Re: geometric forms in a dream series

June 11, 2012

Hi Eve,

Fascinating dreams. It makes me wonder if each of us have different yet set

'geometries' we have to circumambulate to find our wholeness. Like Archetypes

obviously. I've been running into just symbols in people's dreams lately.

Makes me think we're getting down to some original archetypal energies to be

renewed. Perhaps you've been strengthening the powers of the spiral as you

worked through your life??

I'm sure everyone will direct you to Jung's work on the 3 and the 4 - the

circled squared. It's definitely a level of completion = 7. And balance =

Masculine/Feminine. Grounded wholeness - conscious femininity. You could also

look at how your business is teaching you about wholeness. Perhaps all the

things you're going through are teaching you something you need to learn to pass

on to others.

The eclipses were about letting go of old paradigms and aligning belief and

action. Perhaps you have to stand up for something to do with this court case?

I'm sure there's much more and others here will say it - and better.

>

> For many years I had occasional dreams featuring the same form, a cone with a

helical path going up it. In one dream it might be a mountain I was climbing, in

another a pyramid; sometimes I was halfway up, sometimes at the bottom and more

than once, I reached the top only to find myself at the middle or bottom in the

next manifestation. When I was a child, it was usually a nightmare. I was

walking up holding my mother's hand when the path crumbled and I slid down

helplessly. I think I first reached the top, pulled up the final piece by my

mother reaching down like Michelangelo's God. When I began my degree at

Pacifica, I slogged along in a creek at the foot of a forested hill dragging two

large suitcases until my husband Tom, a few turns of the spiral ahead of me,

took the bags and helped me out of the water. Sometimes I leap straight up and

other times I go round and round. The last time the image arose was about a year

ago.

>

> More recently, however, a new geometric form is coming to me, one with less

obvious symbolism. Perhaps some of you fire-sitters could share your thoughts on

it.

>

> About six months ago, I dreamed that I was in an academic office or a small

classroom in which individual assignments were being given. When it was my turn,

the professor gave me my assignment as an image rather than in words. I was to

put a circle into a square or better yet, a sphere into a cube. It was a bright,

clear dream and I decided that very morning implement it in the work I was doing

at the time, redesigning a retail space to expand our little chocolate shop. I

drew up plans of the rectangular space that included curves and arches, round

edges, every round form I could imagine.

>

> In the same period of time, the same week if not the same day, we received a

cease and desist letter from another Sweet Earth company. Though my husband and

sister-in-law, partners in our chocolate business agreed with out lawyer that

the threat was empty, I was putting time into a deep re-visioning of our

(so-called) retirement business.

>

> Even at the time, the dream seemed bigger than my implementation, but since

the assignment was given to me then, and that was my current work, I figured why

not? The plans, however, were never used. In fact, our little business moved out

of that space altogether and we concentrated our efforts on our original shop a

short distance away.

>

> The dream was so vivid that it seemed to me that I could still complete the

assignment, so I decided to try it more symbolically. I brought my round self

back to our first shop, which has roughly square floor plan. I consciously

added a feminine, nurturing, Mother Earthy energy to the space. It flourished.

Nothing came of the threatened suit.

>

> About a week ago I had another very vivid dream. There was a potluck dinner

going on in a rectangular room a few steps down from the street. As I stepped

into the room, I noticed a beautiful altar set up against the wall to my right.

A large bouquet of flowers sat at its center. At each end were hollow blocks,

like planters, about 2'x2'x2', filled with water. I was glad to see the altar

there and and I lit some incense next to the flowers The meal was very joyous.

My family were there and people from many different parts of my life, my current

employees, old students and teachers, other parents.

>

> My oldest two children, and n, were present as toddlers. n

was about a year old, just walking. Everyone laughed when he got himself covered

in chocolate, and I picked him up and put him into the cube of water closest to

the door. He splashed happily, dunking his head under the water to clean the

chocolate from his face and hair.

>

> I went back to the long table and began picking up the plates that were ours.

Most of the guests had brought their own so there were just a handful. As I went

over to wash them in the water in the cubes, I was pleased to see that the

incense was still burning, but when I came to the cube where I left the baby, I

saw that he had drowned. Only the curve of his little back showed. I screamed,

but when I woke up, I recognized immediately that his back formed part of the

sphere in the cube.

