil that benefit . . . and the patients get perfectly adequate benefit from rituximab without methotrexate. " is continuing with his own clinical studies and so far has treated 40 patients over the past 5 years. " Some of these data have been published in review articles, and we're intending to publish another bank of data soon, " he says. (There are details on the experience with 38 patients in 's abstracts for the EULAR meeting [2, 3]. He reports that overall about 80% of seropositive patients may experience continuing control of the disease, but seronegative RA appears to be unresponsive.) uses rituximab alone, with some steroid cover for the infusion only. " For the time being, it's a sensible way of using it, " he says, and the patients are happy that they have only a short course of treatment and then have a year or more free from any medication. " But the real issue is, after 3 or 4 years, when the patients have had 3 courses of treatment, the immunoglobulin levels (IgM) levels fall, and they can fall very low. Also, the levels of immunoglobulins and B cells as well don't return to baseline. We haven't got any clear evidence that it's caused any problems, but, logically, if these levels fell any lower, there could be problems in the long term; the patients could become immunodeficient and at risk of infections. " " I think the difficulty is that, although we can use rituximab for those 3 to 4 years, we may not be able to use it for much longer, so I think we may have to change how we're doing it. . . . Either we need to give them 1 shot and do it right, or we may need to change the strategy and give a course of treatment that may be rather longer but that would cause the disease to disappear rather more gradually, " he says. It may also be useful to explore other agentsthere are several new drugs now approaching clinical trials, and while some are also B-cell depleters, others are targeting the B cells in other ways. So far, there are no data on the effect of rituximab on radiographic progression of RAthe number of patients so far have been too smallbut this data should come out of phase 3, says. " I would expect it to. . . . If you get rid of the disease, you get rid of the x-ray progression, it's as simple as that. " But is it important? " Well, it's important for the regulatory authorities and also for rather obsessive academic rheumatologists who go around giving lectures at meetings, but for general rheumatologists who want to help their patients get out of bed in the morning, it doesn't make any difference at al. . . . If you have patients who can't get out of bed in the morning, and you give them rituximab and they can go to work, you're not really interested in whether or not their x-rays have changed. " Disability comes from damage to the soft tissue, and x-rays are very poor predictor of disability, he maintains. " There's a lot of rubbish talked about x-ray progression and in another 2 or 3 years, people will realize this, but at the moment the regulatory authorities have got a bee in their bonnet about it, " he says, adding that he considers it to be " of secondary importance. " As rituximab is already marketed, it can already be used off label for rheumatoid arthritis. " To any rheumatologists who want to use it off label, I would say first of all make sure they understand why they are considering using it, and if they do that, then they will know whether they should use it or not, " says. " Because the biological mechanism is so completely different from anything else, the way you use it is completely different from anything else, and a doctor who starts using it without understanding this can get into deep trouble. " " You have to understand what rituximab is doing to the B cells, and what the significance of that is, and sadly, 99% of rheumatologists don't understand that and some may be using it in an inappropriate way, " he says. Even experts who have written editorials and reviews about this therapeutic approach " still haven't understood what we did in the first place, and so they are promoting the wrong explanationthey seem to think that you take away the B cells to quiet down the T cells, and that's nonsenseyou take way the B cells because the B cells cause the disease, it's very simple, " he says. " We published that 5 to 6 years ago in Immunology [4], and most people haven't got around to reading that, " he adds. " That's the key to why we did it and why it worksthat's the thing to go back to, " insists. " Most of the editorials and reviews that have been written about our work have missed the point completely. " Sources JCW, Szczepanski L, Szechinski J, et al. Efficacy of B-cell-targeted therapy with rituximab in patients with rheumatoid arthritis. N Engl J Med 2004; 350:2572-2581. Nahir