Re: My 5 yr. old grandson's statement about death...

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At 18:41 28/12/2007, you wrote:

My daughter was telling her

little 5 yr. old boy that she will always

love him. " Always, even if I am no longer on earth. "

" No, Mama. You are wrong. I am half Jewish and we don't believe

that. "

" , " my daughter said, " You are not half anything.

You are a

whole person. Your daddy is Jewish and I am Christian. "

" Well, Mama, Grandpa says when you are dead you are dead and you go

into the ground and that is the end of you. "

I used to be a regular on this list but have not been for a while, but

I thought this was something I needed to talk about here. Very

disturbing for a 5 year old to hear this and to believe it.

Help.

Sara

my daughter wrote this when she was five

You can see it as a poem picture on flickr as linked

When I am dead by Holly Owen (aged 5) #52 in explore

When I die

Will you write a poem for me

A little poem to remember

Because I love you

Will you find a hole in the earth

And bury yourself there

To find me

I’ll get buried in a little hole in the earth

Because you could not find me

If I was flying around in the air

Without a body

And I want you to find me

http://flickr.com/photos/wychwood/466088359/in/pool-poetryandpicturesinternational/

Nick Owen

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> Dearest Toni,

>

> What a beautiful message you just sent to me.I am blessed that you

shared your thoughts with me. You shared your Self. Thank you for

that gift.

>

> I am sorry you have had breast cancer, too. I never had any breast

cancer in my family either, so was really surprised when I did. I am

on the hormone Arimidex which gives me arthritis and destroys all

the estrogen my adrenal glands put out - so I struggle with trying to

stay " young and energetic. " ( I am 75!)

>

> I will write more later. Your email gave me lots to think about -

but mostly it gave me HOPE.

>

> Love,

> Sara

>

Dearest Sara -

I am marte and I am 77, and I'm the worst ? " tortoise " ? on this list

as to how to navigate computer posts. Can't figure out what to erase

or how, so as not to clutter up my post. Guess I'd better ? " hop to

it " ? to Yahoo and ? " change my settings " ? :-(, to get posts

individually to my mailprogram. Because I've only just now caught up

with this thread of yours.

I will do that as soon as I can (it's right now pushing midnight, New

Years Day evening, where I live) because there is LOTS I want to

write to you about this thread of yours.

Toni and I know quite a bit, by now, about (from/with) each other

about cancer in the family; I am the ex-wife of an oncologist and

have as best I can or could " watched " ... followed, cared for ...

people through their cancer " deaths and dyings " (as well as

congestive heart failure). [Not ?to mention? about the wisdom and

mystery of children's views!]

Thank you _so_ _much_ for these posts of yours ... this is the first

time I've ? " met you here " ?!

Looking forward especially deeply and gratefully to your further

posts and to (perhaps?) my ability to participate with you.

" love and greetings to all " ,

marte

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Re: My 5 yr. old grandson's statement about death...

Dearest Toni,

What a beautiful message you just sent to me.I am blessed that you shared your thoughts with me. You shared your Self. Thank you for that gift.

I am sorry you have had breast cancer, too. I never had any breast cancer in my family either, so was really surprised when I did. I am on the hormone Arimidex which gives me arthritis and destroys all the estrogen my adrenal glands put out - so I struggle with trying to stay "young and energetic." ( I am 75!)

I will write more later. Your email gave me lots to think about - but mostly it gave me HOPE.

Love,

Sara