>

> This dream came to between the solar and lunar eclipses. The very same day,

even though we hadn't heard anything since our initial response to the other

company's lawyers, we were served papers informing us that our identity was

again under fire: a full-fledged suit had been filed, one that could not only

force our little company to rebrand but quite possibly put us out of business

altogether.

>

> Now we are considering how or whether to re-conceive and rebrand the business

or to let it go entirely and downsize our outer obligations to something

manageable without an extra source of income. Big decisions, and I've still got

the assignment.

>

> There are two more interesting ingredients to add to the pot. On the day of

the Venus transit last Tuesday, a friend did an energy balancing and reading for

me. She used the I Ching to begin with. I threw the Cauldron (#50) changing to

Great Power (#34).

>

> At this point, I really don't know what to make of the whole sequence of

events. I would like to explore the circle in the square or the sphere in the

cube outside of the story of our little chocolate company, but the timing

reconnects it for me again and again.

>

> The spiral pathway dreams were so obvious. These evoke as powerful a response

in me, but the symbolism eludes me. Any thoughts or comments would be welcome.

>

> warm regards to you all,

> Eve

>

June 13, 2012

Dear Eve, i have written a book on this subject1 THE WEB IN THE SEA: Jung, Sophia, and the Geometry of the Soul, pb. Quest Books.

Briefly - squares/cubes can be measured. circles/spheres cannot because of pi which never comes out .

what can be measured is manifest; what cannot be measured is infinite mystery.

so we have a duality again: matter (fem) holding spirit (masc)

these terms are not limited to gender alone but to creation itself.

from meditating or dreaming about these basics you enter the world of sacred geometry. the ancient Greeks, n Synesius and Hypatia were teachers of this in andria 4th cent AD n Pythagoras, as well n better known.

An empty circle is infinte. Color it white, it contain all colors.

more anon! power outages!