A, J, Pavelka K. Selective depletion of cd20+ b cells with a single course of rituximab: pronounced and sustained benefits for up to 48 weeks in patients with rheumatoid arthritis. Presented at: EULAR 2004; Berlin, Germany; June 9-12, 2004. Abstract FRI0131 Nahir A, J, Pavelka K. Selective depletion of cd20+ b cells with a single course of rituximab: pronounced and sustained benefits for up to 48 weeks in patients with rheumatoid arthritis. Presented at: EULAR 2004; Berlin, Germany; June 9-12, 2004. Abstract FRI0131. JC, Cambridge G, Abrahams VM. Do self-perpetuating B-lymphocytes drive human autoimmune disease? Immunology 1999; 97:188-196. I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Hi , I was really happy to read this, because it's pretty discouraging when all that is experienced is pain and uncertainty, to say the least. As with all experiments, there will be trials and errors, but I think they're perhaps on the right track. , thank you for sharing this info with us. Jefersea [ ] Rituximab in RA: " we should aim for permanent remission " Rituximab in RA: " we should aim for permanent remission " June 16, 2004 17:00 Zosia Chustecka Rheumawire Berlin, Germany - Reviewing the clinical data on rituximab in rheumatoid arthritis (RA) during an oral presentation at last week's EULAR 2004 meeting, Prof (University College, London, UK), who pioneered this approach, emphasized the successes of treatment so far. " B-cell depletion has altered our perception of RA, and rituximab can produce dramatic benefits, " commented, although he cautioned that " nothing is perfect, and this approach has problems, but the problems are manageable. " The drug, already marketed for use in lymphoma (as MabThera® and Rituxan®, by Genentech/Roche), is currently in phase 3 trials in RA and is also being studied in lupus. A monoclonal antibody directed against the CD20 antigen on the surface of B cells, it is administered by infusion and results in a depletion of B cells. The fact that it works in RA was at first rather surprising, as historically RA has been regarded as largely a T-cell-mediated disease. One of the most striking aspects of this new approach is the long-lasting response to therapy with a single, short course of treatment. In his clinical experience with rituximab, says, " The average duration of benefit has been about 15 months, and the longest period of improvement so far is 42 months. " " But if we can get the recipe right, maybe we can get to 3 or 5 years, maybe even 10 years of benefit, " he said, adding that it may even be possible to achieve permanent remission. " This was our original aim, to achieve permanent remission, and this should continue to be our aim, " he said. Another striking observation is that rituximab works only in RA patients who are rheumatoid factor positive (RF+), which leads to suggest that B cells are involved only in RF+ RA and that RF- RA is a T-cell-mediated disease like psoriasis. first reported positive results with rituximab in RA in 2000 and has since headed a large randomized clinical trial, which is published this week in the June 17, 2004 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine [1]. The first results were greeted with much skepticism, especially as they came from an open-label trial, but the positive results from this randomized trialwhich have already been presented at several large meetings, as previously reported by rheumawirehave transmuted the initial skepticism into a growing but cautious excitement. " Rheumatoid arthritis is a seriously debilitating disease. This study shows that rituximab can alleviate key symptoms of RA such as pain and can also improve the patients' ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities that may otherwise prove difficult. These results offer a promising future for patients with RA, " says Prof Emery (University of Leeds, UK) in a press release issued by Roche. Emery was 1 of several UK researchers involved in the trial, which was carried out in collaboration with 3 centers in Poland. The trial involved 161 patients with active RA despite methotrexate treatment, randomized to receive: Methotrexate alone (>10 mg per week, orally) the control group. Rituximab alone (1000 mg by infusion on days 1 and 15). Rituximab with methotrexate. Rituximab with cyclophosphamide (750 mg on days 3 and 17). All of the patients also received a short course of corticosteroids, the researchers note. This consisted of an intravenous infusion of methylprednisolone 100 mg before infusions of rituximab or cyclophosphamide or their placebos, plus oral prednisone on day 2 and days 4 through 7 and 30 mg on days 8 though 14. A single short course of rituximab, either alone or in a combination, resulted in a significant improvement in