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Is it common for people with RA to Develope Lupus also. I had an appt. with my

rheumy yesterday and my last blood test shows possitive for lupus. I have a rash

across my cheeks and nose in which they said could be lupus or a sun reaction,

but do not have rash any where else. No mouth or nose sores. Anyone have any

commments to help?

Renate

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I am taking Prednisone, Propoxyphene (darveset), Folic acid, Effexor,

Celebrex, Methotrexate, Zanaflex, Calcium plus D, B6, And a multivitamin,

and Enbrel.

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> > Is it common for people with RA to Develope Lupus also. I had an appt.

> with my rheumy yesterday and my last blood test shows possitive for

> lupus. I have a rash across my cheeks and nose in which they said could

> be lupus or a sun reaction, but do not have rash any where else. No

> mouth or nose sores. Anyone have any commments to help?

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> > Renate

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Hi Renate,

I also have Lupus and RA. I have the positive ANA for Lupus and the

rash across my nose and cheeks. They call that the butterfly rash

(nice eh?) and I get sores in my mouth occassionally - on my tounge.

(But I never knew if that was related.) The rashes certainly are. I

also get the rashes on my chest, stomach and low back at times.

Getting a Lupus Dx can be something that developes over time. Not such

a cut and dry thing. Your doctor will probably want to watch what

happens with you and test you a lot and the picture will get clearer

thru time. But the Lupus/RA overlap is not uncommon from what I know

(which is some.)

How long have you known about the RA and how was that Dxed?

Carol

> Is it common for people with RA to Develope Lupus also. I had an

appt. with my rheumy yesterday and my last blood test shows possitive

for lupus. I have a rash across my cheeks and nose in which they said

could be lupus or a sun reaction, but do not have rash any where else.

No mouth or nose sores. Anyone have any commments to help?

>

>

> Renate

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Prednisone can cause this rash. It could also be a histamine

reaction to pain. I do that too. I get it all over though.

Butterfly across my cheeks and nose, and patchy rash every where

else. You haven't noticed any where else?? Marina

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> I am taking Prednisone, Propoxyphene (darveset), Folic acid,

Effexor,

> Celebrex, Methotrexate, Zanaflex, Calcium plus D, B6, And a

multivitamin,

> and Enbrel.

> [ ] Ra and Lupus

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> >

> > > Is it common for people with RA to Develope Lupus also. I had

an appt.

> > with my rheumy yesterday and my last blood test shows possitive

for

> > lupus. I have a rash across my cheeks and nose in which they

said could

> > be lupus or a sun reaction, but do not have rash any where else.

No

> > mouth or nose sores. Anyone have any commments to help?

> > >

> > >

> > > Renate

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Marina,

I have not noticed it any where else. The rheumy thinks maybe the sun. I

have not been out though. Keeps asking about mouth sores and I don't have

any more than normal with dentures. I guess it will be a waiting game again

to see what becomes of it. It sure is a burning sensation on my cheeks and

nose though.

Thanks

Renate

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> > >

> > > > Is it common for people with RA to Develope Lupus also. I had

> an appt.

> > > with my rheumy yesterday and my last blood test shows possitive

> for

> > > lupus. I have a rash across my cheeks and nose in which they

> said could

> > > be lupus or a sun reaction, but do not have rash any where else.

> No

> > > mouth or nose sores. Anyone have any commments to help?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Renate

> > >

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I have known about the RA since last August. I went to a Chiropractor (sp)

and he popped every joint I have and made an adjustment in my neck. The next

day I could not get out of bed I hurt so bad. I have had alot of problems

with my ankles and knees for years. I went to several different doctors

before I got the dx of RA. I also got a pinched nerve in my neck for the

adjustment. It has been fixed. I have a torn rotator cuff that they will not

do anything to because of the meds. I take. It has been a very trying and

painful year.

Renate

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> Hi Renate,

>

> I also have Lupus and RA. I have the positive ANA for Lupus and the

> rash across my nose and cheeks. They call that the butterfly rash

> (nice eh?) and I get sores in my mouth occassionally - on my tounge.

