Re: Can Being Double-Jointed Cause Pain?

[Guest guest]

, thanks for the great information, Tawny

> Arthritis Foundation

> Arthritis Today

> Research Spotlight

> 2001

>

>

> Can Being Double-Jointed Cause Pain?

>

> Being able to bend your joints beyond their natural range of motion

may

> do more than make you the life of the party. Research has suggested

this

> ability (called joint hypermobility) might up your odds of

developing

> fibromyalgia - or at least a " fibromyalgia-like syndrome. "

> In a new study published in the Journal of Rheumatology, researchers

> looked at 178 people - about half of whom had been diagnosed with

> fibromyalgia, the other half with no fibromyalgia symptoms. They

found

> that people with fibromyalgia who met American College of

Rheumatology

> (ACR) diagnostic criteria, which include the presence of tender

points

> and widespread musculoskeletal pain, were slightly more likely to

have

> joint hypermobility than the healthy people.

>

> The biggest difference researchers found, however, was in people

who had

> been diagnosed with fibromyalgia but who didn't meet the ACR

criteria

> for the syndrome. Thirty-one percent of those people had joint

> hypermobility, compared to just 6 percent of those who did not have

> fibromyalgia.

>

> Why? " It seems reasonable to hypothesize that repeated minor trauma

> [from moving the joints past their intended range] may result in

> musculoskeletal pain that may eventually amplify into a more diffuse

> pain syndrome recognizable as fibromyalgia, " says Ann

Fitzcharles,

> MD, associate professor of medicine at McGill University in

Montreal.

>

> " Clearly hypermobility is not the only or the major factor in the

> development of widespread pain or fibromyalgia, but rather a

> contributing mechanism in some [people], " explains Dr. Fitzcharles.

>

> The authors' best advice: Though you may be tempted to bend over

> backwards (literally) to entertain your friends, it's best to

refrain

> from such exaggerated joint movement that could lead to pain later.

>

> -MARY ANNE DUNKIN

>

> Source: Journal of Rheumatology, Vol. 27, No. 7

>

>

http://www.arthritis.org/resources/arthritistoday/2001_archives/2001_0

1_02_ar_doublejointed.asp

>

>

>

>

> I'll tell you where to go!

>

> Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

>

> s Hopkins Medicine

> http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[Guest guest]

You're welcome, Tawny! I don't know what to think about

double-jointedness as it relates to rheumatic diseases.

I have one sister who is super flexible and has had many hypermobile

joints since a very young age. She has no problems with arthritis yet

(late 30s). I wouldn't say that, overall, I'm double-jointed, but some

of my joints go beyond their normal range of motion.

In general, I believe it's hard to know whether double-jointedness is

the chicken or the egg when it comes to osteoarthritis, rheumatoid

arthritis, and fibromyalgia.

It's an interesting topic though, and I'm glad you brought it up.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] Re: Can Being Double-Jointed Cause Pain?

> , thanks for the great information, Tawny

[Guest guest]

I'm not double jointed but my joints have always felt

sloppy-like when I threw something hard I could feel

the seperation in the shoulder and elbow joint. This

sloppiness is one reason I never got into sports-it

always felt like things would literally go out of

joint with hard violent usage.They don't know what I

actually have probably because its pretty mild right

now and fairly asymptomatic.How many people have loose

joints?--- Tawny <tawnyokc@...> wrote:

> , thanks for the great information, Tawny

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Arthritis Foundation

> > Arthritis Today

> > Research Spotlight

> > 2001

> >

> >

> > Can Being Double-Jointed Cause Pain?

> >

> > Being able to bend your joints beyond their

> natural range of motion

> may

> > do more than make you the life of the party.

> Research has suggested

> this

> > ability (called joint hypermobility) might up your

> odds of

> developing

> > fibromyalgia - or at least a " fibromyalgia-like

> syndrome. "

> > In a new study published in the Journal of

> Rheumatology, researchers

> > looked at 178 people - about half of whom had been

> diagnosed with

> > fibromyalgia, the other half with no fibromyalgia

> symptoms. They

> found

> > that people with fibromyalgia who met American

> College of

> Rheumatology

> > (ACR) diagnostic criteria, which include the

> presence of tender

> points

> > and widespread musculoskeletal pain, were slightly

> more likely to

> have

> > joint hypermobility than the healthy people.