love

ao

Hi Eve,Fascinating dreams. It makes me wonder if each of us have different yet set 'geometries' we have to circumambulate to find our wholeness. Like Archetypes obviously. I've been running into just symbols in people's dreams lately. Makes me think we're getting down to some original archetypal energies to be renewed. Perhaps you've been strengthening the powers of the spiral as you worked through your life??I'm sure everyone will direct you to Jung's work on the 3 and the 4 - the circled squared. It's definitely a level of completion = 7. And balance = Masculine/Feminine. Grounded wholeness - conscious femininity. You could also look at how your business is teaching you about wholeness. Perhaps all the things you're going through are teaching you something you need to learn to pass on to others.The eclipses were about letting go of old paradigms and aligning belief and action. Perhaps you have to stand up for something to do with this court case? I'm sure there's much more and others here will say it - and better. >> For many years I had occasional dreams featuring the same form, a cone with a helical path going up it. In one dream it might be a mountain I was climbing, in another a pyramid; sometimes I was halfway up, sometimes at the bottom and more than once, I reached the top only to find myself at the middle or bottom in the next manifestation. When I was a child, it was usually a nightmare. I was walking up holding my mother's hand when the path crumbled and I slid down helplessly. I think I first reached the top, pulled up the final piece by my mother reaching down like Michelangelo's God. When I began my degree at Pacifica, I slogged along in a creek at the foot of a forested hill dragging two large suitcases until my husband Tom, a few turns of the spiral ahead of me, took the bags and helped me out of the water. Sometimes I leap straight up and other times I go round and round. The last time the image arose was about a year ago.> > More recently, however, a new geometric form is coming to me, one with less obvious symbolism. Perhaps some of you fire-sitters could share your thoughts on it.> > About six months ago, I dreamed that I was in an academic office or a small classroom in which individual assignments were being given. When it was my turn, the professor gave me my assignment as an image rather than in words. I was to put a circle into a square or better yet, a sphere into a cube. It was a bright, clear dream and I decided that very morning implement it in the work I was doing at the time, redesigning a retail space to expand our little chocolate shop. I drew up plans of the rectangular space that included curves and arches, round edges, every round form I could imagine. > > In the same period of time, the same week if not the same day, we received a cease and desist letter from another Sweet Earth company. Though my husband and sister-in-law, partners in our chocolate business agreed with out lawyer that the threat was empty, I was putting time into a deep re-visioning of our (so-called) retirement business.> > Even at the time, the dream seemed bigger than my implementation, but since the assignment was given to me then, and that was my current work, I figured why not? The plans, however, were never used. In fact, our little business moved out of that space altogether and we concentrated our efforts on our original shop a short distance away. > > The dream was so vivid that it seemed to me that I could still complete the assignment, so I decided to try it more symbolically. I brought my round self back to our first shop, which has roughly square floor plan. I consciously added a feminine, nurturing, Mother Earthy energy to the space. It flourished. Nothing came of the threatened suit.> > About a week ago I had another very vivid dream. There was a potluck dinner going on in a rectangular room a few steps down from the street. As I stepped into the room, I noticed a beautiful altar set up against the wall to my right. A large bouquet of flowers sat at its center. At each end were hollow blocks, like planters, about 2'x2'x2', filled with water. I was glad to see the altar there and and I lit some incense next to the flowers The meal was very joyous. My family were there and people from many different parts of my life, my current employees, old students and teachers, other parents. > > My oldest two children, and n, were present as toddlers. n was about a year old, just walking. Everyone laughed when he got himself covered in chocolate, and I picked him up and put him into the cube of water closest to the door. He splashed happily, dunking his head under the water to clean the chocolate from his face and hair.> > I went back to the long table and began picking up the plates that were ours. Most of the guests had brought their own so there were just a handful. As I went over to wash them in the water in the cubes, I was pleased to see that the incense was still burning, but when I came to the cube where I left the baby, I saw that he had drowned. Only the curve of his little back showed. I screamed, but when I woke up, I recognized immediately that his back formed part of the sphere in the cube. > > This dream came to between the solar and lunar eclipses. The very same day, even though we hadn't heard anything since our initial response to the other company's lawyers, we were served papers informing us that our identity was again under fire: a full-fledged suit had been filed, one that could not only force our little company to rebrand but quite possibly put us out of business altogether. > > Now we are considering how or whether to re-conceive and rebrand the business or to let it go entirely and downsize our outer obligations to something manageable without an extra source of income. Big decisions, and I've still got the assignment. > > There are two more interesting ingredients to add to the pot. On the day of the Venus transit last Tuesday, a friend did an energy balancing and reading for me. She used the I Ching to begin with. I threw the Cauldron (#50) changing to Great Power (#34). > > At this point, I really don't know what to make of the whole sequence of events. I would like to explore the circle in the square or the sphere in the cube outside of the story of our little chocolate company, but the timing reconnects it for me again and again. > > The spiral pathway dreams were so obvious. These evoke as powerful a response in me, but the symbolism eludes me. Any thoughts or comments would be welcome.> > warm regards to you all,> Eve>

June 13, 2012

you might also want to look into Madhu Khanna's somewhat exceptional book Yantra: the Tantric Symbol of Cosmic Unity [THAMES & HUDSON 1979]seems to have no ISBN and is very probably out of print now, but can doubtless be found via ABE Books or other such.

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~ Ikkyu

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June 13, 2012

Thanks, . The idea of completion gave me lots of food for thought. At the moment restrictions around the court case don't allow action even though I can imagine lots I'd like to take. I feel a little like the sphere trapped in the cube.Eve

Hi Eve,

Fascinating dreams. It makes me wonder if each of us have different yet set 'geometries' we have to circumambulate to find our wholeness. Like Archetypes obviously. I've been running into just symbols in people's dreams lately. Makes me think we're getting down to some original archetypal energies to be renewed. Perhaps you've been strengthening the powers of the spiral as you worked through your life??

I'm sure everyone will direct you to Jung's work on the 3 and the 4 - the circled squared. It's definitely a level of completion = 7. And balance = Masculine/Feminine. Grounded wholeness - conscious femininity. You could also look at how your business is teaching you about wholeness. Perhaps all the things you're going through are teaching you something you need to learn to pass on to others.

The eclipses were about letting go of old paradigms and aligning belief and action. Perhaps you have to stand up for something to do with this court case?

I'm sure there's much more and others here will say it - and better.

