Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2687985/Woman-who-turned\ -silver-warns-of-dangers-of-internet-medicines.html Woman who turned silver warns of dangers of internet medicines -- Ortiz, RD The best vitamin for making friends..... is B1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Yea, it's good to still see these types of stories online. Years ago, I had a personal training client who was ALWAYS looking for the 'alternative' cure to everything: Aging, weight loss, aging, constipation, wrinkles, aging, aging.... And we CONSTANTLY discussed the pros and cons, positives and negatives, of all of these things! geesh; it was exhausting. Of course some of her ongoing problems really COULD be resolved by diet, but she preferred a pill. Then one day she 'found' the next miracle cure... colloidal silver. She didn't have to order it from the internet, but I was able to find a very similar story to this one ON the internet, in order to convince her to not take this product. It actually worked! She decided that surgery was easier than exercise... for weight loss (abdominoplasty and liposuction)... for wrinkles (face lifts)... and for aging (?)...... I imagine she's actually older (darn how that happens!)... but maybe behind the permanent smile, she feels younger. However, WITHOUT actually eating a whole, healthy diet and exercising, I have my doubts. Margie Marjorie Geiser, RD, NSCA-CPT " Just Jump: The No-Fear Business Start-up Guide for Health and Fitness Professionals " http://www.californiabasedpublishing.com http://www.meg-enterprises.com Ortiz wrote: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2687985/Woman-who-turned\ -silver-warns-of-dangers-of-internet-medicines.html > <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2687985/Woman-who-turne\ d-silver-warns-of-dangers-of-internet-medicines.html> > > Woman who turned silver warns of dangers of internet medicines > > -- > Ortiz, RD > The best vitamin > for making friends..... is B1. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Media reports are abuzz today with the story of Rosemary s, a 66-year-old Vermont woman who says her skin is permanently gray because of colloidal silver. s blames her gray skin, a condition called argyria, on colloidal silver in nasal drops that she took as needed for four years starting as an 11-year-old. She says her skin slowly turned gray. s' case was noted in May 1999 in The New England Journal of Medicine. You wouldn't get colloidal silver exactly the way s did today. The FDA has cracked down on colloidal silver, but that doesn't mean those products are totally gone. Karason, the so-called " Blue Man " in California who says he drank colloidal silver and applied it to his skin, has also attracted media attention for his argyria. s says she wants colloidal silver supplements to carry warning labels about argyria. She also wants anyone who makes unsubstantiated claims about their safety and efficacy to be prosecuted. What is colloidal silver, why do people take it, and what other health risks does it pose? For answers, WebMD spoke with Shao, PhD, vice president of scientific and regulatory affairs at the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a trade group for the dietary supplements industry. Other background information comes from the web sites of the FDA and the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM). What is colloidal silver? Colloidal silver is composed of tiny silver particles suspended in liquid. What is argyria? Argyria is a permanent blue-gray discoloration of the skin and deep tissues. It can result from using colloidal silver products. What other risks are there from colloidal silver products? Apart from argyria, the NCCAM says colloidal silver products may cause side effects including " neurologic problems (such as seizures), kidney damage, stomach distress, headaches, fatigue, and skin irritation, " and that colloidal silver may hamper the body's absorption of certain drugs (penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine). Why do people take colloidal silver? " The products are purported to alleviate all sorts of medical conditions and diseases but there's no substantiation for that, " says Shao. Colloidal silver products are often marketed with unproven health claims. " Examples include that they benefit the immune system; kill disease-causing agents such as bacteria, viruses, and fungi; are an alternative to prescription antibiotics; or treat diseases such as cancer, HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, syphilis, scarlet fever, shingles, herpes, pneumonia, and prostatitis (inflammation of the prostate), " states the NCCAM's web site. Is colloidal silver still in nasal drops? No. The FDA banned colloidal silver