disease symptoms. In all the groups treated with rituximab, a significantly higher proportion of patients had a 20% improvement in disease symptoms according to ACR criteria (65%-76% vs 38%, p<0.025) or EULAR responses (83%-85%vs 50%, p<0.004). In the group receiving rituximab with methotrexate, all ACR responses were maintained at week 48. The groups receiving rituximab had a profound and prolonged depletion of peripheral blood B cells, which raises the question of whether these patients may be more susceptible to infection, the researchers comment. However, at weeks 24 and 48, the overall incidence of infection was similar in the control group and the rituximab groups, with no obvious pattern in types of causative organisms. At 24 weeks, serious infections occurred in 1 patient (2.5%) in the control group and in 4 patients (3.3%) in the rituximab groups, and a further 2 serious infections occurred in the extended observation period to 48 weeks. One patient in the rituximab monotherapy group, who had a concomitant cardiac condition, died from fatal bronchopneumonia. " This incidence of infection will require careful monitoring in future studies, as will long-term effects on acquired immunity, " the researchers comment. This was a formal phase 2 study, sponsored by Roche, intended to be used for the licensing of a new indication for the drug, explained to rheumawire in an interview. He was the initiator of this trial but " had a relatively hands-off involvement because the study was designed to confirm my own preliminary findings. " He is concerned that the results may be misinterpreted as suggesting that rituximab should be used together with methotrexate, but he says: " To me, it's completely illogical, because the 2 treatments are unrelated, they're not doing the same thing. " Also, most of the patients like rituximab because there aren't regular medications, whereas if methotrexate is given as well, " you spoil that benefit . . . and the patients get perfectly adequate benefit from rituximab without methotrexate. " is continuing with his own clinical studies and so far has treated 40 patients over the past 5 years. " Some of these data have been published in review articles, and we're intending to publish another bank of data soon, " he says. (There are details on the experience with 38 patients in 's abstracts for the EULAR meeting [2, 3]. He reports that overall about 80% of seropositive patients may experience continuing control of the disease, but seronegative RA appears to be unresponsive.) uses rituximab alone, with some steroid cover for the infusion only. " For the time being, it's a sensible way of using it, " he says, and the patients are happy that they have only a short course of treatment and then have a year or more free from any medication. " But the real issue is, after 3 or 4 years, when the patients have had 3 courses of treatment, the immunoglobulin levels (IgM) levels fall, and they can fall very low. Also, the levels of immunoglobulins and B cells as well don't return to baseline. We haven't got any clear evidence that it's caused any problems, but, logically, if these levels fell any lower, there could be problems in the long term; the patients could become immunodeficient and at risk of infections. " " I think the difficulty is that, although we can use rituximab for those 3 to 4 years, we may not be able to use it for much longer, so I think we may have to change how we're doing it. . . . Either we need to give them 1 shot and do it right, or we may need to change the strategy and give a course of treatment that may be rather longer but that would cause the disease to disappear rather more gradually, " he says. It may also be useful to explore other agentsthere are several new drugs now approaching clinical trials, and while some are also B-cell depleters, others are targeting the B cells in other ways. So far, there are no data on the effect of rituximab on radiographic progression of RAthe number of patients so far have been too smallbut this data should come out of phase 3, says. " I would expect it to. . . . If you get rid of the disease, you get rid of the x-ray progression, it's as simple as that. " But is it important? " Well, it's important for the regulatory authorities and also for rather obsessive academic rheumatologists who go around giving lectures at meetings, but for general rheumatologists who want to help their patients get out of bed in the morning, it doesn't make any difference at al. . . . If you have patients who can't get out of bed in the morning, and you give them rituximab and they can go to work, you're not really interested in whether or not their x-rays have changed. " Disability comes from damage to the soft tissue, and x-rays are very poor predictor of