>

> For many years I had occasional dreams featuring the same form, a cone with a helical path going up it. In one dream it might be a mountain I was climbing, in another a pyramid; sometimes I was halfway up, sometimes at the bottom and more than once, I reached the top only to find myself at the middle or bottom in the next manifestation. When I was a child, it was usually a nightmare. I was walking up holding my mother's hand when the path crumbled and I slid down helplessly. I think I first reached the top, pulled up the final piece by my mother reaching down like Michelangelo's God. When I began my degree at Pacifica, I slogged along in a creek at the foot of a forested hill dragging two large suitcases until my husband Tom, a few turns of the spiral ahead of me, took the bags and helped me out of the water. Sometimes I leap straight up and other times I go round and round. The last time the image arose was about a year ago.

>

> More recently, however, a new geometric form is coming to me, one with less obvious symbolism. Perhaps some of you fire-sitters could share your thoughts on it.

>

> About six months ago, I dreamed that I was in an academic office or a small classroom in which individual assignments were being given. When it was my turn, the professor gave me my assignment as an image rather than in words. I was to put a circle into a square or better yet, a sphere into a cube. It was a bright, clear dream and I decided that very morning implement it in the work I was doing at the time, redesigning a retail space to expand our little chocolate shop. I drew up plans of the rectangular space that included curves and arches, round edges, every round form I could imagine.

>

> In the same period of time, the same week if not the same day, we received a cease and desist letter from another Sweet Earth company. Though my husband and sister-in-law, partners in our chocolate business agreed with out lawyer that the threat was empty, I was putting time into a deep re-visioning of our (so-called) retirement business.

>

> Even at the time, the dream seemed bigger than my implementation, but since the assignment was given to me then, and that was my current work, I figured why not? The plans, however, were never used. In fact, our little business moved out of that space altogether and we concentrated our efforts on our original shop a short distance away.

>

> The dream was so vivid that it seemed to me that I could still complete the assignment, so I decided to try it more symbolically. I brought my round self back to our first shop, which has roughly square floor plan. I consciously added a feminine, nurturing, Mother Earthy energy to the space. It flourished. Nothing came of the threatened suit.

>

> About a week ago I had another very vivid dream. There was a potluck dinner going on in a rectangular room a few steps down from the street. As I stepped into the room, I noticed a beautiful altar set up against the wall to my right. A large bouquet of flowers sat at its center. At each end were hollow blocks, like planters, about 2'x2'x2', filled with water. I was glad to see the altar there and and I lit some incense next to the flowers The meal was very joyous. My family were there and people from many different parts of my life, my current employees, old students and teachers, other parents.

>

> My oldest two children, and n, were present as toddlers. n was about a year old, just walking. Everyone laughed when he got himself covered in chocolate, and I picked him up and put him into the cube of water closest to the door. He splashed happily, dunking his head under the water to clean the chocolate from his face and hair.

>

> I went back to the long table and began picking up the plates that were ours. Most of the guests had brought their own so there were just a handful. As I went over to wash them in the water in the cubes, I was pleased to see that the incense was still burning, but when I came to the cube where I left the baby, I saw that he had drowned. Only the curve of his little back showed. I screamed, but when I woke up, I recognized immediately that his back formed part of the sphere in the cube.

>

> This dream came to between the solar and lunar eclipses. The very same day, even though we hadn't heard anything since our initial response to the other company's lawyers, we were served papers informing us that our identity was again under fire: a full-fledged suit had been filed, one that could not only force our little company to rebrand but quite possibly put us out of business altogether.

>

> Now we are considering how or whether to re-conceive and rebrand the business or to let it go entirely and downsize our outer obligations to something manageable without an extra source of income. Big decisions, and I've still got the assignment.

>

> There are two more interesting ingredients to add to the pot. On the day of the Venus transit last Tuesday, a friend did an energy balancing and reading for me. She used the I Ching to begin with. I threw the Cauldron (#50) changing to Great Power (#34).

>

> At this point, I really don't know what to make of the whole sequence of events. I would like to explore the circle in the square or the sphere in the cube outside of the story of our little chocolate company, but the timing reconnects it for me again and again.

>

> The spiral pathway dreams were so obvious. These evoke as powerful a response in me, but the symbolism eludes me. Any thoughts or comments would be welcome.