from all over-the-counter drugs in 1999. What about colloidal silver supplements? The FDA's 1999 ban on colloidal silver is specifically about over-the-counter drugs, not dietary supplements. But the FDA has cracked down on companies selling colloidal silver supplements that claim that the supplements cure conditions or do other things that drugs do. Shao says that colloidal silver -- and colloidal gold and colloidal titanium -- " are not legitimate dietary ingredients. They play no role in the diet; they're not essential in the diet. " But that doesn't mean colloidal silver hasn't been hawked online. " The fact that it's on the Internet -- there's lots of stuff on the Internet that maybe shouldn't be, " says Shao. " That's not an indication of FDA's blessing or lack thereof; it's more of an indication of insufficient enforcement. " http://www.webmd.com/news/20080905/colloidal-silver-faq On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Marjorie Geiser, RD, NSCA-CPT < margie@...> wrote: > Yea, it's good to still see these types of stories online. > > Years ago, I had a personal training client who was ALWAYS looking for > the 'alternative' cure to everything: Aging, weight loss, aging, > constipation, wrinkles, aging, aging.... > And we CONSTANTLY discussed the pros and cons, positives and negatives, > of all of these things! geesh; it was exhausting. Of course some of her > ongoing problems really COULD be resolved by diet, but she preferred a > pill. > > Then one day she 'found' the next miracle cure... colloidal silver. She > didn't have to order it from the internet, but I was able to find a very > similar story to this one ON the internet, in order to convince her to > not take this product. It actually worked! > > She decided that surgery was easier than exercise... for weight loss > (abdominoplasty and liposuction)... for wrinkles (face lifts)... and for > aging (?)...... I imagine she's actually older (darn how that > happens!)... but maybe behind the permanent smile, she feels younger. > However, WITHOUT actually eating a whole, healthy diet and exercising, I > have my doubts. > > Margie > > Marjorie Geiser, RD, NSCA-CPT > " Just Jump: The No-Fear Business Start-up Guide for Health and Fitness > Professionals " > http://www.californiabasedpublishing.com > http://www.meg-enterprises.com > > > > Ortiz wrote: > > > > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2687985/Woman-who-turned\ -silver-warns-of-dangers-of-internet-medicines.html > > < > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2687985/Woman-who-turned\ -silver-warns-of-dangers-of-internet-medicines.html > > > > > > Woman who turned silver warns of dangers of internet medicines > > > > -- > > Ortiz, RD > > The best vitamin > > for making friends..... is B1. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Remember, this woman's condition was caused about 55 years ago. Many things were on the market then that are now considered unsafe. Shoot, I recall RDs that recommending diets low enough in fat 20 years ago to cause omega-3 fatty acid deficiencies! I recall RDs suggesting people not eat nuts and avocado because of the fat. (I never did fall for that one!) or to choose less fatty fish! duh Anecdotally, I've used colloidal silver, after a routine tooth cleaning ended up in a gum infection. As an alternative to driving 90 miles round trip to the dentist, paying his fee to look at my sore, inflammed gum and prescribe a $30 dollar antibiotic, I choose to use 3 t. colloidal silver as a mouth swish first, then swallowed, for 3 days. Infection gone. (For 3 days prior to that, it was getting progressively worse.) Anecdotal and possibly coincidence? You bet. . . but I'd do it again to save $100 in gas, Dr bills and drugs. (The dentist was new to me and refused to prescribe antibiotic over the phone. I never went back to him, needless to say.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Not blue at all. . . In a message dated 9/6/2008 8:26:43 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, nrord1@... writes: Media reports are abuzz today with the story of Rosemary s, a 66-year-old Vermont woman who says her skin is permanently gray because of colloidal silver. s blames her gray skin, a condition called argyria, on colloidal silver in nasal drops that she took as needed for four years starting as an 11-year-old. She says her skin slowly turned gray. s' case was noted in May 1999 in The New England Journal of Medicine. You wouldn't get colloidal silver exactly the way s did today. The FDA has cracked down on colloidal silver, but that doesn't mean those products are totally gone. Karason, the so-called " Blue Man " in California who says he drank colloidal silver and applied it to his skin, has also