Re: G. Gandy's comments on EMS Education Rule

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I have to agree with you on this one also when it comes to the time

people spend on taking all of these EMS classes to help their community and

are having to work all day, go to class two nights a week and then having to

drive an hr or two in order to do this. Without the the rural based

classes, there are alot of rural services that would not have a service,

because as you stated, most jr college are not going to take the time to

offer these classes off of their campus.

Gene, how many classes does your school offer off campus? Basic,

Intermediate & Paramedic? Maybe a few basic and intermediate, but probably

not one paramedic class is offered off campus.

I'm sorry to say, but you have opened a BIG can of worms on this one.

Granted, it is now going to take longer to teach the paramedic course once

everything is approved, but will that get ride of the " patch factory " type

courses...probably not.

When all of the rural ALS coordinators are out of business, are you as a

college and other colleges going to pick up the slack and got to these rural

departments and teach there classes? Maybe, if it is in the budget?

Dr. Doug , DO/EMT-P

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:29:26 PST, egroups wrote:

>

> Gene:

>

> I don't think that just because a class is not taught by a " college " that

it

> is substandard. Community Colleges, pushing for a two year associates

> degree, are dropping the ball when it comes to rural EMS education. Who

can

> go to college for two years, only to return to their community to

volunteer

> with their local EMS? There is a great need for rural EMS education

> programs which stress quality education and that are time efficient.

>

> In fact, if you want to find dedication, look at rural EMS education

> programs. When is the last time you loaded up your car and drove for 2

> hours to teach class for 4 hours and then drive back home for 2 hours.

This

> of course is after working your regular 8 hour day.

>

> If you don't think there is a problem with attending a rural Intermediate

or

> Paramedic class, you need to talk to the EMT's who are stuck at the Basic

> level because they cannot devote two years to attend one of the " super

> courses " offered by a Jr. college.

>

> The only " slap in the face " comes to rural communities if the EMS

Education

> Rule passes and advancing to ALS requires Jr. College participation.

>

> Of course, maybe your college devotes substantial resources to rural

> education. Let's hear how many advanced courses are taught off-campus.

In

> fact, if we want to look at the rule, let's make it mandatory that

advanced

> courses are taught off-campus in remote locations.

>

>

> Perkins, BS, LP, I/E

>

>

>

> >From: WEGandy@...

> >Reply-To: egroups

> >To: EMSEAT@..., egroups

> >Subject: [texasems-L] EMS Education Rule

> >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:05:10 EST

> >

> >

> >I am shocked and appalled to hear that TDH has pulled the EMS Education

> >Rule

> >from consideration of the Advisory Committee if that is, in fact the

case.

> >

> >If true, this is an intolerable slap in the face of every serious EMS

> >educator in the State of Texas as well as the people of the State of

Texas

> >who rely on EMS.

> >

> >Will someone from TDH please reply and clarify the situation?

> >

> >If the DOT NS Paramedic Protocols are not adopted, it will leave us with

a

> >situation where the colleges are teaching a quality program but others

can

> >continue teaching substandard courses.

> >

> >Do we not have the guts in the greatest State in the Union, with the

best

> >overall EMS systems, to meet the challenge of becoming even better?

> >

> >Who's responsible for this? The Fire Departments?

> >

> >Gene Gandy, JD, LP

> >

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