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probably could be a lot of factors.. so i dont know.

But i have read if you get up from a deep sleep.

on a certain rem cycle.. you will be tired the whole day.

WE sleep in cycles.. so being waken from a sound deep sleep.

you will be more tired the whole day. so ive heard.

BEst if your coming out of a deep sleep naturally.

then you wake on the right cycle.

rh

>

> whats about that?

> sometime im in some sort of low energy for no apparent reason, people

> say to me " you look exhaustted/depressed/whatever " , and i feel it..

> although i had a goodnight sleep.. it's as if i havn't quite yet woke

> up totally and it's like that all day, im not very nice, not that

> tuned or energetic, feel like im on some sort of autopilot.. there's

> is somewhat of suffering in it.. havn't quite yet figured this out yet.

> the thing is that many times it is with no apparent reason, and dont

> have any story to explain it .. i think maybe it's because of the

> girl, or lack of sleep, or that i havn't had any breakfast yet .. but

> none of them sounds very justified for that.. so i dont know why that

> is.. is it because of thoughts?

> and in that state im not very focused so i can't see very clearly

> thoughts.. it's as if im still dreaming, kind of a dissconnection from

> reality..

> i'd love to hear your thoughts about that one.

> thanks.

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> probably could be a lot of factors.. so i dont know.

> But i have read if you get up from a deep sleep.

> on a certain rem cycle.. you will be tired the whole day.

>

> WE sleep in cycles.. so being waken from a sound deep sleep.

> you will be more tired the whole day. so ive heard.

>

> BEst if your coming out of a deep sleep naturally.

> then you wake on the right cycle.

>

> rh

And how it as anything to do with the work?

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-it doesnt but facy asked why he is so tired..

so i was answering his question.

just a factor... rh

-- In Loving-what-is , " Tami " wrote:

>

> > probably could be a lot of factors.. so i dont know.

> > But i have read if you get up from a deep sleep.

> > on a certain rem cycle.. you will be tired the whole day.

> >

> > WE sleep in cycles.. so being waken from a sound deep sleep.

> > you will be more tired the whole day. so ive heard.

> >

> > BEst if your coming out of a deep sleep naturally.

> > then you wake on the right cycle.

> >

> > rh

>

> And how it as anything to do with the work?

>

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ok..

then you should know, i always wake up naturally.. it's not that.

> >

> > > probably could be a lot of factors.. so i dont know.

> > > But i have read if you get up from a deep sleep.

> > > on a certain rem cycle.. you will be tired the whole day.

> > >

> > > WE sleep in cycles.. so being waken from a sound deep sleep.

> > > you will be more tired the whole day. so ive heard.

> > >

> > > BEst if your coming out of a deep sleep naturally.

> > > then you wake on the right cycle.

> > >

> > > rh

> >

> > And how it as anything to do with the work?

> >

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> > > probably could be a lot of factors.. so i dont know.

> > > But i have read if you get up from a deep sleep.

> > > on a certain rem cycle.. you will be tired the whole day.

> > >

> > > WE sleep in cycles.. so being waken from a sound deep sleep.

> > > you will be more tired the whole day. so ive heard.

> > >

> > > BEst if your coming out of a deep sleep naturally.

> > > then you wake on the right cycle.

> > >

> > > rh

> >

> > And how it as anything to do with the work?

> >

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Facy,

Rather than wondering why you are tired, a more " work-like " approach

could be to see if you have any beliefs about being tired - that you

shouldn't be, etc, etc.

In my own experience there is nothing more tiring than believing that

I / life should be different than it is in the moment.

Even the belief " I am tired " can be inquired into - you never know

what you might find until you take a look.

With love,

Jon

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" rh should not post what i consider to be off topic messages! "

 

is it true?

Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really love. It

will not lead you astray.

Rumi

Subject: Re: tiredness

To: Loving-what-is

Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 11:48 AM

> >

> > > probably could be a lot of factors.. so i dont know.

> > > But i have read if you get up from a deep sleep.

> > > on a certain rem cycle.. you will be tired the whole day.

> > >

> > > WE sleep in cycles.. so being waken from a sound deep sleep.

> > > you will be more tired the whole day. so ive heard.

> > >

> > > BEst if your coming out of a deep sleep naturally.

> > > then you wake on the right cycle.

> > >

> > > rh

> >

> > And how it as anything to do with the work?

> >

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> " rh should not post what i consider to be off topic messages! "

>

> is it true?