disability, he maintains. " There's a lot of rubbish talked about x-ray progression and in another 2 or 3 years, people will realize this, but at the moment the regulatory authorities have got a bee in their bonnet about it, " he says, adding that he considers it to be " of secondary importance. " As rituximab is already marketed, it can already be used off label for rheumatoid arthritis. " To any rheumatologists who want to use it off label, I would say first of all make sure they understand why they are considering using it, and if they do that, then they will know whether they should use it or not, " says. " Because the biological mechanism is so completely different from anything else, the way you use it is completely different from anything else, and a doctor who starts using it without understanding this can get into deep trouble. " " You have to understand what rituximab is doing to the B cells, and what the significance of that is, and sadly, 99% of rheumatologists don't understand that and some may be using it in an inappropriate way, " he says. Even experts who have written editorials and reviews about this therapeutic approach " still haven't understood what we did in the first place, and so they are promoting the wrong explanationthey seem to think that you take away the B cells to quiet down the T cells, and that's nonsenseyou take way the B cells because the B cells cause the disease, it's very simple, " he says. " We published that 5 to 6 years ago in Immunology [4], and most people haven't got around to reading that, " he adds. " That's the key to why we did it and why it worksthat's the thing to go back to, " insists. " Most of the editorials and reviews that have been written about our work have missed the point completely. " Sources JCW, Szczepanski L, Szechinski J, et al. Efficacy of B-cell-targeted therapy with rituximab in patients with rheumatoid arthritis. N Engl J Med 2004; 350:2572-2581. Nahir A, J, Pavelka K. Selective depletion of cd20+ b cells with a single course of rituximab: pronounced and sustained benefits for up to 48 weeks in patients with rheumatoid arthritis. Presented at: EULAR 2004; Berlin, Germany; June 9-12, 2004. Abstract FRI0131 Nahir A, J, Pavelka K. Selective depletion of cd20+ b cells with a single course of rituximab: pronounced and sustained benefits for up to 48 weeks in patients with rheumatoid arthritis. Presented at: EULAR 2004; Berlin, Germany; June 9-12, 2004. Abstract FRI0131. JC, Cambridge G, Abrahams VM. Do self-perpetuating B-lymphocytes drive human autoimmune disease? Immunology 1999; 97:188-196. I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 You're very welcome, Jefersea. This is an era full of promise for better RA therapies. Research and trials of rituximab have been going on for several years; it's already approved for use in lymphoma. Even if it isn't the perfect therapy for RA, it has shown remarkable results for some. Perhaps more importantly, through the study of rituximab, much has been learned about the nature of RA itself. I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org [ ] Rituximab in RA: " we should aim for permanent remission " Rituximab in RA: " we should aim for permanent remission " June 16, 2004 17:00 Zosia Chustecka Rheumawire Berlin, Germany - Reviewing the clinical data on rituximab in rheumatoid arthritis (RA) during an oral presentation at last week's EULAR 2004 meeting, Prof (University College, London, UK), who pioneered this approach, emphasized the successes of treatment so far. " B-cell depletion has altered our perception of RA, and rituximab can produce dramatic benefits, " commented, although he cautioned that " nothing is perfect, and this approach has problems, but the problems are manageable. " The drug, already marketed for use in lymphoma (as MabThera® and Rituxan®, by Genentech/Roche), is currently in phase 3 trials in RA and is also being studied in lupus. A monoclonal antibody directed against the CD20 antigen on the surface of B cells, it is administered by infusion and results in a depletion of B cells. The fact that it works in RA was at first rather surprising, as historically RA has been regarded as largely a T-cell-mediated disease. One of the most striking aspects of this new approach is the long-lasting response to therapy with a single, short course of treatment. In his clinical experience with rituximab, says, " The average duration of benefit has been about 15 months, and the longest period of improvement so far is 42 months. " " But if we can get the recipe right, maybe we can get to 3 or 5 years, maybe even 10 years of benefit, " he said, adding that it may even be possible to achieve permanent remission. " This was our original aim, to achieve permanent remission, and this should continue