attracted media attention for his argyria. s says she wants colloidal silver supplements to carry warning labels about argyria. She also wants anyone who makes unsubstantiated claims about their safety and efficacy to be prosecuted. What is colloidal silver, why do people take it, and what other health risks does it pose? For answers, WebMD spoke with Shao, PhD, vice president of scientific and regulatory affairs at the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a trade group for the dietary supplements industry. Other background information comes from the web sites of the FDA and the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM). What is colloidal silver? Colloidal silver is composed of tiny silver particles suspended in liquid. What is argyria? Argyria is a permanent blue-gray discoloration of the skin and deep tissues. It can result from using colloidal silver products. What other risks are there from colloidal silver products? Apart from argyria, the NCCAM says colloidal silver products may cause side effects including " neurologic problems (such as seizures), kidney damage, stomach distress, headaches, fatigue, and skin irritation, " and that colloidal silver may hamper the body's absorption of certain drugs (penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine). Why do people take colloidal silver? " The products are purported to alleviate all sorts of medical conditions and diseases but there's no substantiation for that, " says Shao. Colloidal silver products are often marketed with unproven health claims. " Examples include that they benefit the immune system; kill disease-causing agents such as bacteria, viruses, and fungi; are an alternative to prescription antibiotics; or treat diseases such as cancer, HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, syphilis, scarlet fever, shingles, herpes, pneumonia, and prostatitis (inflammation of the prostate), " states the NCCAM's web site. Is colloidal silver still in nasal drops? No. The FDA banned colloidal silver from all over-the-counter drugs in 1999. What about colloidal silver supplements? The FDA's 1999 ban on colloidal silver is specifically about over-the-counter drugs, not dietary supplements. But the FDA has cracked down on companies selling colloidal silver supplements that claim that the supplements cure conditions or do other things that drugs do. Shao says that colloidal silver -- and colloidal gold and colloidal titanium -- " are not legitimate dietary ingredients. They play no role in the diet; they're not essential in the diet. " But that doesn't mean colloidal silver hasn't been hawked online. " The fact that it's on the Internet -- there's lots of stuff on the Internet that maybe shouldn't be, " says Shao. " That's not an indication of FDA's blessing or lack thereof; it's more of an indication of insufficient enforcement.e _http://www.webmd.http://wwhttp://wwhttp://wwwhttp://www_ (http://www.webmd.com/news/20080905/colloidal-silver-faq) On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Marjorie Geiser, RD, NSCA-CPT < _margie@..._ (mailto:margie@...) > wrote: > Yea, it's good to still see these types of stories online. > > Years ago, I had a personal training client who was ALWAYS looking for > the 'alternative' cure to everything: Aging, weight loss, aging, > constipation, wrinkles, aging, aging.... > And we CONSTANTLY discussed the pros and cons, positives and negatives, > of all of these things! geesh; it was exhausting. Of course some of her > ongoing problems really COULD be resolved by diet, but she preferred a > pill. > > Then one day she 'found' the next miracle cure... colloidal silver. She > didn't have to order it from the internet, but I was able to find a very > similar story to this one ON the internet, in order to convince her to > not take this product. It actually worked! > > She decided that surgery was easier than exercise... for weight loss > (abdominoplasty and liposuction) (abdominoplasty and liposuction)<WBR>... fo > aging (?)...... I imagine she's actually older (darn how that > happens!)... but maybe behind the permanent smile, she feels younger. > However, WITHOUT actually eating a whole, healthy diet and exercising, I > have my doubts. > > Margie > > Marjorie Geiser, RD, NSCA-CPT > " Just Jump: The No-Fear Business Start-up Guide for Health and Fitness > Professionals " > _http://www.californhttp://www.califhttp:_ (http://www.californiabasedpublishing.com/) > _http://www.meg-http://www.mhtt_ (http://www.meg-enterprises.com/) > > > > Ortiz wrote: > > > > > _http://www.telegraphttp://www.tehttp://www.http://www.tehttp://www.telhttp://ww\ w.http://www.tehttp://www.http://www.thttp://wwwhttp_ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2687985/Woman-who-turne\ d-silver-warns-of- dangers-of-internet-medicines.html) > > < > _http://www.telegraphttp://www.tehttp://www.http://www.tehttp://www.telhttp://ww\ w.http://www.tehttp://www.http://www.thttp://wwwhttp_ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2687985/Woman-who-turne\ d-silver-warns-of- dangers-of-internet-medicines.html) > > > > > > Woman who turned silver warns of dangers of internet medicines > > > > -- > > Ortiz, RD > > The best vitamin > > for making friends..... is B1. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Ortiz, RD The best vitamin for making friends..... is B1. 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Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 You should have seen the uproar I caused on the WholeCatHealth list by passing the article on! Even though I added " everything in moderation " one would have thought I was accusing the coloidal silver users of attrocities against their cats. grrrr! Dose makes the poison. Silvadene the wonder cream contains silver; silver salts in floral preservatives extend vase life and so forth. It was an interesting article and a good example of how one can go overboard. Schoneweis, MS RD > > > Remember, this woman's condition was caused about 55 years ago. Many things > were on the market then that are now considered unsafe. > > Shoot, I recall RDs that recommending diets low enough in fat 20 years ago > to cause omega-3 fatty acid deficiencies! I recall RDs suggesting people > not > eat nuts and avocado because of the fat. (I never did fall for that one!) > or > to choose less fatty fish! duh > > Anecdotally, I've used colloidal silver, after a routine tooth cleaning > ended up in a gum infection. As an alternative to driving 90 miles round > trip to > the dentist, paying his fee to look at my sore, inflammed gum and prescribe > a > $30 dollar antibiotic, I choose to use 3 t. colloidal silver as a mouth > swish > first, then swallowed, for 3 days. Infection gone. (For 3 days prior to > that, it was getting progressively worse.) Anecdotal and possibly > coincidence? > You bet. . . but I'd do it again to save $100 in gas, Dr bills and drugs. > > (The dentist was new to me and refused to prescribe antibiotic over the > phone. I never went back to him, needless to say.) > > Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT > Not blue at all. . . > > In a message dated 9/6/2008 8:26:43 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > nrord1@... writes: > > > > > Media reports are abuzz today with the story of Rosemary s, a > 66-year-old Vermont woman who says her skin is permanently gray because of > colloidal silver. > > s blames her gray skin, a condition called argyria, on colloidal > silver > in nasal drops that she took as needed for four years starting as an > 11-year-old. She says her skin slowly turned gray. s' case was noted > in > May 1999 in The New England Journal of Medicine. > > You wouldn't get colloidal silver exactly the way s did today. The > FDA > has cracked down on colloidal silver, but that doesn't mean those products > are totally gone. Karason, the so-called " Blue Man " in California who > says he drank colloidal silver and applied it to his skin, has also > attracted media attention for his argyria. > > s says she wants colloidal silver supplements to carry warning labels > about argyria. She also wants anyone who makes unsubstantiated claims > about > their safety and efficacy to be prosecuted. > > What is colloidal silver, why do people take it, and what other health > risks > does it pose? For answers, WebMD spoke with Shao, PhD, vice > president > of scientific and regulatory affairs at the Council for Responsible > Nutrition, a trade group for the dietary supplements industry. Other > background information comes from the web sites of the FDA and the > National > Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM). > What is colloidal silver? > > Colloidal silver is composed of tiny silver particles suspended in liquid. > What is argyria? > > Argyria is a permanent blue-gray discoloration of the skin and deep > tissues. > It can result from using colloidal silver products. > What other risks are there from colloidal silver products? > > Apart from argyria, the NCCAM says colloidal silver products may cause > side > effects including " neurologic problems (such as seizures), kidney damage, > stomach distress, headaches, fatigue, and skin irritation, " and that > colloidal silver may hamper the body's absorption of certain drugs > (penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine). > Why do people take colloidal silver? > > " The products are purported to alleviate all sorts of medical conditions > and > diseases but there's no substantiation for that, " says Shao. > > Colloidal