Re: Re: confusing emotions, difficult to question

[Guest guest]

Lacey thank you for asking - I suppose getting those things clear is part of

clarifying what thoughts to question, right?

Well, I have projected this panic and fear in many ways. At the beginning of our

relationship, I was concerned about loyalty because we had not built trust yet.

After seeing that sexual or other infidelities and disloyalties were not likely,

what happened? Well the panic stayed anyway! Sometimes it shifted blame around

to different things.

At that point I was very clear that my problems were about my own thoughts and

needed to be questions because even when the outer situation changed, the panic

remained.

Thank you again...

L

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To: Loving-what-is

Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:34 PM

Subject: Re: confusing emotions, difficult to question

 

I am not clear about the the problem, are you afraid of being alone or is it a

loyalty issue that is the problem?

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> Recently, I joined this group and look forward to doing more Work with you in

the future. Its something that is changing my life for the better, although it

did take me some time before I really was moving with it and understanding it

well enough to use it.

>

> At the moment I am hitting another snag and wondering if any of you have any

suggestion:

>

> I have a habit of having a kind of hellish panic at night when my partner is

out of the house until 1 or 2 in the morning. Its not his fault and so I don't

want to stop him. I am trying to get at the best sort of thoughts to work on but

the panic is so intense that I can't seem to locate any two or three thoughts

that are really powerful enough to put a dent in this.

>

> I have thought of questioning the thought 'I panic when my partner is not with

me at night' as a starting point. Its not an obvious one, but maybe it would

help even to question that....

>

> Any other ideas???

>

> Peace,

>

> Logan

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOVE IT -- Thank you

Ossie

via Triumph

Jesch wrote:

>Hi Logan,

>

>Here is one approach that might yield

>some helpul results -

>

>Try sitting down at your computer and

>just writing down your one-liners, in

>a kind of meditative free-flowing zone.

>

>Let your internal voices speak in the

>process - say to your internal

> " Controller " - May I please hear the

>voice of the Wounded Child? and then

>shift your body a bit, allowing your

>WC's voice to come out -

>

>That voice may want to express itself

>with " should " statements and judgements,

>which you can capture. Look at your

> " Judge Your Neighbor " worksheet and

>allow the WC to fill it out. Let the

>voice of that self or any other voice

>emerge without censorship or restraint.

>

>To learn more about this process, you

>can search Genpo Roshi and " Big Mind "

>on Google. It's an easy process to

>learn with his videos and is helpful

>when tied to the process of inquiry.

>

>The summary is that we often stuff

>down and disown emotions of pain,

>anger and fear, and then try to

>control them. You have a great

>opportunity here to just allow them

>to drop by for a visit and then leave,

>like trick-or-treaters on Halloween.

>The Work has always revealed the false

>beliefs behind these stressful thoughts

>and shown what is true or truer. You

>can trust that. Approach with curiosity,

>and hold them lightly.

>

>Good luck,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Logan,

Just a thought: it might be interesting and hopefully helpful to do a worksheet

on panic attacks. But point outwards. For example I hate panic attacks because

as opposed to I hate my panic attacks or I hate having a panic attack. It's

important to point outwards.

There is a chance to learn some interesting things about your panic attacks and

how you really feel about them.

Good luck whether or not you choose this path.

Vivian

Re: confusing emotions, difficult to question

I am not clear about the the problem, are you afraid of being alone or is it a

loyalty issue that is the problem?

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> Recently, I joined this group and look forward to doing more Work with you

in the future. Its something that is changing my life for the better, although

it did take me some time before I really was moving with it and understanding it

well enough to use it.

>

> At the moment I am hitting another snag and wondering if any of you have any

suggestion:

>

> I have a habit of having a kind of hellish panic at night when my partner is

out of the house until 1 or 2 in the morning. Its not his fault and so I don't

want to stop him. I am trying to get at the best sort of thoughts to work on but

the panic is so intense that I can't seem to locate any two or three thoughts

that are really powerful enough to put a dent in this.

>

> I have thought of questioning the thought 'I panic when my partner is not

with me at night' as a starting point. Its not an obvious one, but maybe it

would help even to question that....

>

> Any other ideas???

>

> Peace,

>

> Logan

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

There are so many great pieces of adivce here. I am familiar with Genpo Roshi's

big mind, big heart but was not aware that he had suggestions on this kind of

thing. When I ahve touched into this inner child voice before its certainly very

very upset. But as you say, it can 'drop in for a visit'. :-)

Thank you very much!

Logan

________________________________

To: Loving-what-is

Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:12 PM

Subject: Re: confusing emotions, difficult to question

 

Hi Logan,

Here is one approach that might yield

some helpul results -

Try sitting down at your computer and

just writing down your one-liners, in

a kind of meditative free-flowing zone.

Let your internal voices speak in the

process - say to your internal

" Controller " - May I please hear the

voice of the Wounded Child? and then

shift your body a bit, allowing your

WC's voice to come out -

That voice may want to express itself

with " should " statements and judgements,

which you can capture. Look at your

" Judge Your Neighbor " worksheet and

allow the WC to fill it out. Let the

voice of that self or any other voice

emerge without censorship or restraint.

To learn more about this process, you

can search Genpo Roshi and " Big Mind "

on Google. It's an easy process to

learn with his videos and is helpful

when tied to the process of inquiry.

The summary is that we often stuff

down and disown emotions of pain,

anger and fear, and then try to

control them. You have a great

opportunity here to just allow them

to drop by for a visit and then leave,

like trick-or-treaters on Halloween.

The Work has always revealed the false

beliefs behind these stressful thoughts

and shown what is true or truer. You

can trust that. Approach with curiosity,

and hold them lightly.

Good luck,