>

> warm regards to you all,

> Eve

>

June 13, 2012

Dear Alice,Sorry, you are having power outages. Something in the stars: our dishwasher is broken, as is the Cadillac, our faithful refrigerated case at the shop. We pack it with ice each morning and night, like and old icebox.Your summary is already so helpful. The assignment to put the sphere into the cube is the same as your essential message, to see the sacred in the commonplace, and Ganesh Baba's, to spiritualize the secular. I think I was seeing the circle or sphere as something manifest, the curves in the design, my round self in the store; rather than something immeasurable. The assignment, then, is to put something immeasurable into something measurable. (I love that root of the Sanskrit word maya means "to measure"). The current state of affairs, i.e, the dream I think I am living now, my story about our little business losing its identity, can be interpreted like a dream too, but it's one in which I can take conscious action if I choose. At the moment however, circumstances, legal and otherwise, advise watching and waiting. We're pregnant with opportunity: to rebrand, to rethink our intent and vision for the business, for the three of us who are partners in this venture to take our relationship to a new level. Right now, though, contemplating the mystery of the interplay of the finite and the infinite is enough.Thank you.love to you always,Eve

Dear Eve, i have written a book on this subject1 THE WEB IN THE SEA: Jung, Sophia, and the Geometry of the Soul, pb. Quest Books.

Briefly - squares/cubes can be measured. circles/spheres cannot because of pi which never comes out .

what can be measured is manifest; what cannot be measured is infinite mystery.

so we have a duality again: matter (fem) holding spirit (masc)

these terms are not limited to gender alone but to creation itself.

from meditating or dreaming about these basics you enter the world of sacred geometry. the ancient Greeks, n Synesius and Hypatia were teachers of this in andria 4th cent AD n Pythagoras, as well n better known.

An empty circle is infinte. Color it white, it contain all colors.

more anon! power outages!

love

ao

Hi Eve,Fascinating dreams. It makes me wonder if each of us have different yet set 'geometries' we have to circumambulate to find our wholeness. Like Archetypes obviously. I've been running into just symbols in people's dreams lately. Makes me think we're getting down to some original archetypal energies to be renewed. Perhaps you've been strengthening the powers of the spiral as you worked through your life??I'm sure everyone will direct you to Jung's work on the 3 and the 4 - the circled squared. It's definitely a level of completion = 7. And balance = Masculine/Feminine. Grounded wholeness - conscious femininity. You could also look at how your business is teaching you about wholeness. Perhaps all the things you're going through are teaching you something you need to learn to pass on to others.The eclipses were about letting go of old paradigms and aligning belief and action. Perhaps you have to stand up for something to do with this court case? I'm sure there's much more and others here will say it - and better. >> For many years I had occasional dreams featuring the same form, a cone with a helical path going up it. In one dream it might be a mountain I was climbing, in another a pyramid; sometimes I was halfway up, sometimes at the bottom and more than once, I reached the top only to find myself at the middle or bottom in the next manifestation. When I was a child, it was usually a nightmare. I was walking up holding my mother's hand when the path crumbled and I slid down helplessly. I think I first reached the top, pulled up the final piece by my mother reaching down like Michelangelo's God. When I began my degree at Pacifica, I slogged along in a creek at the foot of a forested hill dragging two large suitcases until my husband Tom, a few turns of the spiral ahead of me, took the bags and helped me out of the water. Sometimes I leap straight up and other times I go round and round. The last time the image arose was about a year ago.> > More recently, however, a new geometric form is coming to me, one with less obvious symbolism. Perhaps some of you fire-sitters could share your thoughts on it.> > About six months ago, I dreamed that I was in an academic office or a small classroom in which individual assignments were being given. When it was my turn, the professor gave me my assignment as an image rather than in words. I was to put a circle into a square or better yet, a sphere into a cube. It was a bright, clear dream and I decided that very morning implement it in the work I was doing at the time, redesigning a retail space to expand our little chocolate shop. I drew up plans of the rectangular space that included curves and arches, round edges, every round form I could imagine. > > In the same period of time, the same week if not the same day, we received a cease and desist letter from another Sweet Earth company. Though my husband and sister-in-law, partners in our chocolate business agreed with out lawyer that the threat was empty, I was putting time into a deep re-visioning of our (so-called) retirement business.> > Even at the time, the dream seemed bigger than my implementation, but since the assignment was given to me then, and that was my current work, I figured why not? The plans, however, were never used. In fact, our little business moved out of that space altogether and we concentrated our efforts on our original shop a short distance away. > > The dream was so vivid that it seemed to me that I could still complete the assignment, so I decided to try it more symbolically. I brought my round self back to our first shop, which has roughly square floor plan. I consciously added a feminine, nurturing, Mother Earthy energy to the space. It flourished. Nothing came of the threatened suit.> > About a week ago I had another very vivid dream. There was a potluck dinner going on in a rectangular room a few steps down from the street. As I stepped into the room, I noticed a beautiful altar set up against the wall to my right. A large bouquet of flowers sat at its center. At each end were hollow blocks, like planters, about 2'x2'x2', filled with water. I was glad to see the altar there and and I lit some incense next to the flowers The meal was very joyous. My family were there and people from many different parts of my life, my current employees, old students and teachers, other parents. > > My oldest two children, and n, were present as toddlers. n was about a year old, just walking. Everyone laughed when he got himself covered in chocolate, and I picked him up and put him into the cube of water closest to the door. He splashed happily, dunking his head under the water to clean the chocolate from his face and hair.> > I went back to the long table and began picking up the plates that were ours. Most of the guests had brought their own so there were just a handful. As I went over to wash them in the water in the cubes, I was pleased to see that the incense was still burning, but when I came to the cube where I left the baby, I saw that he had drowned. Only the curve of his little back showed. I screamed, but when I woke up, I recognized immediately that his back formed part of the sphere in the cube. > > This dream came to between the solar and lunar eclipses. The very same day, even though we hadn't heard anything since our initial response to the other company's lawyers, we were served papers informing us that our identity was again under fire: a full-fledged suit had been filed, one that could not only force our little company to rebrand but quite possibly put us out of business altogether. > > Now we are considering how or whether to re-conceive and rebrand the business or to let it go entirely and downsize our outer obligations to something manageable without an extra source of income. Big decisions, and I've still got the assignment. > > There are two more interesting ingredients to add to the pot. On the day of the Venus transit last Tuesday, a friend did an energy balancing and reading for me. She used the I Ching to begin with. I threw the Cauldron (#50) changing to Great Power (#34). > > At this point, I really don't know what to make of the whole sequence of events. I would like to explore the circle in the square or the sphere in the cube outside of the story of our little chocolate company, but the timing reconnects it for me again and again. > > The spiral pathway dreams were so obvious. These evoke as powerful a response in me, but the symbolism eludes me. Any thoughts or comments would be welcome.> > warm regards to you all,> Eve>

