Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm just going by what I heard say in person. but some years have gone by and perhaps she says different things now. I could be out of touch but if not then I'll stand by all I've written. Vivian Re: Vivian's posting Hey Vivian, If you really want to know how suggests people do it, ask her - seriously, check out whether people should or shouldn't judge themselves, etc. I don't know what she would say - I would be surprised if she has any hard and fast rule about people should judge others rather than themselves, etc. In my experience I judge myself, others, etc, etc - it happens, I don't have too much say about it :-) And I'm open to being surprised, seriously! Personally, I don't really care who or what people judge, my attachment used to be to the belief that people should inquire, especially people in this group - now I notice that attachment is much reduced, still comes up from time to time, with it's associated stress. Of course, that's the signal that there is something for me to inquire into - I've realized it's not my job to rescue or save others from their stressful thoughts, it's my job to save me from mine and mine alone - at least for the moment, that might change again at some point. Much love and thanks, keep doing your thing, Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1854 - Release Date: 12/17/2008 7:21 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 i notice that BK seems to direct people to initially do the work by judging others. i notice that this is brought up as a point on this site by vivian. i notice that i agree with vivian. i notice no stress ;-) happy holidays to all! lisa Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really love. It will not lead you astray. Rumi Subject: Re: Vivian's posting To: Loving-what-is Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 11:13 AM All I can say to this whole chain is a one-sentence quote from . " I have never experienced a stressful feeling that wasn't caused by attaching to an untrue thought. " Are any of you having stressful thoughts? thinking something should be different than it is? Well if you are, they aren't true. You are being fooled. peace to all, Helen > > I'm just going by what I heard say in person. but some years have gone by and perhaps she says different things now. I could be out of touch but if not then I'll stand by all I've written. > > Vivian > [Loving-what- is] Re: Vivian's posting > > > Hey Vivian, > > If you really want to know how suggests people do it, ask her - > seriously, check out whether people should or shouldn't judge > themselves, etc. > > I don't know what she would say - I would be surprised if she has any > hard and fast rule about people should judge others rather than > themselves, etc. In my experience I judge myself, others, etc, etc - > it happens, I don't have too much say about it :-) > > And I'm open to being surprised, seriously! > > Personally, I don't really care who or what people judge, my > attachment used to be to the belief that people should inquire, > especially people in this group - now I notice that attachment is much > reduced, still comes up from time to time, with it's associated stress. > > Of course, that's the signal that there is something for me to inquire > into - I've realized it's not my job to rescue or save others from > their stressful thoughts, it's my job to save me from mine and mine > alone - at least for the moment, that might change again at some point. > > Much love and thanks, keep doing your thing, > > Jon > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ----------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1854 - Release Date: 12/17/2008 7:21 PM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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