Warning: animal cruelty: Re: What if it is hard to imagine yourself not believin

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Hi Hanle,

Thanks for posting this - so here's a few thoughts - keep going and do

the turnarounds - and rather than using " I " , use " 6 year old Hanle " .

6 year old Hanle should not have saved the kittens

Why might it be better that she didn't save them - for her and them?

I should have saved / save 6 year old Hanle

How is this true?

I also hear that your mother was kind and compassionate - she heard

you screaming and asked for you to be taken away from this - to save

you from it.

Also, other suggestions are:

1. Do a worksheet on the family members - what you thought of them, etc.

2. Write out your beliefs about the kittens, including 'they were

begging for help " , " they suffered " , " they needed rescued " , etc.

3. Do a worksheet on " 6 year old Hanle " , maybe including what stopped

6 year old Hanle saving the kittens - any beliefs about what might

have happened, etc.

Lastly, just a noticing - Hanle was 6 years old and you are making up

that it would have been better for the kittens if they had lived. I'm

not saying this is untrue, but can you absolutely know that it is

true, that it would have been better for the kittens if they had lived?

Great work Hanle - just keep noticing those emotions and what's behind

them.

With love,

Jon x

> >>

> >> Hi Hanle,

> >>

> >> My suggestion is not to try and force it - without knowing the

thought

> >> you are working on, it's tricky to go further than that - I notice if

> >> I try to imagine it too hard it doesn't work, that being softer with

> >> it works better, even if I can lift it 10%.

> >>

> >> It will work in it's own time and not before - the belief that you

> >> want to be free of it, for example, could be inquired into.

> >>

> >> And, of course, just keep going with the process to the turnarounds -

> >> sometimes I find they bring new insights for question 4.

> >>

> >> If you feel able to, why not post the inquiry here for feedback? And

> >> if you don't feel able, or it feels stressful, maybe check out what

> >> you make up will happen if you post it here.

> >>

> >> With love,

> >>

> >> Jon

> >>

> >> >

> >> > Hi

> >> > Something came up for me to do the work on that happened when I was

> >> 6 (43

> >> > years ago). I have done some therapy on it in the past and thought

> >> it has

> >> > been worked through. Apparently not.

> >> >

> >> > Without going into details, what do you do if you find it almost

> >> impossible

> >> > to imagine yourself without the thought yu are believing in? I was

> >> back to

> >> > being 6 and at the scene and for a long time could not get

myself to

> >> imagine

> >> > what I would be there, on the scene, without the thought. Should I

> >> come back

> >> > to today and imagine it? There is a lot of guilt associated

with the

> >> > incident, even though I can totally see with my rational thoughts I

> >> could do

> >> > nothing to help.

> >> >

> >> > I still get tearful about it. I think there are so many beliefs I

> >> have today

> >> > coming from that one incident that I would really like to be free

> > of it.

> >> >

> >> > Any suggestions?

> >> > Thanks

> >> > Hanle

> >> >

> >>

> >

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