June 13, 2012

Just ordered it. I love that Thames and Hudson series.Thanks!eve

you might also want to look into Madhu Khanna's somewhat exceptional book Yantra: the Tantric Symbol of Cosmic Unity [THAMES & HUDSON 1979]seems to have no ISBN and is very probably out of print now, but can doubtless be found via ABE Books or other such.

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nowhere else

~ Ikkyu

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June 13, 2012

ha!. -_- .

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June 16, 2012

Eve.

Speaking of synchronicity, on the way home on the evening I

read about your dreams, I was listening

to an audio book. In the story an

Indian and a white man are high in the mountains of Wyoming trying to survive a blizzard. The Indian is reading passages from Danteâ€™s

Inferno when he stops to reminisce about a memory from childhood. He says, â€œIt is a motherâ€™s job to round off

the edges of reality.â€ I didnâ€™t have

time during the week to respond to your post, but a few thoughts came to mind

about your potluck dinner dream. The

fact that the party took place a few steps down from the bustle of street would

seem to suggest a retreat from the everyday affairs of survival. Your friends and family make up this

retreat. The fact that everyone

contributed to the meal seems to suggest that everyone is viewed as equal on

this level. But aside from the retreat

of friends and family is your retreat into the world of the spirit symbolized by

the altar which you enter alone. There

is beauty there (flowers) and the lighting of the incense, turning solid into

smoke that drifts up into the ether, further symbolizes entering the world of the

spirit. You return to your friends and

family and there is your baby, your chocolate store (baby covered in chocolate)

to deal with. Youâ€™d like to incorporate

this troubling part of your reality into your spiritual life (or visa versa),

but it must be purified before they can merge.

The troubles must be washed away.

Once again you seek retreat into the spiritual (happy to see the incense

still burning). You turn to see that

while your attention is on the spiritual, your baby (the chocolate store) has

died. Youâ€™re horrified, yet upon waking,

you see that letting go of the troubles of the chocolate store serves to round

the harsh corners of reality into the spirit (the sphere).