silver products are often marketed with unproven health claims. > " Examples include that they benefit the immune system; kill > disease-causing > agents such as bacteria, viruses, and fungi; are an alternative to > prescription antibiotics; or treat diseases such as cancer, HIV/AIDS, > tuberculosis, syphilis, scarlet fever, shingles, herpes, pneumonia, and > prostatitis (inflammation of the prostate), " states the NCCAM's web site. > > Is colloidal silver still in nasal drops? > > No. The FDA banned colloidal silver from all over-the-counter drugs in > 1999. > What about colloidal silver supplements? > > The FDA's 1999 ban on colloidal silver is specifically about > over-the-counter drugs, not dietary supplements. But the FDA has cracked > down on companies selling colloidal silver supplements that claim that the > supplements cure conditions or do other things that drugs do. > > Shao says that colloidal silver -- and colloidal gold and colloidal > titanium > -- " are not legitimate dietary ingredients. They play no role in the diet; > they're not essential in the diet. " But that doesn't mean colloidal silver > hasn't been hawked online. > > " The fact that it's on the Internet -- there's lots of stuff on the > Internet > that maybe shouldn't be, " says Shao. " That's not an indication of FDA's > blessing or lack thereof; it's more of an indication of insufficient > enforcement.e > > _http://www.webmd.http://wwhttp://wwhttp://wwwhttp://www_ > (http://www.webmd.com/news/20080905/colloidal-silver-faq) > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Marjorie Geiser, RD, NSCA-CPT < > _margie@..._ (mailto:margie@...) > wrote: > > > Yea, it's good to still see these types of stories online. > > > > Years ago, I had a personal training client who was ALWAYS looking for > > the 'alternative' cure to everything: Aging, weight loss, aging, > > constipation, wrinkles, aging, aging.... > > And we CONSTANTLY discussed the pros and cons, positives and negatives, > > of all of these things! geesh; it was exhausting. Of course some of her > > ongoing problems really COULD be resolved by diet, but she preferred a > > pill. > > > > Then one day she 'found' the next miracle cure... colloidal silver. She > > didn't have to order it from the internet, but I was able to find a very > > similar story to this one ON the internet, in order to convince her to > > not take this product. It actually worked! > > > > She decided that surgery was easier than exercise... for weight loss > > (abdominoplasty and liposuction) (abdominoplasty and liposuction)<WBR>... > fo > > aging (?)...... I imagine she's actually older (darn how that > > happens!)... but maybe behind the permanent smile, she feels younger. > > However, WITHOUT actually eating a whole, healthy diet and exercising, I > > have my doubts. > > > > Margie > > > > Marjorie Geiser, RD, NSCA-CPT > > " Just Jump: The No-Fear Business Start-up Guide for Health and Fitness > > Professionals " > > _http://www.californhttp://www.califhttp:_ > (http://www.californiabasedpublishing.com/) > > _http://www.meg-http://www.mhtt_ (http://www.meg-enterprises.com/) > > > > > > > > Ortiz wrote: > > > > > > > > > _http://www.telegraphttp://www.tehttp://www.http:/ > /www.tehttp://www.telhttp://www.http://www.tehttp://www.http:/ > /www.thttp://wwwhttp_ > ( > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2687985/Woman-who-turned\ -silver-warns-of- > dangers-of-internet-medicines.html) > > > < > > > _http://www.telegraphttp://www.tehttp://www.http:/ > /www.tehttp://www.telhttp://www.http://www.tehttp://www.http:/ > /www.thttp://wwwhttp_ > ( > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2687985/Woman-who-turned\ -silver-warns-of- > dangers-of-internet-medicines.html) > > > > > > > > > Woman who turned silver warns of dangers of internet medicines > > > > > > -- > > > Ortiz, RD > > > The best vitamin > > > for making friends..... is B1. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > -- > Ortiz, RD > The best vitamin > for making friends..... is B1. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT > Consultant, Writer, Speaker > Director of Medical Nutrition > Signet Diagnostic Corporation > (Mountain Time) > Fax: > DineRight4@... > > Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel > Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity > > IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the > individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information > that is > privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. > If > you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we > do not > consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this > e-mail message. 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