> >

> > The biggest difference researchers found, however,

> was in people

> who had

> > been diagnosed with fibromyalgia but who didn't

> meet the ACR

> criteria

> > for the syndrome. Thirty-one percent of those

> people had joint

> > hypermobility, compared to just 6 percent of those

> who did not have

> > fibromyalgia.

> >

> > Why? " It seems reasonable to hypothesize that

> repeated minor trauma

> > [from moving the joints past their intended range]

> may result in

> > musculoskeletal pain that may eventually amplify

> into a more diffuse

> > pain syndrome recognizable as fibromyalgia, " says

> Ann

> Fitzcharles,

> > MD, associate professor of medicine at McGill

> University in

> Montreal.

> >

> > " Clearly hypermobility is not the only or the

> major factor in the

> > development of widespread pain or fibromyalgia,

> but rather a

> > contributing mechanism in some [people], " explains

> Dr. Fitzcharles.

> >

> > The authors' best advice: Though you may be

> tempted to bend over

> > backwards (literally) to entertain your friends,

> it's best to

> refrain

> > from such exaggerated joint movement that could

> lead to pain later.

> >

> > -MARY ANNE DUNKIN

> >

> > Source: Journal of Rheumatology, Vol. 27, No. 7

> >

> >

>

http://www.arthritis.org/resources/arthritistoday/2001_archives/2001_0

> 1_02_ar_doublejointed.asp

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I'll tell you where to go!

> >

> > Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> > http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

> >

> > s Hopkins Medicine

> > http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

>

>

[Guest guest]

, Growing up I use to really show out with my magic,hee-hee.

Also, I would have to pop my legs a couple of times a day, or they

would hurt. Now, I don't have to pop them, if I did they would

really hurt me. Thanks for sharing the information, I can always

count on you for help, Tawny

> You're welcome, Tawny! I don't know what to think about

> double-jointedness as it relates to rheumatic diseases.

>

> I have one sister who is super flexible and has had many hypermobile

> joints since a very young age. She has no problems with arthritis

yet

> (late 30s). I wouldn't say that, overall, I'm double-jointed, but

some

> of my joints go beyond their normal range of motion.

>

> In general, I believe it's hard to know whether double-jointedness

is

> the chicken or the egg when it comes to osteoarthritis, rheumatoid

> arthritis, and fibromyalgia.

>

> It's an interesting topic though, and I'm glad you brought it up.

>

>

>

>

> I'll tell you where to go!

>

> Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

>

> s Hopkins Medicine

> http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

>

>

> [ ] Re: Can Being Double-Jointed Cause Pain?

>

>

> > , thanks for the great information, Tawny

[Guest guest]

I have noticed the loose joint feeling. If I am setting for a period

of time, I notice my shoulder's will start feeling loose feeling,

like their going out of place.

> > > Arthritis Foundation

> > > Arthritis Today

> > > Research Spotlight

> > > 2001

> > >

> > >

> > > Can Being Double-Jointed Cause Pain?

> > >

> > > Being able to bend your joints beyond their

> > natural range of motion

> > may

> > > do more than make you the life of the party.

> > Research has suggested

> > this

> > > ability (called joint hypermobility) might up your

> > odds of

> > developing

> > > fibromyalgia - or at least a " fibromyalgia-like

> > syndrome. "

> > > In a new study published in the Journal of

> > Rheumatology, researchers

> > > looked at 178 people - about half of whom had been

> > diagnosed with

> > > fibromyalgia, the other half with no fibromyalgia

> > symptoms. They

> > found

> > > that people with fibromyalgia who met American

> > College of

> > Rheumatology

> > > (ACR) diagnostic criteria, which include the

> > presence of tender

> > points

> > > and widespread musculoskeletal pain, were slightly

> > more likely to

> > have

> > > joint hypermobility than the healthy people.

> > >

> > > The biggest difference researchers found, however,

> > was in people

> > who had

> > > been diagnosed with fibromyalgia but who didn't

> > meet the ACR

> > criteria

> > > for the syndrome. Thirty-one percent of those

> > people had joint

> > > hypermobility, compared to just 6 percent of those

> > who did not have

> > > fibromyalgia.

> > >

> > > Why? " It seems reasonable to hypothesize that

> > repeated minor trauma

> > > [from moving the joints past their intended range]

> > may result in

> > > musculoskeletal pain that may eventually amplify

> > into a more diffuse

> > > pain syndrome recognizable as fibromyalgia, " says

> > Ann

> > Fitzcharles,

> > > MD, associate professor of medicine at McGill

> > University in

> > Montreal.

