Guest guest Posted December 20, 1999 Report Share Posted December 20, 1999 Well the only way that you could get the public to demand higher level of care just for EMS, is public education. Good Questions, but who really has the answers. > >Reply-To: egroups >To: <egroups> >Subject: [texasems-L] Re: EMS Pay >Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:17:30 -0600 > >That's an excellent point, Ben. But what about the areas where the >citizens >don't feel strongly enough to demand anything? Will that still benefit the >profession? What if the service is provided by the city or county? Do you >feel that the same pressure from the citizens will override budget concerns >and re-elections? > >I'd just bet some of my hard-earned money that hospitals would suffice with >LVNs if the rules and legislation did not mandate RNs for certain >functions. >That is, unless they could get qualified RNs to work for the same money. > >Tom > > [texasems-L] Re: EMS Pay > > > > > >If this is a repeat - sorry - I am having trouble sending > >emails to this list server at times - probably to y'alls > >benefit... > > > >Education is definitely a way to improve yourself and it > >is essential to asking for more pay... but there are some > >simple economics that apply to the picture that only seem > >to pop up in a couple of emails... > > > >Maybe we need to add Econ 101 to the objectives... > > > >The basic concept here is: > > > >The law of supply and demand. > > > >The basic concept is - > > > >If you have more supply than demand - the pay is lower > >If you have more demand than supply - the pay is higher. > > > >I don't know if this is still the case - but years ago, > >American Medical schools kept a close eye on the need for > >physicians in the " Market " and kept the " Supply " low in > >order to maintain a strong " Demand " . Lots of industries > >can show (including Nursing, MD's, etc) that when there > >was an abundance of skilled / educated workers available- > >the wages dropped. How many PHD level people have you seen > >mowing lawns or flippin burgers - I have seen many a co- > >worker with 8-10 years of college working at minimum wages- > >because the " Market " dropped out from under them. > > > >A comment in an earlier email - sorry for no credits - > >I have a heavy delete button finger... made the statement that > >if we increase the requirements for Paramedics - then fewer > >would make it and the pay might go up. This is true if the > >demand is seen for those remaining. When Fire Departments, > >Commercial EMS services, and those paying the bills have to > >compete for quality people - (If they really want quality > >people) then- you will see wages go up. If a medic with > >the minimum 400 hours will be willing to work for $8/hour > >and there are enough to fill the positions - you will never > >see a pay raise.... Hard for an employer to justify that. > > > >So you either make your value desirable (the education part) > >or reduce the supply - or increase the market... then wages > >will go up. > > > >Sorry for being long winded - and brining another non-related > >science into the picture (another one of those durn classes > >you shouldn't have to take - although I really enjoyed my > >3 semester of economics that I took and forgot most of. Helped > >me understand why So many of my compadre's and my self have had > >to endure the many reduction cycles in our real jobs) > > > > > >WHCEMS > > > > > > > > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > > > > > >Same way you get to Carnegie Hall, practice, baby, practice. > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Want to send money instantly to anyone, anywhere, anytime? You can today >at > >X.com - and we'll give you $20 to try it! Sign up today at X.com. It's > >quick, free, & there's no obligation! > >http://click./1/332/3/_/4981/_/945637859 > > > >-- Talk to your group with your own voice! > >-- /VoiceChatPage?listName= & m=1 > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Want to send money instantly to anyone, anywhere, anytime? > >You can today at X.com - and we'll give you $20 to try it! Sign > >up today at X.com. 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