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Every once in awhile one of my patients will come in only for tooth pain,

because they don't have a dentist. I was always told that we will only get paid

if we code for tooth abscess, not tooth pain (that's what we always did at the

urgent care and it worked.)

I just billed Medicare using 522.5 (periapical abscess without sinus) and it

came back " this service is not covered... " . Anyone know if there's a better code

to use to get paid?

I really try not to see people for this, but on the rare occasion it's needed

I'm going to have them sign an ABN first from now on. I'd like to get paid from

this recent visit, though. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Gretchen

Gretchen Reis MD

Wellspring Family Medicine

1171 N Court St

Circleville, OH

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Where do you source the fluoride treatment materials? thanks, Ben To: Sent:

Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Coding for dental issue

caries 521.0 ? dental disease is huge here Dental issues are the top er issue(Of issues that go to er and should go to an office) mediciad folks mostly so medicaid will pay for that code Also pays me to do fluoride treaments in kids- cost 1.00 ,get paid 12.00, add it to wcc)

not sure about the other insurers.BestJean

If they have associated lymphadenopathy with their tooth pain, I might code that lymphadenitis.

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Subject: Coding for dental issue

Every once in awhile one of my patients will come in only for tooth pain, because they don't have a dentist. I was always told that we will only get paid if we code for tooth abscess, not tooth pain (that's what we always did at the urgent care and it worked.)

I just billed Medicare using 522.5 (periapical abscess without sinus) and it came back "this service is not covered...". Anyone know if there's a better code to use to get paid?

I really try not to see people for this, but on the rare occasion it's needed I'm going to have them sign an ABN first from now on. I'd like to get paid from this recent visit, though. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Gretchen

Gretchen Reis MD

Wellspring Family Medicine

1171 N Court St

Circleville, OH

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I use varnish america I got " trained " at  an AAFp mtg 2-3 yrs ago--does not take much  MaineCAre here really encourages it becasue you help kids who cannot get to a dentist also  cavity shield or

 others  www. kohp.org v72.2 dental exam without without physical exam( maine care tells  me touse  that) and 521.09 caries unspecified if caries is  presnet or  just v20.2 and in section 24 of the hcfa 24 D is D1206 and I charge 12.00 becasue that is what maine care pays

 Ihave an oocasional  blue cross fmaily that I charge 24.00 for The stuff paints on and tastes like bubble gum

 

Where do you source the fluoride treatment materials? thanks,

Ben

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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Coding for dental issue

 

caries  521.0  ? dental disease is huge here Dental issues are  the top er issue(Of issues that go to er and should go to an office) mediciad  folks mostly   so medicaid will pay for that code Also pays me to do  fluoride treaments in kids- cost 1.00 ,get  paid  12.00, add it to  wcc)

 not sure about the  other insurers.BestJean

 

If they have associated lymphadenopathy with their tooth pain, I might code that lymphadenitis.

To: Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:37 AM

Subject: Coding for dental issue

 

Every once in awhile one of my patients will come in only for tooth pain, because they don't have a dentist. I was always told that we will only get paid if we code for tooth abscess, not tooth pain (that's what we always did at the urgent care and it worked.)

I just billed Medicare using 522.5 (periapical abscess without sinus) and it came back " this service is not covered... " . Anyone know if there's a better code to use to get paid?

I really try not to see people for this, but on the rare occasion it's needed I'm going to have them sign an ABN first from now on. I'd like to get paid from this recent visit, though. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Gretchen

Gretchen Reis MD

Wellspring Family Medicine

1171 N Court St

Circleville, OH

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Gretchen, this happened to me, too. We called Medicare and were told they do not

pay for anything to do with teeth. So now I treat things like " jaw pain " 784.92,

" other acute pain " 338.19, or " atypical face pain " 350.2. Gee, I wonder what

" typical face pain " is? I haven't had trouble over this with any other

payers.---Sharlene

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> Every once in awhile one of my patients will come in only for tooth pain,

because they don't have a dentist. I was always told that we will only get paid

if we code for tooth abscess, not tooth pain (that's what we always did at the

urgent care and it worked.)

>

> I just billed Medicare using 522.5 (periapical abscess without sinus) and it

came back " this service is not covered... " . Anyone know if there's a better code

to use to get paid?

>

> I really try not to see people for this, but on the rare occasion it's needed

I'm going to have them sign an ABN first from now on. I'd like to get paid from

this recent visit, though. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

>

> Gretchen

>

> Gretchen Reis MD

> Wellspring Family Medicine

> 1171 N Court St

> Circleville, OH

>

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