> (But I never knew if that was related.) The rashes certainly are. I

> also get the rashes on my chest, stomach and low back at times.

>

> Getting a Lupus Dx can be something that developes over time. Not such

> a cut and dry thing. Your doctor will probably want to watch what

> happens with you and test you a lot and the picture will get clearer

> thru time. But the Lupus/RA overlap is not uncommon from what I know

> (which is some.)

>

> How long have you known about the RA and how was that Dxed?

>

> Carol

>

>

>

> > Is it common for people with RA to Develope Lupus also. I had an

> appt. with my rheumy yesterday and my last blood test shows possitive

> for lupus. I have a rash across my cheeks and nose in which they said

> could be lupus or a sun reaction, but do not have rash any where else.

> No mouth or nose sores. Anyone have any commments to help?

> >

> >

> > Renate

> >

> >

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Renate, if the facial rash and positive ANA are new and have occurred

only after you added Enbrel, the Enbrel could be responsible.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

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> > Hello, Renate!

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> > No it is not common for people with RA to develop lupus. At least

30% of

> > people with RA are ANA positive at some time, but a positive ANA

does

> > not automatically mean lupus. Most people who have a positive ANA do

not

> > have lupus.

> >

> > What drugs are you currently taking?

> >

> >

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I hope so.

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> >

> > > Hello, Renate!

> > >

> > > No it is not common for people with RA to develop lupus. At least

> 30% of

> > > people with RA are ANA positive at some time, but a positive ANA

> does

> > > not automatically mean lupus. Most people who have a positive ANA do

> not

> > > have lupus.

> > >

> > > What drugs are you currently taking?

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Actually Renate, it is NOT common to have RA and Lupus. The rash on your

face can be from the Mtx. Mtx can cause skin rash and it also can make you

more sun sensitive. When I was on mtx, I got rashes on my face when I went

out in the sun.

Sun, Your Arthritis, and Your Medications

http://rheumatology.hss.edu/pat/specInfo/sideEffects/sun.asp

As far as the blood test, Lupus is like RA in that there is no specific

blood test to get a firm diagnosis. Your ANA probably came out positive,

but that doesn¹t mean you have lupus. My ANA is positive but I don¹t have

lupus. There are many reasons for a positive ANA and some of them have

symptoms that are similar to lupus. Did you doctor say you could have lupus

INSTEAD of RA? Do you have copies of your blood test?

This link that posted explains better:

http://www.mtio.com/lupus/docmess2/1848.html

a

> Is it common for people with RA to Develope Lupus also. I had an appt. with my

> rheumy yesterday and my last blood test shows possitive for lupus. I have a

> rash across my cheeks and nose in which they said could be lupus or a sun

> reaction, but do not have rash any where else. No mouth or nose sores. Anyone

> have any commments to help?

>

>

> Renate

>

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Actually Renate, it is NOT common to have RA and Lupus. The rash on your

face can be from the Mtx. Mtx can cause skin rash and it also can make you

more sun sensitive. When I was on mtx, I got rashes on my face when I went

out in the sun.

Sun, Your Arthritis, and Your Medications

http://rheumatology.hss.edu/pat/specInfo/sideEffects/sun.asp

As far as the blood test, Lupus is like RA in that there is no specific

blood test to get a firm diagnosis. Your ANA probably came out positive,

but that doesn¹t mean you have lupus. My ANA is positive but I don¹t have

lupus. There are many reasons for a positive ANA and some of them have

symptoms that are similar to lupus. Did you doctor say you could have lupus

INSTEAD of RA? Do you have copies of your blood test?

This link that posted explains better:

http://www.mtio.com/lupus/docmess2/1848.html

a

> Is it common for people with RA to Develope Lupus also. I had an appt. with my

> rheumy yesterday and my last blood test shows possitive for lupus. I have a

> rash across my cheeks and nose in which they said could be lupus or a sun

> reaction, but do not have rash any where else. No mouth or nose sores. Anyone

> have any commments to help?

>

>

> Renate

>

>

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