to be our aim, " he said. Another striking observation is that rituximab works only in RA patients who are rheumatoid factor positive (RF+), which leads to suggest that B cells are involved only in RF+ RA and that RF- RA is a T-cell-mediated disease like psoriasis. first reported positive results with rituximab in RA in 2000 and has since headed a large randomized clinical trial, which is published this week in the June 17, 2004 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine [1]. The first results were greeted with much skepticism, especially as they came from an open-label trial, but the positive results from this randomized trialwhich have already been presented at several large meetings, as previously reported by rheumawirehave transmuted the initial skepticism into a growing but cautious excitement. " Rheumatoid arthritis is a seriously debilitating disease. This study shows that rituximab can alleviate key symptoms of RA such as pain and can also improve the patients' ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities that may otherwise prove difficult. These results offer a promising future for patients with RA, " says Prof Emery (University of Leeds, UK) in a press release issued by Roche. Emery was 1 of several UK researchers involved in the trial, which was carried out in collaboration with 3 centers in Poland. The trial involved 161 patients with active RA despite methotrexate treatment, randomized to receive: Methotrexate alone (>10 mg per week, orally) the control group. Rituximab alone (1000 mg by infusion on days 1 and 15). Rituximab with methotrexate. Rituximab with cyclophosphamide (750 mg on days 3 and 17). All of the patients also received a short course of corticosteroids, the researchers note. This consisted of an intravenous infusion of methylprednisolone 100 mg before infusions of rituximab or cyclophosphamide or their placebos, plus oral prednisone on day 2 and days 4 through 7 and 30 mg on days 8 though 14. A single short course of rituximab, either alone or in a combination, resulted in a significant improvement in disease symptoms. In all the groups treated with rituximab, a significantly higher proportion of patients had a 20% improvement in disease symptoms according to ACR criteria (65%-76% vs 38%, p<0.025) or EULAR responses (83%-85%vs 50%, p<0.004). In the group receiving rituximab with methotrexate, all ACR responses were maintained at week 48. The groups receiving rituximab had a profound and prolonged depletion of peripheral blood B cells, which raises the question of whether these patients may be more susceptible to infection, the researchers comment. However, at weeks 24 and 48, the overall incidence of infection was similar in the control group and the rituximab groups, with no obvious pattern in types of causative organisms. At 24 weeks, serious infections occurred in 1 patient (2.5%) in the control group and in 4 patients (3.3%) in the rituximab groups, and a further 2 serious infections occurred in the extended observation period to 48 weeks. One patient in the rituximab monotherapy group, who had a concomitant cardiac condition, died from fatal bronchopneumonia. " This incidence of infection will require careful monitoring in future studies, as will long-term effects on acquired immunity, " the researchers comment. This was a formal phase 2 study, sponsored by Roche, intended to be used for the licensing of a new indication for the drug, explained to rheumawire in an interview. He was the initiator of this trial but " had a relatively hands-off involvement because the study was designed to confirm my own preliminary findings. " He is concerned that the results may be misinterpreted as suggesting that rituximab should be used together with methotrexate, but he says: " To me, it's completely illogical, because the 2 treatments are unrelated, they're not doing the same thing. " Also, most of the patients like rituximab because there aren't regular medications, whereas if methotrexate is given as well, " you spoil that benefit . . . and the patients get perfectly adequate benefit from rituximab without methotrexate. " is continuing with his own clinical studies and so far has treated 40 patients over the past 5 years. " Some of these data have been published in review articles, and we're intending to publish another bank of data soon, " he says. (There are details on the experience with 38 patients in 's abstracts for the EULAR meeting [2, 3]. He reports that overall about 80% of seropositive patients may experience continuing control of the disease, but seronegative RA appears to be unresponsive.) uses rituximab alone, with some steroid cover for the infusion only. " For the time being, it's a sensible way of using it, " he says, and the patients are happy