Of course only your own feeling towards the objects and

people in your dream can serve to translate, but at least at least some of

the symbolism seemed universal in nature and sucked me in.

Hope everything goes well for you. I recently tried to start my own business and it became a game of chicken about how

close I was willing to get to being absolutely

broke. I finally chickened out. Iâ€™ll never know if it was a was a good decision

or bad to let my baby die.

Thawstone

June 17, 2012

Just an observation:

>About six months ago, I dreamed that I was in an academic office or a small

>classroom in which individual assignments were being given. When it was my

turn,

>the professor gave me my assignment as an image rather than in words. I was to

>put a circle into a square or better yet, a sphere into a cube. It was a

bright,

>clear dream and I decided that very morning implement it in the work I was

doing

>at the time, redesigning a retail space to expand our little chocolate shop. I

>drew up plans of the rectangular space that included curves and arches, round

>edges, every round form I could imagine.

" Squaring the circle " is a very important problem of classical mathematics,

which could

not technically have been solved before the discovery of the Pi ratio. It's

interesting that

your earlier dreams sometimes featured a pyramid, because the pyramid is

considered

a solution to the problem among many modern students of " sacred geometry " . Which

leads to symbolic systems in which the Great Pyramid is a representation of the

Earth,

and then off into all sorts of further elaborations. Whether the

educated/initiated among

the ancients also considered it a solution to the problem, and also held the

other views

now ascribed to them by modern imitators is now impossible to say since they

kept nearly

all of their secrets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle

June 19, 2012

Jung says that " The goal of psychic development is the Self. There is no linear

evolution; there is only a circumambulation of the Self " (Memories, Dreams,

Reflections).

We tend to think of advancement as achieving something, such as a good career,

or a beautiful house. This is the linear and worldly perspective. But

circumambulation means that you are getting nowhere from a linear point of view.

From the perspective of spiritual advancement, this is perfectly fine, i.e., to

remain still, but advance upwards.

According to the alchemist Gerhard Dorn " Our vessel ... should be made according

to true geometrical proportion and measure, and by a kind of squaring of the

circle " (Theat. Chem. I, 1659).

The vessel is a central symbol in alchemy, the key to the whole operation. In

it, the elements are sealed off from the outside world, there to undergo

transformation. The squaring of the circle would mean that an unconscious and

undifferentiated wholeness (the circle) is superceded by a differentiated and

more conscious wholeness. It could mean that life achieves a more conscious

direction, a conscious path that harmonizes with the unconscious. A circular

wholeness is differentiatated into a quaternity.

It squares with the upwards spiral as the achievement of spiritual

consciousness, and the realization of the superiority of spiral wholeness. The

spiral has, since ancient times, been a symbol of the womb, which is the vessel.

To reach the top of the mountain is, I suggest, to attain consciousness of the

principle of the vessel. The theme of the alchemical vessel is to seal off the

transforming substance from the outside world. The vessel is created according

to the principle of squaring. The alchemist realizes the principle of

containment in the womb.

In order to abstain from the linear path of the world, it is necessary to " seal

off " and contain one's energy, and withdraw from diverse engagements. The spirit

is contained in the alchemical vessel, there to undergo tranformation into the

alchemical gold. The following is an early dream of mine, perhaps from my 21st

year, about the alchemical vessel in the form of a saucepan:

" I was in a little red country cottage together with my mother and father. I

felt very alive and had an intense feeling that I belonged in this place with

its lush garden. We boiled an egg in a stainless steel pan. I was about to

witness a mystery. After a while the yolk broke through the shell and it was

intensely golden yellow. It was wonderful and made me elated. But I went outside

to see what was behind the hedge in the garden. To my surprise there was a noisy

highway there with many cars rushing by, and I could feel the exhaust fumes. "

In this dream we can observe the dichotomy of the spiritual path versus the

demands of outer life represented by the noisy stinking highway. The alchemical

path is represented by the prima materia as the egg, and the gold of the

philosophers that emerges as the yolk, as a little sun. The little cottage, in

itself, is nothing but the alchemical vessel, in which I am to reside,

out-of-the-way of the onrush of the world.

Mats Winther

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