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Of course It's OK! That's part of what the group is for is to share with

each other about these things.

That's a LOT of prednisone to take each day - I'm only allowed to take 20

mg. a day, but I " cheat " and take 40 on bad days, and 10 on the better days, and

go off it for a while each month. I hope you're taking Fosamax of Actonel and

calcium with it.

My doctor told me that Percocet is as strong as Oxy, but much less

dangerous. I know it's addictive, which is why I watch it carefully.

There are two kinds of addiction. The first is stricly physical . . . after

taking a med for a while, your body is used to it, and if you want to go off it,

you have to taper off under a doctor's supervision.

The 2nd kind of addiction is the one we all fear - the kind where your body

begins to crave the drug, and you'll do anything to get it, and need more and

more. People go to two doctors to get the same med, 2 pharmacies, and pay for

one Rx and have the other go to their insurance. This is the type addiction

that will land you in rehab . . . or worse.

Not everyone will get the 2nd kind of addiction, and most people prefer to

think of the first type as being dependent because they don't want anyone to

identify them with the 2nd kind.

I can't take xanax or halcion, because I'll become instantly addicted - the

2nd kind. So I know the signs very well, and if I ever take a med that causes

something similar, I'll throw them down the toilet and call my Dr.

Codeine in its various forms has never been a problem that way for me. But

I still watch it, because I don't want it to become a problem.

BTW, I'm a retired psychologist, and this is the way we explain it to

patients. There is some research indicating that certain people are more likely

to develop the 2nd type of addiction than other people, who rarely develop it.

They aren't sure if it's genetic, but think there may be a connection.

Dix

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> I have what is a problem to me that I'd like some advice on.

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> Like pretty much everyone here, I have good days and bad days.

> Unfortunately, there have been a lot more bad days recently than good ones.

> I have meds I can take, but tend to be cautious about narcotic painkillers.

> I also have muscle relaxers for my fibro, and valium for my AS when the

> inflammation starts pinching the nerves. I try to take only what I need to

> bring it down to a tolerable level. Sometimes, even 2 Percocet doesn't have

> much of an impact. And that's something I rarely do - take 2 of a med.

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> So, on the trally bad days, when it hurts just to walk, I'll go back

> to bed and put on a relaxing CD. Sometimes, I'll end up spending most of

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> day in bed.

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> And I feel guilty when I spend a lot of time in bed. I think it

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> back to my childhood when I was told literally every day that I wasn't good

> enough and I would never be good enough. Spent 15 years in therapy getting

> rid of most of the " ghosts " .

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> I was also taught that there was always someone worse than I was.

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> Dad was fully fused from AS and worked full time. Of course, he took

massive

> amount of prednisone and painkillers to be able to do so, and died at age 51

> from the side effects of all those meds. It's one of the reasons I watch my

> meds.

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> But I know there are people all over the world who have many, many

> more problems than I do, and a lot of them have no meds to help them out.

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> So, the bottom line is that I don't know if I should be pushing

> myself more than I do on the bad days, or if I should find a way to stop

> feeling guilty for resting on those days.

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> Any help would be most appreciated.

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> Dix

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