> > >

> > > " Clearly hypermobility is not the only or the

> > major factor in the

> > > development of widespread pain or fibromyalgia,

> > but rather a

> > > contributing mechanism in some [people], " explains

> > Dr. Fitzcharles.

> > >

> > > The authors' best advice: Though you may be

> > tempted to bend over

> > > backwards (literally) to entertain your friends,

> > it's best to

> > refrain

> > > from such exaggerated joint movement that could

> > lead to pain later.

> > >

> > > -MARY ANNE DUNKIN

> > >

> > > Source: Journal of Rheumatology, Vol. 27, No. 7

> > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.arthritis.org/resources/arthritistoday/2001_archives/2001_0

> > 1_02_ar_doublejointed.asp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I'll tell you where to go!

> > >

> > > Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> > > http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

> > >

> > > s Hopkins Medicine

> > > http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I seem to be worse in all the joints that I am " double jointed " in.

I have such a bad hip - it pops out so bad - I have been in the

middle of a horse show and had to stop my horse and turn sideways

to " pop " it back into place. Needless to say, riding is now a

memory :-( It is strange because one of the weirdest places that

I was double jointed was the tips of my fingers and they are the

worst now, along with my left hip and the hip will just drop me down

as I am walking along sometimes. I think there is some correlation.

in CA

> > > > Arthritis Foundation

> > > > Arthritis Today

> > > > Research Spotlight

> > > > 2001

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Can Being Double-Jointed Cause Pain?

> > > >

> > > > Being able to bend your joints beyond their

> > > natural range of motion

> > > may

> > > > do more than make you the life of the party.

> > > Research has suggested

> > > this

> > > > ability (called joint hypermobility) might up your

> > > odds of

> > > developing

> > > > fibromyalgia - or at least a " fibromyalgia-like

> > > syndrome. "

> > > > In a new study published in the Journal of

> > > Rheumatology, researchers

> > > > looked at 178 people - about half of whom had been

> > > diagnosed with

> > > > fibromyalgia, the other half with no fibromyalgia

> > > symptoms. They

> > > found

> > > > that people with fibromyalgia who met American

> > > College of

> > > Rheumatology

> > > > (ACR) diagnostic criteria, which include the

> > > presence of tender

> > > points

> > > > and widespread musculoskeletal pain, were slightly

> > > more likely to

> > > have

> > > > joint hypermobility than the healthy people.

> > > >

> > > > The biggest difference researchers found, however,

> > > was in people

> > > who had

> > > > been diagnosed with fibromyalgia but who didn't

> > > meet the ACR

> > > criteria

> > > > for the syndrome. Thirty-one percent of those

> > > people had joint

> > > > hypermobility, compared to just 6 percent of those

> > > who did not have

> > > > fibromyalgia.

> > > >

> > > > Why? " It seems reasonable to hypothesize that

> > > repeated minor trauma

> > > > [from moving the joints past their intended range]

> > > may result in

> > > > musculoskeletal pain that may eventually amplify

> > > into a more diffuse

> > > > pain syndrome recognizable as fibromyalgia, " says

> > > Ann

> > > Fitzcharles,

> > > > MD, associate professor of medicine at McGill

> > > University in

> > > Montreal.

> > > >

> > > > " Clearly hypermobility is not the only or the

> > > major factor in the

> > > > development of widespread pain or fibromyalgia,

> > > but rather a

> > > > contributing mechanism in some [people], " explains

> > > Dr. Fitzcharles.

> > > >

> > > > The authors' best advice: Though you may be

> > > tempted to bend over

> > > > backwards (literally) to entertain your friends,

> > > it's best to

> > > refrain

> > > > from such exaggerated joint movement that could

> > > lead to pain later.

> > > >

> > > > -MARY ANNE DUNKIN

> > > >

> > > > Source: Journal of Rheumatology, Vol. 27, No. 7

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.arthritis.org/resources/arthritistoday/2001_archives/2001_

0

> > > 1_02_ar_doublejointed.asp

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I'll tell you where to go!

> > > >

> > > > Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> > > > http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

> > > >

> > > > s Hopkins Medicine

> > > > http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

> > >

> > >