Re: - it's not just doctors!

[Guest guest]

With all the messages about personal experiences, I thought I'd throw in

this one - which I found absolutely appalling.

I'd called my Dr. for a refill on Vicodin. He called me back to let me know

that the pharmacist refused to refill it saying that I was a drug seeker! My

Dr., who's known me for 20 years, asked me what other pharmacy I'd like him to

call the Rx into, and also told me to report the pharmacist and how to do it.

I called the pharmacist, absolutely furious, and asked him just what right

he had to say that, to refuse to fill the prescription, and on what basis he

made that statement. He said that it was a few days early for the refill (it

was a bad month, and sometimes my meds last 6 weeks and sometimes they don't

quite make it a full month); and that there were times when I called in a refill

and didn't have the bottle with the Rx number on it! There were more ridiculous

reasons, and I reminded him that I'd been using that pharmacy for 15 years, and

he knew my entire med history for those 15 years, and there was nothing there to

indicate I was a drug seeker.

He ended up apologizing and said it had been a very busy day and he wasn't

thinking clearly, and had me confused with someone else, and that if I had my

Dr. call again, he'd fill the prescription.

Needless to say, I changed pharmacies.

And I couldn't agree more with your philosophy expressed below!

Dix

Re: [ ] Re: a......Thank You

. . . .

Seems as though many physicians have their ideas and policies about

opioids, but most of them don't focus on or serve the needs of the

patient. . . . .

And, since we haven't had enough controversy around here lately, I'llm say

that I believe that large numbers of physicians who treat

rheumatology patients often DO harm them by neglecting to aggressively treat

their pain. Isn't allowing a patient to suffer harmful to the patient? Isn't

withholding medication that can safely alleviate suffering harmful? . . . .

. . . .Why do the same rheumatologists who freely, and often

carelessly,dispense prednisone, antidepressants, and benzodiazepines single outn

opioids as the class of drugs that can cause " addiction " ? Why can't they even

learn the terminology? Why can't they distinguish between recreational abuse and

physical dependence? Why can't they have a heart?

[Guest guest]

Yes, I'm sorry to say that I've heard stories like that before. Sorry it

happened to you, Dixie.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] - it's not just doctors!

> With all the messages about personal experiences, I thought I'd

throw in this one - which I found absolutely appalling.

> I'd called my Dr. for a refill on Vicodin. He called me back to

let me know that the pharmacist refused to refill it saying that I was a

drug seeker! My Dr., who's known me for 20 years, asked me what other

pharmacy I'd like him to call the Rx into, and also told me to report

the pharmacist and how to do it.

> I called the pharmacist, absolutely furious, and asked him just

what right he had to say that, to refuse to fill the prescription, and

on what basis he made that statement. He said that it was a few days

early for the refill (it was a bad month, and sometimes my meds last 6

weeks and sometimes they don't quite make it a full month); and that

there were times when I called in a refill and didn't have the bottle

with the Rx number on it! There were more ridiculous reasons, and I

reminded him that I'd been using that pharmacy for 15 years, and he knew

my entire med history for those 15 years, and there was nothing there to

indicate I was a drug seeker.

> He ended up apologizing and said it had been a very busy day and

he wasn't thinking clearly, and had me confused with someone else, and

that if I had my Dr. call again, he'd fill the prescription.

> Needless to say, I changed pharmacies.

> And I couldn't agree more with your philosophy expressed below!

> Dix

[Guest guest]

Pain relief--- I knew better, I am a nurse, BUT silly me, I do not know just

where my head was at- (yes I do, I was out of my head from the intensity of

pain)

My rheumy tried sulindec, arthrotec and then I did a month on prednisone and

then MTX. All that time, I was in extreme intense pain- over 2 years- primal

screams, air current in rooms made me scream. I spent 2 years nearly totally

immobile, but he did not Rx anything for pain, led me to believe nothing would

help. Gradually as the pain did lessen as MTX began to work, I finally screamed

at him, and he finally offered me pain meds. UG, the good news is by now, I

have not needed anything for pain in a full month! Barbaric.

