Re: ..Thank you... Oxy

[Guest guest]

: First may I say thank you for your posts on narcotics, I only

wish the stigma and misunderstanding would some how self resolve.

Then I would like to say I am sorry, I was'nt trying to imply anyone

should take anything only citing experience. I don't take any med

before I have researched it throughly. Having scleroderma they are

always trying to give me something, I think they feel they must DO

something, and as there are no proven therapies they feel helpless.

Judi is in the same kinda of situation, I believe. But, if something

works, and for me oxy does, I have a half a life back, I will

continue to take it. It took alot of convincing for me to try it, and

then I was so embarrassed because I could have felt so much better if

I had tried it to start off with. In IMHO there are alot more scary

drugs, and steroids would be my NO.1 choice to NOT take, along with

several others. I have gone off and on my oxy without any withdrawal

problems, and I have been to a few pain clinics, their drug of

choice was methadone, which ....I....could'nt tolerate. We each react

to drugs differently, so I would never knock anything that works for

some one else. It seems the stigma will never go away, and the

narcotics will always have a bad rap, it is to bad these articles

don't compare them with other choices. And of course the bottom

line ...all drugs are bad for you, you are putting a chemical in your

body that was never suppose to be there, of course the wonderful

diseases were'nt suppose to either.....thank you for trying to keep

us all educated......hugs Kathi in OK

[Guest guest]

I am sorry , I meant a comparison list showing the side effects

of all the drugs....I misworded....please excuse.....and here I was

thinking you were taking a well deserved break doing something for

...hugs Kathi in OK

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wrote:

> You're so welcome, Kathi!

>

> I'm not sure what you mean when you say, " it is to bad these

articles

> don't compare them with other choices. "

>

>

>

>

> I'll tell you where to go!

>

> Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

>

> s Hopkins Medicine

> http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

>

>

> [ ] RE: ..Thank you... Oxy

>

>

> > : First may I say thank you for your posts on narcotics, I

only

> > wish the stigma and misunderstanding would some how self resolve.

> > Then I would like to say I am sorry, I was'nt trying to imply

anyone

> > should take anything only citing experience. I don't take any med

> > before I have researched it throughly. Having scleroderma they are

> > always trying to give me something, I think they feel they must DO

> > something, and as there are no proven therapies they feel

helpless.

> > Judi is in the same kinda of situation, I believe. But, if

something

> > works, and for me oxy does, I have a half a life back, I will

> > continue to take it. It took alot of convincing for me to try it,

and

> > then I was so embarrassed because I could have felt so much

better if

> > I had tried it to start off with. In IMHO there are alot more

scary

> > drugs, and steroids would be my NO.1 choice to NOT take, along

with

> > several others. I have gone off and on my oxy without any

withdrawal

> > problems, and I have been to a few pain clinics, their drug of

> > choice was methadone, which ....I....could'nt tolerate. We each

react

> > to drugs differently, so I would never knock anything that works

for

> > some one else. It seems the stigma will never go away, and the

> > narcotics will always have a bad rap, it is to bad these articles

> > don't compare them with other choices. And of course the bottom

> > line ...all drugs are bad for you, you are putting a chemical in

your

> > body that was never suppose to be there, of course the wonderful

> > diseases were'nt suppose to either.....thank you for trying to

keep

> > us all educated......hugs Kathi in OK

[Guest guest]

: I meant the drugs generally given for autoimmune

diseases....but it does'nt matter, at this point I am sorry I ever

suggested to Dixie the fact that if you are in pain, or tired,or

depressed or anything else you should voice this to your PCP, rheumy,

whatever....I was'nt even suggesting she try what I try as I don't

even have the same disease process going on, and did mention that. I

have never asked for any drug, was not refferred to a pain clinic for

that reason, but had several docs pushing me to go because of MRI's

and other tests, they said they knew I had to be in severe pain. I

have never had a problem dealing with pain(had 3 kids ala natural)

lol....and thought pain was something you just dealt with.....and was

quickly told by several doctors that NO ONE should have to, or be

expected to live in chronic pain....and it really gets my goat when

I hear addicted....most chronic pain folks are dependent not

addicted.....dependent to have a LIFE....it makes me angry that a

has to be afraid of saying something to a new doc, because she will

be looked at as a possible drug seeker....I have much appreciated

your posts on all this.......and I truly feel even luckier at this

point to have the docs I do.....my PCP starts every visit with ...1.

Are you sleeping? 2.Are you taking your pain meds? Are they doing the

job? 3.Is there anything new going on that I should know? 4. Are you

behaving?....which at this point when I laugh, he says good your

sense of humor is intact....my rheumy does about the same, except he

always ends my visit with....Red, keeping fighting the brave

fight....I personally feel these are the questions that should be

asked. I feel my PCP is my doc and friend....and I can ask him

anything, and if he disagrees he flat out tells me....NO..or how

about this instead or let me think about it because I don't know, but

I will find out. Why would any doc go into a field like rheumatolgy

knowing that he/she would be seeing patients that deal with pain on a

day to day basis, with treatments that have no guarentee's and not be

willing to work with the patient through medicine and education to

help relieve some of the pain? Don't we have the right to have the

pain issue as well as disease addressed? When I read posts in this

very group, that the pain or depression from the pain is so bad,

putting themselves out of misery is an option, it makes me sooo

angry. I am getting off the soap box now, and at this point will

leave this exhaustive subject up to you and a....and boy I am

glad you guys are the moderators......as always thank you for doing

what you do....and I think I am going to go have a medicinal

wine....but then maybe I'll have to worry about being an alcoholic(

scuse the sarcasm there)......kathi in OK

> > > You're so welcome, Kathi!

> > >

> > > I'm not sure what you mean when you say, " it is to bad these

> > articles

> > > don't compare them with other choices. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I'll tell you where to go!

> > >

> > > Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> > > http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

> > >

> > > s Hopkins Medicine

> > > http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

> > >

> > >

> > > [ ] RE: ..Thank you... Oxy

> > >

> > >

> > > > : First may I say thank you for your posts on narcotics, I

> > only

> > > > wish the stigma and misunderstanding would some how self

resolve.

> > > > Then I would like to say I am sorry, I was'nt trying to imply

> > anyone

> > > > should take anything only citing experience. I don't take any

med

> > > > before I have researched it throughly. Having scleroderma

they are

> > > > always trying to give me something, I think they feel they

must DO

> > > > something, and as there are no proven therapies they feel

> > helpless.

> > > > Judi is in the same kinda of situation, I believe. But, if

> > something

> > > > works, and for me oxy does, I have a half a life back, I will

> > > > continue to take it. It took alot of convincing for me to try

it,

> > and

> > > > then I was so embarrassed because I could have felt so much

> > better if

> > > > I had tried it to start off with. In IMHO there are alot more

> > scary

> > > > drugs, and steroids would be my NO.1 choice to NOT take, along

> > with

> > > > several others. I have gone off and on my oxy without any

> > withdrawal

> > > > problems, and I have been to a few pain clinics, their drug

of

> > > > choice was methadone, which ....I....could'nt tolerate. We

each

> > react

> > > > to drugs differently, so I would never knock anything that

works

> > for

> > > > some one else. It seems the stigma will never go away, and the

> > > > narcotics will always have a bad rap, it is to bad these

articles

> > > > don't compare them with other choices. And of course the

bottom

> > > > line ...all drugs are bad for you, you are putting a chemical

in

> > your

> > > > body that was never suppose to be there, of course the

wonderful

> > > > diseases were'nt suppose to either.....thank you for trying to

> > keep

> > > > us all educated......hugs Kathi in OK