I dont know, YET

I asked her,

lets see how she respond to my request

I am waiting to see if it is true :-)

> Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really

love. It will not lead you astray.

> Rumi

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what do you mean you don't know yet? :-)

of course rh should have posted what you consider to be off topic

messages - she did, that's reality.

whether she does or not in the future, that's a completely different

issue. of course, it will always be your definition of off-topic,

rather than rh's.

two ways to make a request - one with stress, one without.

with love,

Jon

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>

> > " rh should not post what i consider to be off topic messages! "

> >

> > is it true?

>

> I dont know, YET

>

> I asked her,

> lets see how she respond to my request

>

> I am waiting to see if it is true :-)

>

>

>

>

> > Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really

> love. It will not lead you astray.

> > Rumi

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> two ways to make a request - one with stress, one without.

" There are 2 ways to live your life:

One is stress out and one is not.

One hurts, one doesn't.

either way you are living it " . (BK)

Please dont offer me the work

(Is it true), unless I ask you.

It seem not kind, to me

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hi tami,

do you mean in my last message? if so, i didn't offer the work, i

simply stated things as i see them.

if that seems unkind, there is not much i can do about that, except be

true to myself and inquire if i feel stress or dis-ease.

with love and thanks,

jon

>

> > two ways to make a request - one with stress, one without.

>

>

>

> " There are 2 ways to live your life:

>

> One is stress out and one is not.

> One hurts, one doesn't.

> either way you are living it " . (BK)

>

>

> Please dont offer me the work

> (Is it true), unless I ask you.

>

> It seem not kind, to me

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Here we go again. The point of the board is to advocate the Work and to

facilitate its use to assist others. So if Jon suggests it to someone (including

you Tami) that's completely appropriate. If you don't want to have that

suggestion made to you, go elsewhere.

Vivian

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> two ways to make a request - one with stress, one without.

" There are 2 ways to live your life:

One is stress out and one is not.

One hurts, one doesn't.

either way you are living it " . (BK)

Please dont offer me the work

(Is it true), unless I ask you.

It seem not kind, to me

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Thanks Vivian,

I want to be clear that I didn't suggest that Tami should do the work.

I'm always happy to suggest things that people can do the work on if

they feel true to them and they want to inquire. And if people don't

want to, that usually works for me - and when I believe anyone else

should do the work, I check that out find out that it's my turn - the

work can be annoying like that! :-)

I think this series of postings is a good example of the kind of

things that can come up in a group and, for me, it's about checking

out whether i feel stress or not - then I can either inquire or not.

if anyone is feeling stress around these postings, or believing that

someone else in the group should do the work, it could be time to

uncover any stressful beliefs and inquire.

with love and thanks,

jon

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> Here we go again. The point of the board is to advocate the Work

and to facilitate its use to assist others. So if Jon suggests it to

someone (including you Tami) that's completely appropriate. If you

don't want to have that suggestion made to you, go elsewhere.

>

> Vivian

I am here to stay, Vivian

I liked you better V,

when you blocked my mails

from your mail box

that way I didn't had to face your

attacks at me

can you block me again?

T

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Sorry, no longer have the ability to do so. You're stuck with me reading your

emails to this grp and commenting on some of them.

Vivian

I noticed you didn't deal with my comments at all.

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> Here we go again. The point of the board is to advocate the Work

and to facilitate its use to assist others. So if Jon suggests it to

someone (including you Tami) that's completely appropriate. If you

don't want to have that suggestion made to you, go elsewhere.

>

> Vivian

I am here to stay, Vivian

I liked you better V,

when you blocked my mails

from your mail box

that way I didn't had to face your

attacks at me

can you block me again?

T

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> Sorry, no longer have the ability to do so. You're stuck with me

reading your emails to this grp and commenting on some of them.

Why not, what have changed?

I like me all of a sadden?

it feels kind to you to attack?

> Vivian

>

> I noticed you didn't deal with my comments at all.

That is not for me to deal

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> > Sorry, no longer have the ability to do so. You're stuck with me

> reading your emails to this grp and commenting on some of them.

>

> Why not, what have changed?

> I like me all of a sadden?

ooops, I meant *you*

I wonder why I made this spelling mistake

> it feels kind to you to attack?

>

> > Vivian

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Tami,

You seem to be focused on this " kind " thing at the moment.

Are there any beliefs about me, Vivian or anyone else that you want to

share?

With love and thanks,

Jon

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