- In , " Dixie " <dix7chix@c...> wrote:

> With all the messages about personal experiences, I thought I'd throw in

this one - which I found absolutely appalling.

> I'd called my Dr. for a refill on Vicodin. He called me back to let me

know that the pharmacist refused to refill it saying that I was a drug seeker!

My Dr., who's known me for 20 years, asked me what other pharmacy I'd like him

to call the Rx into, and also told me to report the pharmacist and how to do it.

> I called the pharmacist, absolutely furious, and asked him just what right

he had to say that, to refuse to fill the prescription, and on what basis he

made that statement. He said that it was a few days early for the refill (it

was a bad month, and sometimes my meds last 6 weeks and sometimes they don't

quite make it a full month); and that there were times when I called in a refill

and didn't have the bottle with the Rx number on it! There were more ridiculous

reasons, and I reminded him that I'd been using that pharmacy for 15 years, and

he knew my entire med history for those 15 years, and there was nothing there to

indicate I was a drug seeker.

> He ended up apologizing and said it had been a very busy day and he wasn't

thinking clearly, and had me confused with someone else, and that if I had my

Dr. call again, he'd fill the prescription.

> Needless to say, I changed pharmacies.

> And I couldn't agree more with your philosophy expressed below!

> Dix

> Re: [ ] Re: a......Thank You

>

>

> . . . .

> Seems as though many physicians have their ideas and policies about

> opioids, but most of them don't focus on or serve the needs of the

> patient. . . . .

>

> And, since we haven't had enough controversy around here lately, I'llm say

that I believe that large numbers of physicians who treat

> rheumatology patients often DO harm them by neglecting to aggressively treat

their pain. Isn't allowing a patient to suffer harmful to the patient? Isn't

withholding medication that can safely alleviate suffering harmful? . . . .

>

> . . . .Why do the same rheumatologists who freely, and often

carelessly,dispense prednisone, antidepressants, and benzodiazepines single outn

opioids as the class of drugs that can cause " addiction " ? Why can't they even

learn the terminology? Why can't they distinguish between recreational abuse and

physical dependence? Why can't they have a heart?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dix,

What a terrible experience. It¹s a good think your doctor knows you so well

since a label like this could affect your ability to ever get pain meds.

It¹s shocking that this pharmacist would do this to someone that they¹ve had

a relationship with for so many years and who¹s record is readily available.

I hope your new pharmacy treats you better and the old pharmacist double

checks before making such accusations.

a

> With all the messages about personal experiences, I thought I'd throw in

> this one - which I found absolutely appalling.

> I'd called my Dr. for a refill on Vicodin. He called me back to let me

> know that the pharmacist refused to refill it saying that I was a drug seeker!

> My Dr., who's known me for 20 years, asked me what other pharmacy I'd like him

> to call the Rx into, and also told me to report the pharmacist and how to do >

it.

> I called the pharmacist, absolutely furious, and asked him just what right

> he had to say that, to refuse to fill the prescription, and on what basis he

> made that statement. He said that it was a few days early for the refill (it

> was a bad month, and sometimes my meds last 6 weeks and sometimes they don't

> quite make it a full month); and that there were times when I called in a

> refill and didn't have the bottle with the Rx number on it! There were more

> ridiculous reasons, and I reminded him that I'd been using that pharmacy for

> 15 years, and he knew my entire med history for those 15 years, and there was

> nothing there to indicate I was a drug seeker.

> He ended up apologizing and said it had been a very busy day and he wasn't

> thinking clearly, and had me confused with someone else, and that if I had my

> Dr. call again, he'd fill the prescription.

> Needless to say, I changed pharmacies.

> And I couldn't agree more with your philosophy expressed below!

> Dix