that they have only a short course of treatment and then have a year or more free from any medication. " But the real issue is, after 3 or 4 years, when the patients have had 3 courses of treatment, the immunoglobulin levels (IgM) levels fall, and they can fall very low. Also, the levels of immunoglobulins and B cells as well don't return to baseline. We haven't got any clear evidence that it's caused any problems, but, logically, if these levels fell any lower, there could be problems in the long term; the patients could become immunodeficient and at risk of infections. " " I think the difficulty is that, although we can use rituximab for those 3 to 4 years, we may not be able to use it for much longer, so I think we may have to change how we're doing it. . . . Either we need to give them 1 shot and do it right, or we may need to change the strategy and give a course of treatment that may be rather longer but that would cause the disease to disappear rather more gradually, " he says. It may also be useful to explore other agentsthere are several new drugs now approaching clinical trials, and while some are also B-cell depleters, others are targeting the B cells in other ways. So far, there are no data on the effect of rituximab on radiographic progression of RAthe number of patients so far have been too smallbut this data should come out of phase 3, says. " I would expect it to. . . . If you get rid of the disease, you get rid of the x-ray progression, it's as simple as that. " But is it important? " Well, it's important for the regulatory authorities and also for rather obsessive academic rheumatologists who go around giving lectures at meetings, but for general rheumatologists who want to help their patients get out of bed in the morning, it doesn't make any difference at al. . . . If you have patients who can't get out of bed in the morning, and you give them rituximab and they can go to work, you're not really interested in whether or not their x-rays have changed. " Disability comes from damage to the soft tissue, and x-rays are very poor predictor of disability, he maintains. " There's a lot of rubbish talked about x-ray progression and in another 2 or 3 years, people will realize this, but at the moment the regulatory authorities have got a bee in their bonnet about it, " he says, adding that he considers it to be " of secondary importance. " As rituximab is already marketed, it can already be used off label for rheumatoid arthritis. " To any rheumatologists who want to use it off label, I would say first of all make sure they understand why they are considering using it, and if they do that, then they will know whether they should use it or not, " says. " Because the biological mechanism is so completely different from anything else, the way you use it is completely different from anything else, and a doctor who starts using it without understanding this can get into deep trouble. " " You have to understand what rituximab is doing to the B cells, and what the significance of that is, and sadly, 99% of rheumatologists don't understand that and some may be using it in an inappropriate way, " he says. Even experts who have written editorials and reviews about this therapeutic approach " still haven't understood what we did in the first place, and so they are promoting the wrong explanationthey seem to think that you take away the B cells to quiet down the T cells, and that's nonsenseyou take way the B cells because the B cells cause the disease, it's very simple, " he says. " We published that 5 to 6 years ago in Immunology [4], and most people haven't got around to reading that, " he adds. " That's the key to why we did it and why it worksthat's the thing to go back to, " insists. " Most of the editorials and reviews that have been written about our work have missed the point completely. " Sources JCW, Szczepanski L, Szechinski J, et al. Efficacy of B-cell-targeted therapy with rituximab in patients with rheumatoid arthritis. N Engl J Med 2004; 350:2572-2581. Nahir A, J, Pavelka K. Selective depletion of cd20+ b cells with a single course of rituximab: pronounced and sustained benefits for up to 48 weeks in patients with rheumatoid arthritis. Presented at: EULAR 2004; Berlin, Germany; June 9-12, 2004. Abstract FRI0131 Nahir A, J, Pavelka K. Selective depletion of cd20+ b cells with a single course of rituximab: pronounced and sustained benefits for up to 48 weeks in patients with rheumatoid arthritis. Presented at: EULAR 2004; Berlin, Germany; June 9-12, 2004. Abstract FRI0131. JC, Cambridge G, Abrahams VM. Do self-perpetuating B-lymphocytes drive human autoimmune disease? Immunology 1999; 97:188-196. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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